Career Ready Students: Innovations from Community Colleges and the Private Sector

AI in Education and WorkforceHouse Appropriations Subcommittee on Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, Education, and Related Agencies · February 12, 2025 · 119th Congress
The House Appropriations Subcommittee on Labor, HHS, Education, and Related Agencies held this hearing to examine how community colleges and private-sector partnerships prepare students for careers and maximize their return on investment in postsecondary education. Begins at ▶ 0:07:06
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Title

Career Pathways: Community Colleges, Employers, and Federal Workforce Funding

Purpose

The House Appropriations Subcommittee on Labor, HHS, Education, and Related Agencies held this hearing to examine how community colleges and private-sector partnerships prepare students for careers and maximize their return on investment in postsecondary education. Witnesses discussed federal financial aid design (including Pell Grant flexibility), Workforce Innovation and Opportunity Act (WIOA) funding, and employer-driven training models like Toyota's FAME program, against the backdrop of proposed 2025 appropriations cuts and threats to dismantle the Department of Education. Begins at▶ 0:07:06

Who spoke

• Chairman Robert Aderholt (R-AL)▶ 0:07:06: Opened by noting the federal government issues roughly $90 billion in new student loans annually with $1.6 trillion outstanding▶ 0:08:37, and cited a 61% six-year graduation rate as unacceptable given 8 million unfilled jobs▶ 0:10:39; later questioned witnesses on Toyota's decentralized training model and Wallace State's labor-market alignment▶ 0:50:01▶ 0:52:02.

• Ranking Member Rosa DeLauro (D-CT)▶ 0:14:42: Criticized DOGE's termination of $1 billion in Institute of Education Sciences contracts▶ 0:15:12 and the Trump administration's plans regarding the Department of Education▶ 0:16:44; detailed proposed cuts including $1.7 billion from WIOA state grants and elimination of SEOG aid for 833,000 students▶ 0:19:15▶ 0:19:45; later pressed witnesses on WIOA youth/adult job training cuts▶ 0:57:36.

• Preston Cooper, American Enterprise Institute▶ 0:28:21: Testified that college enrollment has fallen 12% since 2010 amid eroding confidence in the value of a four-year degree▶ 0:29:22, and that 124 federally funded institutions have completion rates below 10%▶ 0:30:22; argued Pell Grant clock-hour minimums exclude many short-term credential programs▶ 0:31:23.

• Dr. Vicki Karolewics, Wallace State Community College▶ 0:32:23: Described serving over 8,000 students each semester with a student success rate above 80%▶ 0:37:27; explained stacked credentials letting students exit with marketable skills, such as an LPN credential en route to an RN degree▶ 0:35:56, and noted Wallace State is a top-10 finalist for the $1 million Aspen Prize▶ 0:37:57.

• Dr. Mary Alice McCarthy, New America▶ 0:37:57: Said Career and Technical Education funding remains below 2001 levels and called for tripling Carl D. Perkins funding to $4 billion a year▶ 0:42:01; warned that dismantling the Department of Education would disconnect CTE from K-12 and higher-education systems▶ 0:44:02.

• Dennis Parker, Toyota Motor North America▶ 0:45:27: Described Toyota's FAME program, now in 16 states with over 45 community colleges and 450 employer partners▶ 0:47:29; said Alabama expanded from 1 to 11 FAME chapters after a $12 million federal grant in 2019▶ 0:48:00.

• Rep. Eric Sorensen (D-IL) [1:26:56 est.] *(not present in transcript as separate speaker; omitted)*

• Rep. Mark Pocan (D-WI)▶ 1:22:25: Argued the hearing was disconnected from urgent events, citing DOGE actions and a lack of a continuing resolution past March 14▶ 1:22:55; asked whether any proposed policies would lower costs of higher education, eggs, or milk▶ 1:25:56.

• Rep. Rick Allen (R-GA)▶ 1:27:02: Highlighted Louisiana Delta Community College's 16-week line-worker training program with Northeast Louisiana Power Cooperative▶ 1:17:51; asked Dr. Karolewics about rural grant-writing capacity▶ 1:19:22.

• Rep. Mark Pocan *(duplicate, see above)*

• Rep. Rich McCormick (R-GA)▶ 1:29:03: Cited a 100% job placement rate at Lanier Technical College▶ 1:29:33 and asked Cooper and Parker about strengthening employer-driven training models▶ 1:30:34.

• Rep. Madeleine Dean (D-PA)▶ 1:32:48: Noted Project 2025 calls for eliminating the Department of Education▶ 1:34:19; asked about the value of humanities in career-technical education▶ 1:36:26 and impacts of flat Pell funding▶ 1:37:27.

• Rep. Craig Goldman (R-TX)▶ 1:38:58: Described Texas community colleges partnering with Toyota and aerospace firms▶ 1:39:28; asked whether community college ROI exceeds that of four-year private institutions▶ 1:43:05.

• Rep. Frederica Wilson (D-FL)▶ 1:44:06: Read a list of proposed cuts including $1.7 billion from WIOA state grants and $712 million from adult job training▶ 1:44:36, and asked panelists whether these cuts would negatively affect their work▶ 1:46:07.

• Rep. Stephanie Bice (R-OK)▶ 1:50:20: Cited Canadian Valley Technology Center's nine-month wind-farm management program with Halliburton▶ 1:51:20; asked Cooper about cost-effective ways to expand technical education without student debt▶ 1:51:51.

• Rep. Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick (D-FL)▶ 1:55:23: Asked Dr. McCarthy how public investment in community colleges benefits broader community prosperity▶ 1:57:24, citing Broward College's outreach model▶ 1:58:54.

• Rep. Riley Moore (R-WV)▶ 2:00:56: Described West Virginia's Jumpstart Savings Program helping students pay for post-graduation costs like tools and licenses▶ 2:01:26; asked panelists whether such a program would be useful▶ 2:03:58.

• Rep. Josh Harder (D-CA)▶ 2:08:52: Cited a Sanden survey where 100% of employers said career education should be a higher priority▶ 2:09:53; asked what is preventing smaller employers from participating in training partnerships▶ 2:10:23.

• Rep. Robert Aderholt *(closing questions on dual enrollment)*▶ 2:16:26: Asked Dr. Karolewics about dual-enrollment outcomes at Wallace State▶ 2:16:26.

• Ranking Member Rosa DeLauro (closing remarks)▶ 2:18:28: Cited Project 2025 page 319 calling for elimination of the Department of Education▶ 2:19:58; listed proposed cuts including $1.7 billion to WIOA state grants and $1 billion to campus-based student aid▶ 2:22:30, and defended the Appropriations Committee's constitutional power of the purse▶ 2:23:31.

Key moments

• Cooper stated college enrollment fell 12% since its 2010 peak and that 124 federally funded institutions have completion rates below 10%▶ 0:29:22▶ 0:30:22.

• DeLauro said DOGE terminated $1 billion in Department of Education contracts, including Institute of Education Sciences research, on the Monday before the hearing▶ 0:15:12.

• DeLauro cited Alabama-specific federal education funding: $239 million for 100,000 students with disabilities, $33 million for teacher positions, and $36 million for Career and Technical Education▶ 0:24:19▶ 0:24:49.

• Rep. Steny Hoyer called for congressional hearings on the "usurpation" of Article I appropriations authority by the executive branch▶ 1:10:12▶ 1:11:14.

• Rep. Pocan argued the hearing showed "Congressional tone deafness" amid a looming government funding deadline and unresolved court fights over federal worker reinstatement▶ 1:22:25▶ 1:24:26; none of the four witnesses felt able to answer his direct question on whether policies discussed would lower consumer costs▶ 1:25:56.

• Dr. Karolewics described a paralyzed veteran who received a job offer the day he completed Wallace State's commercial truck driving program, which pays over $60,000 entry-level in Alabama▶ 1:06:10▶ 1:06:40.

• Parker said FAME expanded from a single Kentucky chapter in 2010 to 45+ community colleges across 16 states with over 450 employer partners, and Alabama grew from 1 to 11 chapters after a $12 million 2019 federal grant▶ 0:47:29▶ 0:48:00.

• Wilson pressed all four witnesses on whether proposed cuts (including $1.7B from WIOA, $455M from SEOG, $615M from federal work-study) would hurt their work; most said they were unfamiliar with the specific proposal and could not answer definitively▶ 1:46:07▶ 1:46:37.

• McCarthy called for tripling Carl D. Perkins CTE funding to $4 billion annually, noting current funding remains below 2001 levels▶ 0:42:01.

• DeLauro closed by citing Project 2025's opening line calling for elimination of the Department of Education (page 319) and reasserted the Appropriations Committee's constitutional "power of the purse"▶ 2:19:58▶ 2:24:01.

Metadata

CommitteeHouse Appropriations Subcommittee on Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, Education, and Related Agencies
Chamber / CongressHouse · 119th Congress
DateFebruary 12, 2025
TypeHearing
Witnesses
Mr. Preston Cooper — Senior Fellow, American Enterprise Institute
Dr. Vicki Karolewics — President, Wallace State Community College
Mr. Dennis Parker — Consultant, Regional Talent Development, Toyota Motor North America
Dr. Mary Alice McCarthy — Senior Director, Center on Education & Labor, New America
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