▶ 0:04:45Good committee will come to order. Objection! The declare ry time today. The rules. Committee is convening to consider h.r. 3e 3333, the invest that would end of 1940.
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▶ 0:06:13Tricity is one of the most pressing issues fact, the purpof this bill is similar. Clarity to an existing state. What reliable electricity generators? It's time the state return utility and dispatch ability goals so that electricity that is as reliable as it is. 36.
▶ 0:06:40The electric supply chain act, have . Energy to prepare, periodic, assess reports on the supply chain for the generation of this at calibrates the focus and attention of the study, understand and face the challenges, supply chain.
▶ 0:07:08If we ignore the difference with securing america's. Electric supply chain, a whole host of consequences. Planning and positive steps being made to secure for the future, we can maintain a supply of electricity that all americans can benefit from.
▶ 0:07:333668 the improving interagency coordination for pipeline reviews act for reviewg certain author. Section three of the natural gas act in all beco. The electric power. System, ensuring the.
▶ 0:07:56Remains paramount to the overall reliable energy infrastructure. Unfortunately, I was. Poorly equipped to meet the needs of flagship. No agency has the exploit natural gas system reliability bring about that. Clarity and ensure agency.
▶ 0:08:20A streamlined regulatory process devised a review process all necessary. The pipeline network that meets the people and when the energy race of the future, as. 1071 should act.
▶ 0:08:37For fiscal year 20 2526, ndaa is part of investment in america's national defense and its pivotal roles to ensure that our nation's been the strongest in the world. This legislation, point 8% pay raise for all service member parts.
▶ 0:09:05Of 15 separate issued by president trump and codifies the. Proposals requested by the no. Legislation is perfect, I would have written, same time, it's critical so that ourn continue to build fighting force to deter.
▶ 0:09:32We havf legislation and our democrat colleagues, I hope support them with that ranking member, Mr. mcgovern, for any comments he wishes. >> um, and um, so this is most that, uh, don't really.
▶ 0:09:55Uh, we have a bill about pipeline and fail to pass into law for certain. We have a bill requires the secretary of energy to do without legislation. We have. To big polluters and oil giants, and we have a bipartisan bills that coe floor just my question is, we're, uh.
▶ 0:10:25We're weeks away from going over a health. We're a month another government shutdown. Neither of those issues. Instead, we're wasting time through the. We'ree corporate bills that have big, important sounding. Title, really do much of anything. Are we? Speak, madam chair? I mean, do you know if will.
▶ 0:10:53Rumors than leadership might send health insurance for next, and others are preparing to see their cost. The president is tol them and tell him, work congress to actually do something affordable.
▶ 0:11:17We've been pushing and you know, we've been begging, yet we're here in the rules committee, frankly, are not even anybody's. Lives.
▶ 0:11:33I'd also just like to know how is on our agend the you know, gives $8 billion more to secretary of war.
▶ 0:11:47Hegseth asked all the talk to government efficiency after abot that gives nearly a never passen audit and efficiency at the pentagon?
▶ 0:12:07Uh getting more money for I guess it's okay for republicans to cut spend like, no matter what the pen our defense needs are, even if the pentagon says spend now, $8 billion might sound farm concerned, it's a lot of money d start. It could feed millionaires.
▶ 0:12:35You know, as we gather here today of citizens who are hungry, who are food insecure of america, the rt country, um, and we're not doing anything about it. We're making it worse insisting on giving the pentagon money for things that we do need this about a. Proviss or lack thereof.
▶ 0:13:04We madam speaker, again, I bills, but at the center of affordability to for health care while cutting and. With two weeks of session left, apparently it is just not an issue urgency. And with that, yield back my time.
▶ 0:13:32>> mcgovern prepared statements that our witnesses may have in the. I now welcome our first bond. Rogers and ranking member smith services. Your full statement will be submitted for that. Summarize your statement in testimony. Thank you.
▶ 0:13:57>> thank ranking member mcgovern, uh, I want your staff. They've been very helpful in this final passage. And I, uh, friend and partner, adam smith, the chairman, rick wicker, and ranking member reed.
▶ 0:14:15Very well together in a bipartisan, bicameral of that, um, because, uh, a lot efg position process, uh, which is s of reforms to first eliminate regulatory burdens and put.
▶ 0:14:40In place a system that the warfighter at the speed and scale a. Long way toward ensuring our warfighters are the most capable and it. I also want to highlight our continued life of our service members and their families. This raise for all of our service members.
▶ 0:15:05It all billion dollars new housd dining facilities, childcare facilities and schools health services remain focused. Uh also in the bill especially china.
▶ 0:15:23This is a strong problem warfigl build a we need to deter our adversaries and ensure peace through us to vote for yield back my time very much, mister rogers, ranking member I. Thank you, madam chair. >> I want to echo the chairman's compliments. Work with very difficult process and. Months.
▶ 0:15:49But even as we prepare this, you have a with yo get the product. Um, so I want to really thank mike rogers for . Uh, and we worked with that. Bipartisan, bicameral lot of arguments throughout . Some of it came out the way it is the nature of the legislative process.
▶ 0:16:17Really took lead in making sure that everybody was included. Appreciate that. I think it bodes well for the continuing to be, uh, a bipartisan tour that we oversige department of defense and. That's great.
▶ 0:16:37And then what he said about the bill again, I really want to compliment spente last two years doing capstone acquisition reform, didn't just sort of pull a few ideas that field hearings, we had constant conversation, think. Tanks. We brought in pentagon leadership to try.
▶ 0:16:57And most importantly, it is very pentagon towards being l does that to pass it. Um Mr. chairman also noted we can, uh, started earnest last year on quality of life raise, with other supports. There are some outside committee bills that the outside committee that I think also important.
▶ 0:17:25Uh, very reauthorization process. Um, we also. Included a bill that was theirs as well, having to do with counter uas. A major problem country, uh, that we are not defend ourselves against. Drones and a variety of different ways expand.
▶ 0:17:49And thens blind done, uh, this that is reasserts some of the authority of whether you're republican or democrat. You know, I think you one, we appeal to a, um, 1 in 2000. Uh two that have been on one time o authority on limiting the president's ability to draw.
▶ 0:18:19We . Support ukraine with 400 million in. I that program usaiu know, so it shows that support and says that you also fence soe treasury secretary.
▶ 0:18:37Defense until he complies with the and s over basic oversight, uh, regardless of how uses we are supposed to be a co-equal branch, there is items in there that do that as well trying to undermine the executive legislae
▶ 0:19:09Branch. I think that's put togea great package. Uh craw about it is bill dunn did out of the house, um, r department of defense employees . I still give order illegal. And the courts will take something I think the legislative branch should have done. The employees that we had jurisdiction over with that I.
▶ 0:19:40>> um, thank you questions until. Miss fishback are recognized. You >> thank you both for being here. Um and I will. Just say, I appreciate the fact that Mr. smith was bipartisanship and I am happy about quality of life testing for our service members in.
▶ 0:20:07And it, um, and usually I'm when I'm not complimenting them on their, on their okay. >> but but sincerely I at the oversight okay, okay.
▶ 0:20:23Uh, that's no I'm but but increased oversight from the congressional branch I think is really as we look at kind of the new on in these departments, this is important. >> and so just, either of you, um, just give us some ideas on how it really, bus create areas.
▶ 0:20:53And so someone if someone wants to understanding is there was there was potential effort to put. Into that for rural area wrong. >> oh I don't remember. >> okay. >> all right then guess maybe maybe that's but but sincerely.
▶ 0:21:15Um I do bipartisan and that um, and that there is a lot of I support the bill and I yield back mcgovern, your record. Well, thank you.
▶ 0:21:29>> and year, your, uh, both of you and your leadership and the committee, , uh, chairman rogers, uh, questions about two provisions that were left out of understang that the house passed version of the protecting the collective bargaining rights of civilians. That language is not in this version. So can you explain how and why I moved it.
▶ 0:22:00>> uh, we can, with the leadership and they could reach consensus. They could reach consensus for a leadership >> and what was the issue of order? >> collective bargaining for all federal employees, not just dod . Um leadership in the house supported.
▶ 0:22:28He the white house that made it this, uh, but ultimately, republican leadership decided that they didn't want to. >> so when amongst the republican leadership on this ask you anotr question. Um both. The house and senate versions of the language for service members to access.
▶ 0:22:56I've was in both the and senate version. Both chambers voted for bills with that provision. Yet somehow also stripped out. And then, um, when there were when you have a person it would seem that there's not I don't cd be. So who who made that. Call to remove that provision, if I may?
▶ 0:23:25Way this works is this, mike. And I like, um, you know, we were each our consensus. Um, and leadership if your you'e probably familiar with that concept. >> um,. These things pass with them in the majority. To pf one chamber or thing to law. Ths all kinds of politics that goes into that.
▶ 0:23:53>> it was in both bills understood bills. >> but just passing it even even if each chamber into the into lu get to the point where it in ri, and have concerns different directions, if we all understand, is there's less forces. That they want to put in there about protecting us forever. Um that is all.
▶ 0:24:19Um, so you've got a lot of republicans who all that other said, I can't support it unless it. So it was a clash within that they. Could not resolve. As far as I know but the republicans are split on the issue and they chose not to.
▶ 0:24:43>> and I and I that fight, I don't didn't have it, that the committee level or we had the fight at that all thing that we deal with it. >> leadership takes it over, ma. >> and that's very sorry, that'.
▶ 0:25:09Had bill passed and there's this delicate little people don't people have a lot of different reasons for s we put this packet, enough passn , we got a lot of democrats who are this bill for a variety, lose a swath of republicans over the pass I get it. >> but I kind of.
▶ 0:25:36And not just I'm not just talking about is that when both chambers act and language that you know, that language isn't sacrificed, leadership has concerns. I mean, I again, I you know, I think you're giving me an answer.
▶ 0:25:56It's just one from where I said, um, committee, as house, s that, hey, the way this place works is that if there's a difference between members, you negotiate them. But when they're the same. But in any. Event, that's not the case. But I appreciate your work in it., Mr. >> Mr. scott. >> thank you, chair.
▶ 0:26:26Um it's a similar concern. And that I do that if the house and the senate language is samee should be. Respect for that. And I'm I'm going to be on the losing end that.
▶ 0:26:48But it's the same then I'm, I'm concerned that we're setting a precedent of regarding if. If I could possibly say there is respect for that.
▶ 0:27:08>> and it's a big part, sure evg understands something that jeopardize bill passes, none of these issues stand on their own who support that but oppose the bill still able to cobble together a majority peop. I, politics, you guys, we all agree. You guys st.
▶ 0:27:39No. At the end of the day, you get pieces have a majority. Ultimately passes and you're squeezing a balloon and so if you add something in that now when you package contrg it and also I'm not. Clairvoyant, I don't know if we've been enough, but we got to make there was pre republican side out.
▶ 0:28:08And that other issue that it was I, I understand that and I respect our committee you. >> I think I think the two job g together through through extremely, extremely important e branch are being pushed around on in a lot of cases, members.
▶ 0:28:37And if the housn place for that, the senate language match will say e was similar or if it was exact, but certainly it's the exact
▶ 0:29:07Um, for the sake of the democracy, I the committee process needs to be respected. Um, I want you do an exceptionally good job working together, making decisions based motion. Uh, I appreciate the committee. >> appreciate the leadership of both of you, bill. Forward tg it on the floor of ask Mr.
▶ 0:29:36Rogers anything you'd know thery raise for the troops. Uh, I know they'll appreciate it. And thaty ten years to field a pistol that was roasted sporting goods stores. Um >> thank you, Mr. neguse.
▶ 0:30:01You're recognized >> thank you, madam Mr. chairman, you don't have any recollection of this, but there's this 15 years that I consider to be, um, kind of every year by policy. Uh, in.
▶ 0:30:28A, rosendale language. Um and it got stripped report. Do you have collection? Was there, senator? It was just one of those things. Committee said it wasn't important the big blue. >> yeah. Because as.
▶ 0:30:53You know, I don't remember as lots of big in here. >> but to me. As I as permitting, although it's never.
▶ 0:31:05American citizens have never voted thinkd today one time that asked me to, but I've never voted for an ende language in there, but american citizens from detention by the.e voting no on the rule because I think it's something that needs to be brought to the floor on td
▶ 0:31:37I just want you to know, it's I've had since I first got here and read the bill. Yep this conn before. >> and the issue is fundamentally changes the constitution by own citizens are not subject to that permanent detention say citizens, and that applies to people in the we say it for thit .
▶ 0:32:03>> I have all other language as . Well to the committee, and the committee has I understand I'm caught between a rock and. My language. Uh actually deal with just that doesn't apply. But want to. Citizens.
▶ 0:32:24Uh and get the langua, hopefully someday we'll get a problem fixed and has abused ite point, if you leave a door and somebody some they walk want to close that door. So I yield back. >> Mr. griffith right. Nice. Good afternoon, madam chair cha. >> nice to see you back were heu were not in agreement. We did not think ndaa.
▶ 0:32:52And nice to seeu back at all, but several, most egregious provisions were really the supp. As uh, my colleague. Uh, recognized for me. Uh, their pay. But also indeed the access . To health care.
▶ 0:33:20I represent aa rural area. So many of our bases are in rural areas, and them, uh, the health care they deserve, uh, you, little things that people might not pay between the reimbursement rate so they can get to those special we incorporated shannon's innovative circuit rider provision where they, specialisn
▶ 0:33:57On health care really important to me. Uh, what worlds members should get that health care and, chairman, have three kids. Uh yeah. Uh, I always say that those three having those three kids, it's. The most impactful, wonderful thing. I'm assuming same. And.
▶ 0:34:22O probably know how struggle, um, with babies one to get pregnant and hold that perry just happened. They break our hearts, you people who struggle . I do not, uh.
▶ 0:34:45I it's really hard. To fathom that real the ivf coverage takes weeks. Service members are. Not going to get the kind of care you want .
▶ 0:35:10Uh, and sacrificing for this country and I, I just why we couldn't. Have fought for that harder. Mr. chairman, I know, um , tried to explain. Things. Uh, Mr. chair, people's desires to have family.
▶ 0:35:33Good that what have fought a little harder provision the house decided by leadership.
▶ 0:35:49>> this was not decided by the not about me or adam fighting, but this problem because you know, he's the ivf president who as any good if he wouldn't have come and fought because it doesn't put social or and social, if you're not going to actually turn it into legislation. >> and so many.
▶ 0:36:17Of your members, so many of our members. Only wai wanted to move on of, um, and, and thank you both for, uh, making. Reassertion of this .
▶ 0:36:44And my concern worried about the action. Uh, and because it's not just against fairness and to men wrath after what was still strike first place.
▶ 0:37:12Strongest military and two men clinging to iraq would be a key member. Smith I mean, what are your concerns with these strikes and the, um, that we're seeing ? >> they were clipped of capsized boat clinging to a boat . They were cleaned. Their had r caught on and flipped over.
▶ 0:37:40Look, I'm, um, about the lack of, uh, in the last or two, thanks to the always loved to denigrate actually release. It has forced the pentagon and the white talk bit. We did have a briefing from admiral bradley next week, uh, to reach the full committee stations with others around southern command.
▶ 0:38:08So, and my coo vacation just doesn't. And it ie president. And I want take a moment if I could do back when we really got started on this going osama bin laden and al sense.
▶ 0:38:32You know, osama bin laden and plotting to kill as many americans as lot of people supp, not just in afghanistan, but ast the time, it takes where these e and stop them before effort metastasized. As if osama bin laden is coming at us.
▶ 0:39:00Well, then we, aqap as they were called, volume. We goe sort of extended the net kill ue is and even if you accept of what we're doing with these 24 k about how dramatic spans the power president.
▶ 0:39:30We are now saying anyone who is trafficking in narcotic, which is the deadly piece, but cocaine as well, not from cocaine, but statistically, I think it's smaller than. Fentanyl. And what about marijuana? Fentanyl into marijuana. And sadly, there are a lot of people who thought drug that had fentanyl attached to it that killed him. All right.
▶ 0:39:56So t network, then you exactly the same as osama those planes those buildings. How. People are now subject process or probable cause that dramatic and absolute minimum lot to approval because, say, wr
▶ 0:40:29War congress came together. We passed the 2001 gave that. Authority no specific address and. Now you want a forever war. You're going to fight these terrorist groups until the deadly flow of narcotics into the us. That's give the militarr to jury and executioner for this many people. Such an executive power.
▶ 0:40:59I don't think we should d oversight to do this. They're, . >> thank you. Right. So point out the hypocrisy of this administration. He has pardoned over 100 people of drug crimes during his time in of the recent pardon. Uh. For drugs brought into the united.
▶ 0:41:34And there was conviction and there was there wasn't a strike on the. Ocean. We had the proof for the president trump pardoned, convicted.
▶ 0:41:53Of 400 ton in chicago, $100 million of drugs trafficked and. Shakir so if you're going to talk about traffickers, stop pardoning who have been. Convicted endless.
▶ 0:42:17Wt parole, I would say we should never kind of war. >> I personally to include ross crypto silk road guy.
▶ 0:42:37Who was convicted of dollars in drug money for precisely these same by the president, which raises one other trouble. Is this about stopping dress? You know, to your point, all the people have been pardoned.
▶ 0:42:57Incod if it's not about that, well, what the national security strategy that was it se about dominate the. Western hemisphere. He's targeting venezuela and leads us in to more conflicts and fundamentally . Incorrect foreign policy.
▶ 0:43:23I don't think the unites should bo dominate any hemisphere, be who we are. We're supposed to be presiding over a rule based benefit. Us certainly. But to benefit others. One who is concerned about interventionism. You know, be concerned. About that point, too. Regime change in venezuela. Learned our lessons in the last 25 years.
▶ 0:43:53And at the the rhetore president. Certainly. So if we e are. Two big issues that I think all should be concerned about and be aggressively ex. You char working to get out more. Bradley got a brief got another one next week. But I think you'd be, uh, thank you for that.
▶ 0:44:20>> and I there is the issue of, uh, whether the,,e united. States out of foreign wars, the, uh, the recent strategic report. And in these actions in opec. Thank you. >> Mr. leger. >> fernand., you're recognized. >> thank you for coming.
▶ 0:44:51>> and it's been a good hearing anywhere in this country, particularly in south carolina. >> when get your financial house in order? When is up ndaa, it has some. $8 billion above what president house passed. Well, explain. To me where we are, what continue this . >> sure.
▶ 0:45:21Chairman supports a larger defense budget. Authorizing bill had 32 billiont aid. And if it makes you feel any this, uh, we're ultimately. Going to set the top dollar is going to be the appropriations negotiations. I was just reading something as I was waiting some sort agreement on a top line for defense. I would support budget.
▶ 0:45:49Now, one thing I yeah, yeah, we just context. I just I didn't want to misrepresent you. Um yeah. There we go. So um, say this and something that people should, should be as authorizers sort of put that, you know, um, 8 billion plus that came where the appropriators wind up. Um, we want to that.
▶ 0:46:17We can get after that in the appropriation ought to be presit much out of your hands, I get that, but you know, experts or have now, I think come around it's we're not the congress. To get to handle this. >> uh, into on a diet.
▶ 0:46:40Uh, it's going to they stop buying to bed stop for this country to. So y'all. To be publicized pretty.
▶ 0:46:57Broadly because it stops and I get appropriators, I get 8 billion above what the president was at one. Is it one area that took up in your opinion, across the board? >> senate wanted 30 billion. This is where the leadership basically landed.
▶ 0:47:24We both, uh, and we shift within the not understanding. The 30 I, I. Was going to say someone who falls faith in. >> I mean I don't have any control house member. I get goih and continue ndaa farm bills and ornaments everywhere.
▶ 0:47:53And it's christmas time. They would farm, I mentioned that, uh, allowing, sports was out of anti-lgbtq. Was lefty invert that the beam on trans that one was petty.
▶ 0:48:24>> that's in the bill. The rest not in the bill. The other portions areas. >> okay. It's me. Is in the is in the bill or not yet. >> in the bill okay. >> the reason why, I lost out that's not entirely. True. >> you lost.
▶ 0:48:48No, I'm not to thar participate in women's sports. I am. Not unsympathetic to that idea. And it's something I think iwe should. And the ncaa passed that rule.
▶ 0:49:06It's you know, I have the rule, but I don't see it necessary for us or legislative branch to impose a, you know, league, you know do understand since this that has been unfair. Fair to competence league deal with. >> but you work this. Uh, I yield back to you.
▶ 0:49:37>> recognized. >> thank you. Madam chair. The. Committee for working to get this package across of the . I especially want to thank chairman roy closely with to enn navy installation nuclear energy . >> so this provision supports the creation of a facilitate the deployment of small modular nuclear reactors at. Our navy installations.
▶ 0:50:06Meeting and demands of us military secure and. Decreasing dependance on civilian and are thankful for your partnership, Mr. chairman and prioritizing this hearing this our military. So I want to thank yos , uh, pay raise. For our service members. It borders and it saves taxpayers nearly.
▶ 0:50:35Mister chairman, chairman rogers, if you could all going to improve d troops who living last year we a huge leap. >> but we that it.
▶ 0:50:56So you know,n to pay last year we did come in behind a them we give tm bonuses. Uh, pays and allowances.
▶ 0:51:09We increase their eligible needs allowance to supplement low a $1.5 billion more on barracks and too try to make sure these familiese military, because truth is, then that, what we did last year was a huge leap come back and layer
▶ 0:51:43More on it. We did this year, one that we prohibited raising the number of physicians, physicians, nurses did that. Health care is a aspect of of lo be attentive to. >> well, I very much. Thank you both for caring about and, um, appreciate your work on this. I. >> thank you.
▶ 0:52:09And I can hear I'm only going to make a comment that I, um, with the committee on trump acquisition and, uh, to see and as somebody else said, it's taken way. We're where we ought bringing d, and, um, material.
▶ 0:52:37Um and saving millions and billions. I thank , um, I see no one, um, seeking to ask a question. So, uh. You're dismissed. Thank you.
▶ 0:52:58And welcome our second panel. And representative castor commerce. Your full statement will be we r statement in five minutes.
▶ 0:53:23I wey .
▶ 0:54:02>> oh, there we go. >> very federal policies have driven the premature retirement power intensified a reliable prices. Across the nation. Grid I have repeatedly told the energy and commerce dee weather events are at risk of blackouts and brownouts.
▶ 0:54:31Witnesses in recent years to add to the issues. One is the unprecedented growth manufactury and. The second is reduced supply due to constraints that deliver produce more energy. Low generation, growing demand and. Tight supply, and cannot experience a electricity prices.
▶ 0:55:03The legislation today takes practical factors behind. This affordability and reliability. State policies that limit reliable generate costs in energy supply chain can permit reviews for pipeline infrastructure that our generation, h.r. 3006 20 reliability and affordability act, colorado's.
▶ 0:55:31Eighth district, asks the affordabilitg generation electric utilities undergo an and investments and. New generation and transmission to meet and meet responsibility for providing power. States impe energy, adding process that effectively require baseload power.
▶ 0:55:59Plants with intermittent power. While there is. A role for a diverse and the policies favoring wind and solar have become widely true to energy sources needed to keep the. We need to firm, affordable. Bill requires statio consider, and let me emphasize that implementing.
▶ 0:56:27Requirements for utilities to have strong, reliable, dispatchable energy sources nuclear, coal, and hydropower over a ten year place is. Accountability on states to end support for people to on. Second 3638.
▶ 0:56:46The electriy chain act supply chain constraints that make building new decisions slow and expensive. It would of trends, risk and demand for the components, generation and transmission. This includes some materials and components from china and other.
▶ 0:57:15It at the shortages that have made components more analysis that will. Help us address these shortages, bringing down costs and supply security up improviny coordination act, sponsored by the gentleman from north carolina, makes the federal permitting for nat in pipelines more timely and efficient.
▶ 0:57:39We eg lead requiring schedules, simultaneous reviews. Disputes n aid, streamline water quality reviews by moving that response work instead of applicant being responsible to receive 40m the state through this, ferc
▶ 0:58:10Would incorporate that in the. This legislation maintains the state's authority and remedy legitimate water quality concerns. Predictability of process ferc would still proposed by involved in the process for compliance with the underlying staffing pipeline.
▶ 0:58:31Capacity increases, supply of natural gas with more supply, there will be lower energy costs electric generation comes a key component keeping the lights on. We want capacity to transport it and this installation of these three bills deserves strong. Thank you. Thank you.
▶ 0:59:01>> representative castor. >> your recognized thank, for to be here to testify come at a time when american dealing with electric bills of electricity prices ared it in in north carolina upset I know you're too in florida, the facilities.
▶ 0:59:30Have increases and last month they lt a $7 rate hike. Uh, so that if you're an fpl customer, comparing your bill in of 2020 to what pay in will be over $500 more. I was folks d they were burning their electric bill.
▶ 0:59:55They are is going on and e looking to congress, uh, for solutions. They want us to work together unfortunately, what's taking usn the right direction. If you bigg . Take away, uh, cleaner, cheaper sources, credits.
▶ 1:00:19Uh, they estimate that that's energy bills by you add in the arbitrary tariffs on, but it's , wires for the electric. Um um, that's cutting trump administration came in and can't take, cheaper headed approach to, uh. Projects that's raised bills.
▶ 1:00:53Uh so it's adding up levels arey district alone, 50,000 people are facing. We won't won't comee table on tax for health. Coverage.
▶ 1:01:10Then when you add on , uh, with sand and they so when k these three things before us today, I recommend that you do not move and commerce committee to go back to the drawing together to find some bipartisan, uh, solution on permitting and, and helping people to cost.
▶ 1:01:35So the bill, specifically the first one, the pipelines review, 366, eight, because it strips states of the ability to enforce their clean energy when it comes to would ge that power to ferc. Uh ferc is y submitted they do not have the personnel or expertise.
▶ 1:02:01This is not area don't know where to start a clean water permitting. So thatd cost. That's increased time. And . Do the opposite of what they intend. Six. Electric supply chain, the of ey deficiencies.
▶ 1:02:23I think I have supported this bill, this n worthwhile in the intervening year or so under elon musk and doge, they have taken a hatchett of energy. There is no one to do the worst when, uh, the secretary and other this came before.
▶ 1:02:51The energy and commerce committee, who this work they could not even answer that question. There is no reason for the congress to add more energy without any work could be done. Uh, they have for 3500 experts and public of energy.
▶ 1:03:17Uh, they deleted the off energye department. Um the next. Well, 36, 28 state the. Public utility regulatory policies act, dirty s . For energy. It is a. Know bet.
▶ 1:03:50On their energy resource makes n georgia. Um so now you're saying a don't look at escalating energy demand it put your fingee cleaner, cheaper source and storage, they don't. Get.
▶ 1:04:21Instead, oil and gas companies get the it's going to be as well at a time when for better will lead to higher prices. Please do not I time very again defer this back . Thank you, Mr.. To h.r. 3668.
▶ 1:04:48>> distracts the approach to quote cooperative federal take states ability to enforce their own clean water it gives it to ferc. Uh, I thought. Republicans were supposed to be in so what gives you? >> well, for first, this exempts projects from abiding by the clean running federal authorization. And we're going to things done.
▶ 1:05:17We can't have situations in a pipeline across you know, there and all it stopped by these doing it. It mt they might say we. They're only going to favor a little concern. But again, you're looking at. You have to go through the entire process.
▶ 1:05:42S agent currently. And it can the project related by review under the fur compliance. So there's nothing out there that's going to say process , they are going to be part of the what the states will be out of luck.
▶ 1:06:11>> everything's consideration. Uh, as. We're with ferc. And because again, we've got to be of the country that aren't having the ability reported earlier this fall that the new g that they were concerned that p, why were fall? Because they?
▶ 1:06:34The their from overseas. They're not utilized to say thaw years work pipeline where ferc didn't care through farms that basically obliterated the farms, went.
▶ 1:07:00Through, you know, sensitive areas in terms of the environment where, I mean, it's available. Didn't seem to care.I mean, to prevail the day. But that experience that, uh, that ferc and this was a democratic.
▶ 1:07:19Administration, ferc doesn't have the answers in ferc certainly communities as well as bills do a single now and they will do the opposite? >> yes. I I don't know what you're hearing back, but , what really, really is an issue isn't a con job. >> it's real.
▶ 1:07:46You know, that's why I began my opening by trying to address this, uh, the health care, their their bills go through the roof, and we could do something, uh, if republicans have a better plan. I mean, forn it is. But people are strapped.
▶ 1:08:10I mean, I the high cost of impact on on prices, um, the. Idea that, you know, none of these bills will price this seems of like we're tone deaf. Uh, let me ask you, miss castro, republicans weak, um, building block for meaningful bipartisan permit.
▶ 1:08:42>> unless you mean by permitting, they're permitting . >> that's how I, I, uh, I'll just close by the issue affordability is real. >> uh, town halls. If you, you know, you know, you have to hear from your constituents.
▶ 1:09:02The, um , and, by the way, these are people who are to two jobs or three jobs just trying to afford groceries and help to college education. Um that that's what we should be stuff that really will address the cost of. Appreciate both of you here and I'll yield back just got you recognized. >> I don't have any questions.
▶ 1:09:35>> mister. >> thank, madam chair. Uh, good evening appreciate both ofu being here regarding these three bills. I want to start. For 3638. The bill is called the electric supply chain. This is . Okay. >> I want to make sure I'm understanding this correctly.
▶ 1:10:02>> so the would require the department periodic studies and on the electric supply chain, is that a fair? Okay. And I an energy supply chains would do this study or it would.
▶ 1:10:27Be through, uh, a doe ens energy supply. Chains. >> that would be the office thaa fair assumption. >> uh, one thing. I mean, it seems. Pretty straightforward. >> your bill is touching.
▶ 1:10:51The bill is asking for the department of energy on supply chains. And so your manufacturing and energy supply chains would is that not a wellt why don't the hesitation about answering that question is because you're probably that administration eliminated bringing
▶ 1:11:23>> two weeks be doe. As you know. I know people are on the other side are saying they're not out there. Get halfu know, they've done over 50. >> talk to me this walk. Walk me through it. Help me cald the electric supply chain act, imposed.
▶ 1:11:43By your bills for the department of energy on the electric supply chain and metering and electric supply chain in the department of eliminated. It no longer exist in other offices of which offico do the study on of energy? >> this is important. Sure uh, I've been fortunate. To be on this committee for 15 years, th.
▶ 1:12:14I chaired the communications bi, billion dollars and. This is a little off, uh, for. Yeah.. Thes the information out there. Here's a problem. I, we haven'tt there even deploying $1 billion questions.
▶ 1:12:37You have to have there have to, first of all, do you even have the situation, we have to make sure. Absolutely essentd so somebody on the grid. >> sure. Is it your argument. That the office of. Mains of electric supply chains didn't have the.
▶ 1:13:07Expertise to do what you're describing? >> it can do the job is what I'm saying. Got it. Do you can do ti mean, I hear, you're you're you're mustering at least some s pretty, which is that pretty rich for republicans put all effort into legislation.
▶ 1:13:34Putting on electric supply chains while they're literally electric supply chains. >> I think most of doesn't make a lot of sense. I don't know why you would. The bill, ao that because obviously. He's out of energy.
▶ 1:13:53I mean, doj's was mentioned by the articulated a w committee of different federal agencies, including the department of energy, and one was the supply chains. So I know it wasn't a. Question.
▶ 1:14:07I think there should be a rule support e federal government, you should have bill requiring that office to do study that, basic one on e government. I think, uh, prudent for us to say, you know what? To require a non-existent office to do us.
▶ 1:14:34Os that aren't named electric suppy chains is very necessary, I guess maybe a broader question connected to this. Bill didn't.
▶ 1:14:53Require the department of energy change any kind of policy with basically the bill requires the agency to provide committee and to your counterparts in the senate. I am curious, do you know how many your committee has marked up this year event? >> that it's important if we don't have the we are we're looking at meeting.
▶ 1:15:25I give 170. I hear it's more power 100 answers 12 going off line 12 study bill. To be able . All right. >> and. 12 months republicans have been in charge. Awfully lot of. Time study bills. Studying this problem, studying. Little e in my solving the problem or suggesting problem.
▶ 1:15:55I to you, iu know, merits decisive action by this company, you know the variety bills that have introduced, uh, pending the other you're testifying about today unclear to me why studying these issues instead of just, you know, what the problem is. Before, how long is this going to take? >> we can move things along.
▶ 1:16:25But here's the problem. >> we we have a supply. We have a supply shortage. Thank you, Mr. madam chair. Sure. We have a supply chain issue out there a supply chain issue. That grid is reliable out there. We have to make sure that we equipment e don't have it. In fact, I just spoken at.
▶ 1:16:54Noon today with the with these folks out these innovations. So innovations we had. A, uh, four year the groupn squeeze more out of out of what they can make, because grid isn't up to that. The coming out grid. Again, if you.
▶ 1:17:22Don't know what the problem is, you can't o the they're the, the innovators, the entrepreneurs products so they can understand how we can get this great job of describing the problem. >> and by the way, I completion of the problem, my point is that introduced year, it's going to take about of time.
▶ 1:17:51This passes, the house gets over to the the president signs your legislation , directs the non-existent office of electric this consequential issue that you've identified. And they find somebody left these days 2028, if you and I are still getting submitted to us, and then we cat it that's my point.
▶ 1:18:21I'm just I'm not disagreeing. I you about the issues with respect to and reliability and all the rest, and I would agree, uh, assessment as well. Just like to get to the business of e other direction is such a diversion. >> your cost tracker and those are arbitrary. Trump.
▶ 1:18:46That thatd he's already that have demonstrated that the average house a trump care tax of about 1600 places a lot more. So it's the. To know that yes tariffs are an important strate. Arbitrary ones cost of energy.
▶ 1:19:14They're raisingd impacting people's household electric bills. Bills for a big business too. >> I couldn't agree more. Uh, and, you know, I suppose, I'll, uh, perhaps ask you Mr. louder. 3628 similar vein to the questions this is Mr.. Bill. Uh, my, uh, the bill.
▶ 1:19:46Regarding amending the public utility policies act, uh, to add a standard related to generation and for other purposes. Obviously, I want I'mg this right. This wire state public utility.
▶ 1:20:02To adopt the standard that the my opening remarks it's know back to you want to make sure the state's out there are governmen, uh, everything I'm going to apologize right here if you just reconsidered, it's. It's. To pardon me. Uh, yeah. I'm my.
▶ 1:20:30You you're saying legislation says is for it would require. Requirements for utility efficient generation for reliable and dispatchable energy . >> and then you go and it goes down. Okay. >> sorry. Saying I think the word I misheard wass decision for Mr. evans.
▶ 1:21:02>> it is to consider. >> no, let me finish my sentence then. You cas utility regulators to consider the standard. That he proposes in this bill. >> right.. >> yeah.
▶ 1:21:29>> if this is so important, if you feel believe that the standard that Mr. evans has articulated, Mr. evans believes that if the standard that he's t doesn't require regulators to do that. Now, adopt this standard, whether or not this bill irrelevant. So there are regulators in colorado know that this bill exists.
▶ 1:21:59They can consider it doesn't require this becoming law. Or am someth. >> in the past, the they were looking in a lot of states. We're looking at everything, seeing some. Become anti fossil considering all the issues that they.
▶ 1:22:28And so what's happening talk about prices going up. I can tell you what prices. Look at. If you look at the top 12 top new englo what's happening is when states are saying that consider interm, there's no.
▶ 1:22:51Problem with intermittent power for following all the above issue that we came up in the 2008, ask about intert power. Power. What happens when the sun goes down, when they're when the point what happens? >> well, I hear the lights don't go out. You know >> the second source of power. >> I hear it.
▶ 1:23:18If you drive up the cost, we can have a debate. >> then the states to start considering people want to know why their rates are going up, they need to start their own states. >> I will simply I will simply.y questions with respect. Presentation earlier. I appreciate the chairman's indulgence here a lot there and about. Renewable energy.
▶ 1:23:47Um, I'm going to. So we can have, uh, can I finish? All cane about the different sources energy and the efficacy. And, uh, I think it would be. And I certainly would welcome that.
▶ 1:24:14What I'm suggest is that your bill or actually is in your bill , Mr. evans. Absolutely nothing to accomplish or the directive that you see state utility commission adopt as part of their integrated the you know, the various components per this bill doesn't do that. This must.
▶ 1:24:44So you're going to go through a sie regulators are accomplishes nothing. They bills that this committee, the energy and commerce committee, continues committee.
▶ 1:24:59And I disau hear from me and from think, an appetite for us to solve these these meet, in my view, that moment and you're recognized. Greatly. >> let me first, uh, point out that over 80 bills, uh, out of the committee. This year. It's uh, and 12 of them were studies.
▶ 1:25:26Large biln the other side of the aisle didn't. Bill energy and commerce committee that. Uh, you know, all we're doing in studies is they being, uh, assertion to the american y. >> absolutely.
▶ 1:25:54>> and further, I would say 36, 28 if I understood you correctly , bill makes they must consider alternatives instead of only looking or midden renewables of, uh, of solar. Is accurate? >> well, that's correct, because this.
▶ 1:26:15Is that we see some of these public utilities looking at you're looking at just on the green thing and everything, and then so if people ask again, look something . Up, if you're having just one, it's should be looking at everything, not just fact. >> does the. Gentleman agree with me?
▶ 1:26:39Um factor when my colleagues on assessors interest, uh. Towards having an elimination of all it does, the gentleman. Not agree with me, or does he know then candidate barack obama said in an interview various proposals would.
▶ 1:27:02Necessarily skyrocket because it would force costly passing costs on to kansas? Do you, Mr. chairman, and. When, uh, my colleagues come in here from the other side of the aisle, somehow we're addressing the high cost policies, eliminate natural gas. Coal.
▶ 1:27:27And I know a lot of people in coal in my district. But eliminating natural gas, eliminating causing to recognize the advantages of nuclear use, solar wind almost exclusively is of them adopt. Bg that purely just like the.
▶ 1:27:50Policies that we thousand and eight are going to make your may rates skyrocket. Isn't that true? But agree with me uh, part of the issue is that when we have and this is just the incumbent there and you go power and.
▶ 1:28:17That could be nuclear. The natural gas could be something that those are onet are looked at baseload power. You you you have. To build new power lines because went out a lot. Further than a baseload.
▶ 1:28:45And so you have to have new power lines built to to transmit the electricity. Various locations to the existence. Is that correct? Correct.
▶ 1:28:57And when a has to retrofit a plant and then has ue the is still open, that would would produce that electricity about to wind and solar and all of those costs are passed on to the also we have the supply chain builder.
▶ 1:29:25>> got to study this to see if there . Isn't that right? Correct. And if we. A balance on the and we can perhaps reduce that wind and. Solar bring to the consumer. Ise purpose consumer. >> that's absolutely correct.
▶ 1:29:51>> because going the from the eia or 20 year period of utility prices and the electricity that she entered into the record, if we and what is the date on that do you that, electricity pricing for 2005 through july 2025. All right. >> uh, madam, may we have recor?
▶ 1:30:22>> all right. Thank you. I appreciate. And so when we look at the at moment in 36, 28 that, uh. Assessments sir to draw their attention. Hurt theif they don't use they.
▶ 1:30:42Shut down all of their, uh, as or use nuclear wind, solar, coal, natural gas. If you don't look at all of it, is more purpose o?
▶ 1:31:01>> again, uh, to the gentleman that a a pco and a state power, maybe we're just going power and the states you've got you second set of power, you got now some of the g emissions. >> and this just to make them consider it.
▶ 1:31:27And then if the sound and make their consumers, at least came from and know that they actually did consider cheaper. Isn't that correct? >> that's correct. Go. >> thank you very much, Mr. mendez. You're recognized. >> thank you. Um, I'll ask both of you right now, which is the of electricity and.
▶ 1:31:54The conservation and energy efficiency. >> the absolute cheapest. But but a very pretty battery storat now are the cheapest forms of g. >> is the have to look at what?
▶ 1:32:25No the question, what is the cheapest you're head using for fossil power cheaper actually. Energy are cheaper than.
▶ 1:32:46>> even without renewable energy is staying it is right now depls why are in certain places.
▶ 1:33:03And when I look at the, uh, representative castor, it is important because that's inflatd inflation is tied correct?
▶ 1:33:19Thate fossil gas prices going up russia in raisey are fuel. Is that correct wouldn't s the state of florida. >> is. Uh, power generation gas.
▶ 1:33:54So. When russia invaded ukraine soared and the administration domestic energy on lng, is therp administration are doing? >> is actually the electricity consumers in assisting in that?
▶ 1:34:19Uh, we, representative castor is those are they just like they they took a raise more by 61% is what's predictably, uh, representing right like seeing d
▶ 1:34:59For the wind. Exactly. Have a we amount of dam. That's a lot effort. Uh and the drought? It'e because of the drought. But in rhode island, that for rhode island.
▶ 1:35:27Much about that project. >> yeah. Federal just yesterday ruled against arbitrary cancellation. Shore hopefully there will be a folkse road. >> and the, the issue that we're looking at now is what could bring down utility costs.
▶ 1:35:56And I think that they're, you're usefl are high. Oh where do we like nd they are of bringing in a work across the mix into the system, saying.
▶ 1:36:21You can only have but not right nowu want and you look at right now is we bill energy to all vote water. Um caster.
▶ 1:36:50Um, what at these, you know, we in mexico, we, uh, does. Guard got clean gut the c. >> they.
▶ 1:37:15Think for certificates, for pipeline use lawyer, and I o congress, and what I uh, these kind of more expensive and time consuming. >> I'll be, uh, the result of this before is legislation, and there's.
▶ 1:37:42And io or water, we have seen multiple legislation come before this committee.
▶ 1:37:59Clean water protections different kinds of chemicals covered, uh, so that d in my you, we don't have lie on our groundwater law.
▶ 1:38:18And when we ker clean can live you can have an economy if you don't. And . To enable the.
▶ 1:38:39It just doesn't up with while to type , that does not carry out lowering for american. So sam last democrat.
▶ 1:39:07Yeah else you wanted to add to the congress? With res to some of the some of the testimony today, the plans, they complicated problem. And, uh ths would really put your sources.
▶ 1:39:34D it denigrate the energy that is available now, which as congresswoman laid.
▶ 1:39:47It the good old say revolution was that energy and t these don't like it.
▶ 1:40:07This is a threat, but that is the future and that is so I think any of these and instead to on f hard work in america, electric bills that you raised as the issue of innovation. >> we should.
▶ 1:40:36Want our, uh, trees and not the united innovae with regards regards to all the new form that we're not in n the innovation, we know what now isa
▶ 1:41:10Lot of these things. And, manufg jobs because of what , uh, the plants okay. Not. Okag americans who had those those that's for our, uh, for foods, not okay for if you care about trade, if you've, it's another.
▶ 1:41:39Re push these bills forward to give up uh, r&d to be paying more for our electricity to be stripping states of their you fs not make sense. They are a couple that, uh. But chair, I y.
▶ 1:42:19>> fernandez. The solar wind and solar heavily very heavily is iy subsidized again, back in repube strategy but not picking the lon one of our, uh, march 20th, uh, that of ercot, which is, uh, you know f,
▶ 1:42:51Development of and 10,000mw of, uh, energy in the equivalent you combined plant. 2 hours, 12 hours. >> and when you talk about is d. >> they're putting.
▶ 1:43:18Everything , you know, of our our leading adversary we know what they're really doing out there.
▶ 1:43:34They're going coal ae love uh energy generators in the capacity to two hours after why, you've. Got to have a second source of power. Intermittent power.
▶ 1:44:02Finea second source. That's pretty too expensive. Too expensive. >> before he left, in his state, he's got a cold is theret . Down. But um, and, uh. For a a form of a subsidy that people didn't.
▶ 1:44:32Want to buy if they didn't have the about colleagues is doing and. A message. It's.
▶ 1:44:46Not not not onlys have caused screw south carolina. You got to get park them. Well he. Talked to the dealers out there.
▶ 1:45:11>> you, and you look at ford, you look at going away beu know what? This is one this is the problem. They're listening to what the consumers want. Now, what the pick the winners and losers. This picks losers picks the losers and gets the ultimate loser. Want to own it.
▶ 1:45:42>> the fact that what while china and coal they. Are eating our lunch energy. They're adding uh potentially more. They're not just doing say to other america is taking a step back.
▶ 1:46:03And that set up entities across america, these where they retiring coal plants. Sense anymore and now we've take the communities. Thoe workers and our innovation for the future future of our and th.
▶ 1:46:37>> well, thank you all for. Neld your and chair. >> and thank you to the witnesses being here. Today. I, committee chairman lodha, for your words that are core, prior. Affordability and efficiency ad.
▶ 1:47:03We're colleague gets the obvious grid with wind and solar, with abiding the reliability that keep lot of you against battery storage not being ready for price, I camp te need in all of the above energy port leo and our, uh, and our
▶ 1:47:38Pipelines. The reforms in these bills raise all boats. And at your portfolio. So I thank you for your leadership. Chairman, I'd like to. Why are so for consumers question. And it's pretty simple. There's back in the mid 1970s, which.
▶ 1:48:02By putting the right legislations that followed and this country w cannot produce rush day. And we're the let me say this, the cleanest natural gas, the cleaner. Because what we do here.
▶ 1:48:26But having, having a great resource if it can we've got to be able to do that and again, this there, new england is. When the new england governors are to pae than ever.
▶ 1:48:47Called don't we have country? But why? It's important not making sure consumers production . Their costs. It also. 86,000 s say this.
▶ 1:49:14It's not just I need every affordable because you don't have affordable energy. How are people going to work every in maine, sharing that there's uh, facilities that require devon to make sure that their product end appropriately unreliable energyd rolling. Bouts would put that commerce correct.
▶ 1:49:45And just on the manufacturing site, it's the don't need can never the glitch. There can thaw they have operate. What is thatu know, whether weather getting we small modular reactors to be behind them.
▶ 1:50:11Might be able to have their own gans, their, their gas turbines to run their operations not by case I, I'm, I'm all for having to remember d continuously.
▶ 1:50:38It's having energy companies all of the above portfolio by shining in the wind is blowing utilizing those stilo have that pipeline. And uh, those and the reliability. Reliability.
▶ 1:50:59Power, um, going back pipeline, um , the pipe resources are extendd around the. Country, that the supply is high, traditional supply and demand. We want, um, robust so that those prices are not scarce resources which in a polar vortex.
▶ 1:51:27With could pose problems and correct thank you r your madam chair. Thank you you reco. >> thank you so much, chair, fol through can't keep energy and build the inventory, make sure that elects
▶ 1:51:58Exploding manufacturing and meeting all c. Internet, we risk falling behinn a permitting maze that slows developers costs.
▶ 1:52:18Uh about helping special interests create the very problt years organizing inter, making it harder to build a reliable light infrastructure that the grid actually depends on americ, immigration or nurk in.
▶ 1:52:44Others warn that reliability everythins just fine to what's happening in my own home state of new york to see what the approach aggressive mandates combined with black infrastructure, driven up energy costs .
▶ 1:53:07Cannot thrive and ignore worke same the country's growing in needs, whether capacity. If project permitted, supply chains remain vague years years just to receive a winners and losers. They make sure states prioritize. And they focus.
▶ 1:53:34The department of energyo compete, innovate. It. Uh, chair latta, is there any been said ty important what you mentioned.
▶ 1:54:03You know, when you're thinking you should we have to have powe, previous to, um, short, uh, trud to get companies back here.
▶ 1:54:18It makes to have saw was a flatline uh, the datas and out there in maine going to keeg straight up and more power, not less.
▶ 1:54:37And I mean, when general mentioned, a little bite morning, data centers operating. So it's absolutely nl increase in power. It's. Just when you talk about it, 100 is e we're going to have to we are an offline. 15gw.
▶ 1:55:07You put the now. >> thank you very much. Uh uh. Practical common protect consums in the ahead. And I'm proud to report d back. Madam chair. Thank you nok any questions.
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▶ 2:08:58Private equity, which in private equity and much different stocke assets, the wall street and that.
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▶ 2:09:51Support . Other groups who have america, afl-cio financial, the service f america, each and many employee.
▶ 2:10:18Securities regulators, common sense these three provisions serious harms. These provisions would cause. It order doubt my memory vote on hra defy questions and, uh, recognize.
▶ 2:10:43Me >> thank you. Motions the witnesses I do appreciate them being here and did it explained. Thank to thank both the witnesses. I agree with, uh, we'll try to make our amendments in >> back. Thank you, Mr.
▶ 2:11:17>> we thank you both for coming in. Group of people to back you. Up. They're very good. >> team showed.. Um, for you al. >> thank you.
▶ 2:11:42>> thank you I'm ready
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▶ 2:14:28>> states, wyoming, another arid oh four es farming, expand the scope of ext aggressive enforcement actions have these agencies become so
▶ 2:14:59Aggressive structure of our 404 statute authorized. R violation even worse in 1990, when it passed a daily fine in 2014, for adjusted penalty amount, $500 per day for each section, and for how the agentse
▶ 2:15:31Agencies when one of science clean irrigation ditch on his property a and corps engineers come after him for aly violating section was a quote, e water of the united in their test case to take jurisdiction for structure.
▶ 2:15:55They sued my client and we of almost $65 mil, 0.1 acres of land. We won that case, only after a two week trial. And my client dollars to defend himself for violations stood. .
▶ 2:16:23Can you imagine defending my t for millions of dollars for cleaning out an f the monster that congress problh section 400 and, well an agencyr claiming that someone guilt is assumed
▶ 2:16:53Defend themselves with the c nee settlement where they face. Fine. Importantly, if a court ow proving. That they didn't violate the is correct and worse, the accused concept the process on us.
▶ 2:17:19How the clean water act has been settlement, regardless of whether there is any wrongdoing is up drawn the ire, epa or the court. Few days of these bone crushing financial ruin for the vast majority of our provide relief against abuses such as the place, the regulatory oversight and penalty framework, which allows us to
▶ 2:17:50Target actors by restoring hours per day, per violation out natis to their authority and against the totality had the was targeted, he would have still pn dollars. Clearly prevent this comparison.
▶ 2:18:17Penanct direction as the heavy hand of the law we need for their mission endorsement. Such an approach is such as the.
▶ 2:18:47Want to thank you for any quest. Months no, there are going to be different parts of that. >> okay. All right. >> I just want to make sure that at the beginning, the stands ar.
▶ 2:19:19>> thank you of the committee. Uh, I present today in front of. And n addition I am a proud resources . My entire office.
▶ 2:19:42I'm proud the topic of water because is the congress that mexico knows w . Water is life la uh, because water the sustaining is a part of culture of. Life.
▶ 2:20:01It is part of our part of who we are and so I am offering sure that t instead, federal protections, we are detections of our with all m here today is essentially a
▶ 2:20:33Gutting of the clean water act. And so my I would, uh, ultimately replace it with 2025. And that bill is many years colleague grace napoli. I no clean water. And now by ranking member that down by just a coupf years ago.
▶ 2:21:03And this and the continued assault that we have seen on the clean water. Act several weeks under the current protection amendment would clean up thousaf our arroyos across water is not onln as it should.
▶ 2:21:31No person should want me to have. To drink or bathe water that allowed to have chemicals pumped into it, he be scanning the water, but strengthening the clear immune e
▶ 2:22:06On a colleague across the aisle and, and because I believe ultimately, if we pass the our s clean, less safety of our. Comm, easier to pollute bodies of in places like new mexico, where wheatley established our prime waterways, where the state levet our.
▶ 2:22:35Waters, it is crucial that ensure devastating years that supreme e this body that the an issue whed because there were were so polld especially in.
▶ 2:23:03The northeast that, um we need to be. Strengthened, get safe for our communities rather than to gut these vital programs to support that,d the basic human right of utter. And with that, madam chairwoman.
▶ 2:23:38>> um, we are going to have recess. Uh because of its develop. And so let me see quick and first, let unanimous consene record. Is there. Any hearing? No objections.
▶ 2:24:03Thank you is there any for miss hagaman? I don't have any being here. >> I don't know but it's a glits late night here. Um, but, uh, was consent to an amendment amet testimony for board of to h.r.
▶ 2:24:23H defense fy 20 funding from being operating rights for civilian employees, record an amendment testimony from representative to leave in one to h.r.
▶ 2:24:433628, facility to have no disparate impacts on any minority communities, including impacts to human health and local I also. Heard another, uh amendment num, which adds. Requirements to include information on. Assessm.
▶ 2:25:18Without objection questions on k you questions. And once again , I love the fact and, uh , and his rules and, uh, we say that once rules committee is going to learn, uh, so time we heard it today. Thank you very.
▶ 2:25:50Sure. >> fernandes I think our with td here to go. >> sorry, I just don't nights. Is there. Three cha? >> 36684363628 1071. Seeing the.
▶ 2:26:27Mr. chair, I move the permit acd the rule points of order against consideration of the general controlled by the chair and ranking member. A member of thee designees the committee on infrastructure.
▶ 2:26:54Considers adopted in the bill as points or against provisions. Rule makes an order only the further amendments shall be considered only in the order printed. For only by a member designated in the be debatable for the time specified in controlled by the proponent and opponent opponent shall not be subject.
▶ 2:27:22To amend demand for division of the question. All points of order ct or waived rule provided one motion to recommend and considef h.r 33 three. The invest under a . Structured rule, the worldwide provides one hour of general division equally dividing by miy member. Committee on financial services are. Their respective designees.
▶ 2:27:50The rule provides that in lieu committee on finanl services, now front an the texte 80.1 considered as adopted in the bill, as amended. Shall we just read. Through all points of order against only the further rules report. Each amendment shall be considered only in the offered n the report shall be considered. Read shall be specified in the .
▶ 2:28:21Equally controlled by the proponent and an subject to a dr the question. All. Points of order against the amendments in point b if the rule provides one missionary commit further provides for consideration 3638l points of order against consideration. The bill that will provide for general debate by the chair.
▶ 2:28:49And ranking minority on energy and commerce. Perspective does the l shall be considered as read the rule waives all order against provisions of the bill. The rule further makes an order. Amendments of the rules committee report.
▶ 2:29:05Each amendment shall the order printed in the report may be offered only for designated read shall be debatable proponent and an opponent, and shall not be for division of the question in which waive the rule as one motion to recommend the rule, further provides for consideration of h.r.
▶ 2:29:31For reliay and stability act and or structured points of order against consent to the bill. The. The bill shalr general debate, providing control by minority member of the committee on commerce by their respective makes an order only the print in part amendment may be only the order printed in
▶ 2:30:02Report may be offered only by a member subject to amendment and be subject to a demand for division of the question. All points in the part d committee report are waived.
▶ 2:30:19Met the rule further provides consideration to the improving interagency coordination for a closed role, or waives all points of order against considering provides that considered as read. The rule weaves all points of the rule. Provides one hour of general debate, equally divided and minority member of the committee on energy and consequences. The rule.
▶ 2:30:44Provides one motion to ofs 1071 session act under a closede rule waives all order against te rule provides an amendment and the nature consisting rules onel we the bill as amended. Considers read rule waives all provisions in t.
▶ 2:31:11The rule provides one by the chd ranking member. The committee provides one motion that rule further states that the committee on chair of the permat select committee on millions in the congressional record not later than december 5th, such ey of 1071, only the rule provides that on any legislative day in session of the 119th congress
▶ 2:31:41Before january 6th, 2026, this may dispense with organizational and legislative proceedings of the. For. Thank you. >> um, we have just received from budget office that the hegemon and is such. We will be striking from the rule.
▶ 2:32:11>> uh, is there a further discussion, on the, uh, amendme? >> I have, I have three amendments. Um, chair have to vn striking the limit, or are we going further with you? >> okay, okay. Do we have. Our word?
▶ 2:32:38>> uh, madam chair, I have an amendment to the to s 1071 offey representative jacobs services including ivf, active duty dependents. Madam chair, um, yoo have.
▶ 2:32:59This is, uh know, uh, andi mean, and when both the house iu know, shows you when leadership groups. And federal decision that will of the I thit that's just wrong. Urging. Yes. Vote is there further discussion? >> um, Mr.
▶ 2:33:27On all those saying I, I say no, no opinions norman how u know Mr. griffith uh, no. >> Mr. mcgovern hi.
▶ 2:33:57Mr. mcgovern. Scanlon. Uh, Mr. universe. No, madam chair, the d the agreed to Mr. mcgovern. >> I'm chair able to make an order. Amendment number 21 to s 1071. Cross which adds section 1110 eight prohibiting the of department of defense.
▶ 2:34:27From being used to restrict collective bargaining rights. For this protects civilian dod. It was included il . Product. Why we don't really know, should have once again toe this. Language, but I yield back . >> thank you. Discussion. The qs honorable signify by saying I.
▶ 2:34:56I say in the opinion chair , those have it for roll call. The clerk will call the roll. M. Mr. Mrs. horton. God. Mr. jack . >> no Mr. noguchi Mr. pleasure. Fernandes.
▶ 2:35:28Mr. >> the clerk will report the no. >> the amendment not agreed to the amendment. >> um to the the rule providing for immediate consideration. H.r affordable cd premium tax credits. Through 2028. Close roll the chair and ranking. Member.
▶ 2:35:55As you know, we are on the basis of crisis to address. But no matter how. Their heads in the sand, health care 20 million americans who get their health care on aca over the past year.
▶ 2:36:14Republicans, I repeat, extending critical legislative days left before nine to fix ths for millions of low, and I woule our differences up extending these against this motion, it's the he
▶ 2:36:45Floor. With that, I guess discue amendment. Signify by saying aye . Aye. Those opposed same in the opinion chair. It's not call the Mrs. fish. >> Mr. Mr. Mrs. horton no Mr. scott. Mr.
▶ 2:37:17Jack. No Mr. I. Mr. mcgovern I miss scanlon, Mr. madam chair >> madam chair, call the roll. >> three ayes. , madam chair. >> I.
▶ 2:37:44Move the committee, make an order number is the current ten. Replaces it with requirements to develop voluntary guidelines for statese elections.
▶ 2:38:03The office in januarl this one as well. The rise in dy owe a utility bill.
▶ 2:38:30And are shocked. The bill we have before is here will do nothing, and she forefront of energy innovation y grid faces and.
▶ 2:38:54To have the toot would do current it with provisr my the inter.
▶ 2:39:07Of energy to develop re three integrated lines and best practices they plan their urge a yes vote for my amendment.
▶ 2:39:26It more affordable and back sir on the amendment questions on the amendment favoe clerk will no. Mr. norman, Mr. n mnuchin, Mr.
▶ 2:39:57Langworthy Mr. langworthy Mr. ga scanlon I miss pleasure fernandez the clee total yeas eight nine. The amendment is not agreed to. Miss sykes. >> madam amendment to the rule. I move the make measure 3898. Ordinary.
▶ 2:40:26Of 2025, in newe that. Fills our crops and protects our force cannot to tee or.
▶ 2:40:50And threaten our provided essential functions again guttes come back and we the clean water act have second ruling now disruption.
▶ 2:41:18The of protecting as from p s to shield corporate polluters who chemicay swimming stansbury amendment with an act of 2025. I vote a yes vote. On. I urge a to the american people that we will keep. I.
▶ 2:41:48Their further just hearing none the signify by saying I in the opine no's have.
▶ 2:42:03No is on a motion fry saying I no in the opinion agreed to. Mrl call. The clerk will call the roll. >> yes. Mrs. fischbach? Yes Mr.
▶ 2:42:34Norman, Mr. norman. Yes. Mr. roy, I Mrs. hi, Mr. langworthy. Shirley were the I Mr. scott the griffith. I Mr. jack aye. Mcgovern no. Miss. Scr fernandez. No, madam chair, I support the total 98. >> the.
▶ 2:43:03The motion to report is georgia. Mr. scott will be managing will be managing for the democrat. >> thank you very much. With. Sr , I assuming that's