Oversight Hearing – Capitol Complex Public Safety and Security

Legislative Branch Budget RequestsHouse Appropriations Subcommittee on Legislative Branch · March 25, 2025 · 119th Congress
The House Appropriations Subcommittee on Legislative Branch held this oversight hearing to review recent security breaches at Capitol complex entrances and to hear from outgoing Capitol Police Chief J. Begins at ▶ 0:33:27
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Title

Capitol Police oversight of recent security screening breaches

Purpose

The House Appropriations Subcommittee on Legislative Branch held this oversight hearing to review recent security breaches at Capitol complex entrances and to hear from outgoing Capitol Police Chief J. Thomas Manger about corrective actions ahead of his retirement. Members from both parties also raised broader issues including January 6 accountability, a still-unbuilt memorial plaque, continuing-resolution funding constraints, and morale within the department. Begins at▶ 0:33:27

Who spoke

• Chairman Mark Amodei (referred to as "Chairman Balladeo/Valdeo" in captions)▶ 0:33:27: Opened the hearing, welcomed new subcommittee members, and outlined that the purpose was to review Capitol complex security and recent screening breaches▶ 0:33:52; later questioned Manger on confidence levels post-breach▶ 0:52:18 and screening location adequacy▶ 0:55:54.

• Ranking Member (Mr. Espaillat, captioned "Espot/Espayat")▶ 0:37:06: Praised Manger's transparency and cited 103 IG and six GAO recommendations addressed▶ 0:37:31; criticized the unbuilt January 6 plaque as "really unexcusable"▶ 0:39:12 and pressed on AI-enabled full-body/vehicle screening gaps, including unscreened cyclists and runners passing swept vehicle checkpoints▶ 1:00:29▶ 1:01:00.

• Ranking Member Rosa DeLauro (D-CT), full committee▶ 0:41:21: Thanked officers and Manger, said the "tolerable number" of firearms entering the complex "should be zero"▶ 0:44:25, asked how CR-level funding (rather than a full-year bill) affects operations▶ 0:45:27, and blamed the House majority for abandoning a bipartisan FY2025 deal in favor of a partisan bill▶ 0:45:57.

• Chief J. Thomas Manger, USCP▶ 0:46:26: Testified that USCP screens over 8 million people annually▶ 0:46:55 and detailed new measures including mandatory sergeant post-checks three times per shift▶ 0:47:19, a virtual camera audit program▶ 0:48:14, a dedicated screening program manager▶ 0:48:36, twice-yearly refresher testing starting this summer▶ 0:48:36, and a benchmarking review against Secret Service, TSA, and Federal Protective Service due April 4▶ 0:49:05; stressed all three breaches were human error, not technology or policy failures▶ 0:49:35▶ 0:51:25.

• Rep. Nick LaLota (captioned "Loa")▶ 1:01:29: Confirmed staffing figures of about 2,200 sworn officers, ~1,600 rank-and-file, and ~210 sergeants/lieutenants▶ 1:01:29▶ 1:01:57; asked about first-line supervisor culture▶ 1:02:25 and what guidance Manger would leave for future oversight▶ 1:06:19.

• Rep. Mike Quigley (D-IL)▶ 1:08:13: Asked whether officers have a feedback mechanism, noting a departmentwide climate survey was just completed▶ 1:08:40; raised morale impact of the still-unbuilt January 6 plaque and confirmed at least 140 officers were injured that day, with several officers dying afterward▶ 1:09:56▶ 1:10:24; noted pardoned January 6 defendants have since been re-arrested▶ 1:12:25.

• Rep. Dale Strong (R-AL)▶ 1:12:56: Asked about training program adequacy, citing a recent "learning needs assessment"▶ 1:14:07; asked about post-incident after-action review procedures▶ 1:16:03 and balancing AI screening tools with officer judgment▶ 1:16:52; asked what single thing Manger would change if he could▶ 1:17:19.

• Rep. Celeste Malloy (R-UT)▶ 1:18:58: Noted all three breaches were human error and asked whether new accountability measures risk hurting officer morale▶ 1:19:48▶ 1:20:40, prompting Manger to describe an emphasis on training and counseling before discipline▶ 1:22:03.

Key moments

• Manger stated none of the year's screening failures resulted from technology or equipment malfunction — in each case the AI-equipped X-ray systems correctly flagged the prohibited item, but officers did not act on the alert▶ 0:49:35▶ 0:50:01.

• DeLauro said the "tolerable number" of firearms entering the Capitol complex from anyone not explicitly authorized "should be zero"▶ 0:44:25.

• Manger disclosed the department anticipates completing its benchmarking assessment against the Secret Service, TSA, and Federal Protective Service by April 4▶ 0:49:05.

• Espaillat and Manger discussed a concept for linking photos of bags and the people who placed them on X-ray belts, and noted that while cars are swept by dogs, runners and cyclists with backpacks currently walk in unimpeded▶ 1:00:05▶ 1:00:29▶ 1:01:00.

• LaLota established via department data that USCP has roughly 2,200 sworn officers, about 1,600 rank-and-file, and roughly 210 sergeants/lieutenants▶ 1:01:29▶ 1:01:57.

• Quigley noted that legislation commemorating January 6 heroism and directing installation of a plaque still has not been implemented, and Manger acknowledged this affects morale▶ 1:09:29▶ 1:09:56.

• Manger said pardons of individuals who assaulted police officers prompted an "earful" from his officers and that such pardons — regardless of president or party — send the message that assaulting a cop carries no consequence▶ 1:11:24▶ 1:11:54.

• Quigley noted that officers pardoned for January 6 conduct have since been arrested again, calling the pardons an encouragement to others▶ 1:12:25.

• Manger said 99.999% of officers were not involved in any of the three breaches, but all had to undergo retraining regardless▶ 1:21:04.

• Malloy asked directly whether accountability measures risk being punitive; Manger responded that his approach prioritizes training and counseling over discipline for first-time, non-serious mistakes▶ 1:22:03.

Metadata

CommitteeHouse Appropriations Subcommittee on Legislative Branch
Chamber / CongressHouse · 119th Congress
DateMarch 25, 2025
TypeHearing
Witnesses
Mr. J. Thomas Manger — Chief, United States Capitol Police
Videoyoutube
Transcript117 caption blocks · 8,627 words · 1:24:34 runtime
EventCongress.gov 118041