AILegislative hearing on 12 veterans' health care bills

Veterans Legislation MarkupsHouse Veterans' Affairs Subcommittee on Health · March 11, 2025 · 119th Congress
The House Veterans' Affairs Subcommittee on Health held this legislative hearing to consider 12 bills and discussion drafts covering topics including hyperbaric oxygen therapy for TBI/PTSD, suicide prevention grants and gun lock boxes, telemedicine prescribing, public-private VA construction partnerships, high-cost medications at state veterans homes, women veterans' cancer care coordination, and preventive care copays. Begins at ▶ 0:09:37
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Legislative hearing on 12 veterans' health care bills

Purpose

The House Veterans' Affairs Subcommittee on Health held this legislative hearing to consider 12 bills and discussion drafts covering topics including hyperbaric oxygen therapy for TBI/PTSD, suicide prevention grants and gun lock boxes, telemedicine prescribing, public-private VA construction partnerships, high-cost medications at state veterans homes, women veterans' cancer care coordination, and preventive care copays. Sponsoring members presented their bills, followed by two panels of VA officials and outside witnesses who offered testimony and answered questions, with Democrats also using the hearing to raise concerns about VA workforce cuts and funding. Begins at▶ 0:09:37

Who spoke

• Chairwoman Mariannette Miller-Meeks (R-IA)▶ 0:09:37: Opened the hearing, outlined the 12 bills on the agenda, and described her own bills — the SPORT Act, No Wrong Door for Veterans Act, Providing Veterans Essential Medications Act, and START Act▶ 0:09:37; later questioned witnesses on VA staffing increases, chip-in savings, and the Fox grant program▶ 2:05:12.

• Ranking Member Julia Brownley (D-CA)▶ 0:13:10: Argued a legislative hearing was misplaced given Trump administration mass firings, contract terminations, and a $1 purchase-card limit disrupting VA care▶ 0:13:10; cited over 2,400 VA employees already terminated and a Hampton VAMC mammogram delayed to June due to staffing shortages▶ 0:14:11▶ 0:15:41; later questioned Dr. O'Toole on the marriage and family therapist bill and lockbox distribution▶ 0:44:28.

• Rep. Steve Womack (R-AR)▶ 0:18:13: Presented HR 1107, the Protecting Veteran Access to Telemedicine Services Act, to make permanent the pandemic-era Ryan Haight Act exemption allowing VA telehealth prescribing of controlled substances▶ 0:18:43.

• Rep. Sylvia Garcia (D-TX)▶ 0:21:15: Presented the Women Veterans Cancer Care Coordination Act, noting women now make up about 11.3% of veterans (over 2.1 million) versus 4% in 2000, and proposed regional cancer care coordinators▶ 0:21:46.

• Rep. Gregory Murphy (R-NC)▶ 0:23:16: Presented HR 1336, the Veterans National TBI Treatment Act, citing 17–22 veteran suicides a day and calling it "medical malpractice" not to offer hyperbaric oxygen therapy (HBOT) to veterans▶ 0:24:17▶ 0:26:18.

• Rep. Christopher Deluzio (D-PA)▶ 0:26:48: Presented HR 1987, the Saving Our Veterans Lives Act, to distribute gun lock boxes VA-wide, citing a veteran suicide rate of about 17.5 per day, mostly outside VHA▶ 0:27:19.

• Rep. Lauren Underwood (D-IL)▶ 0:28:19: Presented the Copay Fairness for Veterans Act, noting the ACA has exempted civilians from preventive-care copays for nearly 15 years but VA still charges veterans for screenings▶ 0:28:49.

• Dr. Thomas O'Toole, VA Deputy Assistant Under Secretary for Health▶ 0:31:20: Gave VA's position on all 12 bills, supporting several with amendments and opposing the TBI/HBOT bill, Saving Our Veterans Lives Act, and marriage/family therapist bill▶ 0:31:51; later said HBOT research shows "the same impact as placebo" for TBI/PTSD▶ 1:09:15.

• Dr. Jeffrey Gold, University of Nebraska System President▶ 0:36:54: Testified in support of HR 217, describing the Omaha VA Ambulatory Care Center built for $56 million versus a budgeted $136 million▶ 0:53:06, and a planned $2.19 billion "Project Health" campus▶ 0:38:55.

• Rep. Don Bacon (R-NE)▶ 0:41:56: Presented HR 217, the CHIP IN for Veterans Act, saying the Omaha center cost $85 million versus a $135 million VA estimate, saving $50 million, and has served 31,725 patients▶ 0:42:57▶ 0:43:28.

• Rep. Yassamin Ansari (referenced as "Hamad" in transcript) (D-AZ)▶ 0:50:01: Asked Dr. O'Toole about a VA forensic audit and Fox grant effectiveness▶ 0:50:32, and asked Dr. Gold about replicating the Omaha public-private model▶ 0:53:06.

• Rep. Shomari Figures (transcribed as "Sheriss McCormack") (D-AL)▶ 0:54:37: Pressed witnesses on community care coordination gaps and cited a New York Times report on a fired VA employee halting an NIH cancer trial▶ 0:56:38▶ 0:57:08.

• Rep. Kimberlyn King-Hines (D-Northern Mariana Islands, non-voting)▶ 0:59:40: Asked how the Fox grant program reaches veterans in remote territories like the CNMI▶ 0:59:40.

• Rep. Maxine Dexter (D-OR)▶ 1:01:11: Criticized proceeding with a legislative hearing amid a planned $23 billion PACT Act funding cut and 83,000 additional VA layoffs▶ 1:01:41; pressed O'Toole on whether funding and staffing uncertainty hinders implementation▶ 1:03:42.

• Rep. James Walkinshaw (transcribed as "Dr. Conway") (D-VA)▶ 1:06:14: Questioned the No Wrong Door Act's "significant numbers" standard for grantees▶ 1:06:44 and pressed O'Toole on VA's opposition to the TBI/HBOT bill▶ 1:08:44.

• Sue Morris, President, Veterans Trust▶ 1:21:14: Testified the Omaha center was delivered for $86 million versus a $135 million budget, saving taxpayers $50 million, via $23 million in value-engineered savings▶ 1:23:15▶ 1:23:46.

• Brian Dempsey, Wounded Warrior Project▶ 1:25:47: Supported the SPORT Act, No Wrong Door Act, and telemedicine bill, describing adaptive prosthetics for sports and recreation▶ 1:26:48.

• Dr. Andrew Kozminski, University of Iowa Health Care▶ 1:30:50: Testified on HR 1336, citing a February 2025 randomized trial showing HBOT patients maintained neuropsychiatric benefits at 6 months, with greater improvement after 80 sessions than 40▶ 1:34:22▶ 1:34:52; later recommended requiring accredited facilities for safety▶ 1:50:02.

• Ed Harries, National Association of State Veterans Homes▶ 1:35:52: Testified that state veterans homes cannot be reimbursed for high-cost medications, citing a $20,000/month Crohn's drug and a $188,000/month medication case in Idaho▶ 1:36:53▶ 1:38:24.

• Jon Retzer, Disabled American Veterans▶ 1:40:55: Outlined DAV positions on all bills, noting firearms are involved in nearly 72% of veteran suicides▶ 1:41:26; later shared he personally was not offered a lockbox despite meeting VA criteria▶ 1:57:07.

Key moments

• Rep. Bacon and Dr. Gold said the Omaha VA Ambulatory Care Center, built under the CHIP IN pilot, cost $85 million versus a VA-budgeted $135 million, saving about $50 million, with $35 million from non-federal sources▶ 0:42:57▶ 0:43:28.

• Dr. O'Toole stated VA does not support the Veterans National TBI Treatment Act (HBOT pilot), citing VA/DOD research showing HBOT has "the same impact as placebo" for PTSD and no scientific basis for TBI▶ 1:09:15; Rep. Murphy countered with an NIH meta-analysis showing objective improvement▶ 0:24:48.

• Rep. Brownley said the administration plans to cut VA staff by 80,000 in addition to 2,400 employees already terminated, and cited a Hampton VAMC veteran whose cancelled mammogram couldn't be rescheduled until four months later▶ 0:13:40▶ 0:15:41.

• Ed Harries described a Wisconsin veteran's state home forced to absorb a $122,000 chemotherapy medication cost, and another case where VA told a home a $20,000 sealed chemotherapy drug could not be returned and had to be discarded▶ 1:39:24▶ 1:39:54.

• Sue Morris said value engineering with VA on construction and security standards saved $23 million on the Omaha project, delivered for $86 million total against a $135 million budget▶ 1:23:46.

• Chairwoman Miller-Meeks disputed Democrats' funding claims, stating the toxic exposure fund saw a $6 billion increase (not a cut) and VA's budget rose from $243 billion to $369 billion over four years, with 60,000 new full-time and 23,000 part-time employees▶ 2:11:47▶ 2:12:18.

• Rep. Figures cited a New York Times report that a fired VA employee's termination halted an NIH clinical trial enrolling veterans with throat cancer▶ 0:57:08; Dr. Gold said reducing the workforce "will materially reduce access to care and quality of care"▶ 0:58:39.

• Dr. Kozminski, at Brownley's prompting, agreed HR 1336 lacks safeguards and recommended requiring treatment at accredited hyperbaric facilities, citing a fatal chamber explosion at an unaccredited Michigan clinic▶ 1:49:02▶ 1:50:02.

• Dr. O'Toole said VA does not support the Saving Our Veterans Lives Act as written because implementation costs would significantly exceed its $5 million annual authorization▶ 0:34:23.

• Jon Retzer testified he personally met VA criteria for a suicide-risk gun lockbox but was never offered one, despite VA's program existing since last year▶ 1:57:07.

Metadata

Official titleLegislative Hearing on: Discussion Draft, Standardizing Treatment and Referral Times Act; Discussion Draft, No Wrong Door for Veterans Act; Discussion Draft, Providing Veterans Essential Medications Act; Discussion Draft, Veterans Supporting Prosthetics Opportunities and Recreational Therapy Act; Discussion Draft, To direct the Secretary of Veterans Affairs and the Comptroller General of the United States to report on certain funding shortfalls in the Department of Veterans Affairs; H.R. 217, CHIP IN for Veterans Act (Rep. Bacon); H.R. 1107, Protecting Veteran Access to Telemedicine Services Act of 2025 (Rep. Womack); H.R. 1336, The Veterans National Traumatic Brain Injury Treatment Act (Rep. Murphy); H.R. 658, To amend title 38, United States Code, to establish qualifications for the appointment of a person as a marriage and family therapist, qualified to provide clinical supervision, in the Veterans Health Administration; Discussion Draft, Copay Fairness for Veterans Act; Discussion Draft, Saving Our Veterans Lives Act; and Discussion Draft, Women Veterans Cancer Care Coordination Act
CommitteeHouse Veterans' Affairs Subcommittee on Health
Chamber / CongressHouse · 119th Congress
DateMarch 11, 2025
TypeHearing
Witnesses
The Honorable Jack Bergman — Member of Congress
The Honorable Gregory Murphy — Member of Congress
The Honorable Steve Womack — Member of Congress
The Honorable Don Bacon — Member of Congress
The Honorable Lauren Underwood — Member of Congress
The Honorable Christopher Deluzio — Member of Congress
Dr. Thomas O'Toole — Deputy Assistant Undersecretary for Health for Clinical Services, U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs, Veterans Health Administration
Dr. Antoinette Shappell — Deputy Assistant Under Secretary for Health for Patient Services, U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs, Veterans Health Administration
Dr. Thomas Emmendorfer — Pharmacy Benefits Management, U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs, Veterans Health Administration
Dr. Jeffrey Gold — President, University of Nebraska System
Dr. Andrew Kozminski — Medical Director of Hyperbaric Medicine, University of Iowa Health Care
Mr. Ed Harries — President, National Association of State Veterans Homes
Mr. Jon Retzer — Deputy National Legislative Director for Health, Disabled American Veterans
Ms. Sue Morris — President, Veterans Trust
Mr. Brian Dempsey — Director of Government Affairs, Wounded Warrior Project
The Honorable Sylvia Garcia — Member of Congress
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