Energy, Installations, and Environment Update

Defense Posture and Global ThreatsHouse Armed Services Subcommittee on Readiness · May 14, 2025 · 119th Congress
The House Armed Services Subcommittee on Readiness held this hearing to receive the annual program update on the Department of Defense's Energy, Installations, and Environment portfolio from civilian officials representing OSD, the Army, Navy, and Air Force. Begins at ▶ 0:20:28
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DoD, Army, Navy, and Air Force update on installation energy and infrastructure readiness

Purpose

The House Armed Services Subcommittee on Readiness held this hearing to receive the annual program update on the Department of Defense's Energy, Installations, and Environment portfolio from civilian officials representing OSD, the Army, Navy, and Air Force. Members pressed witnesses on military construction cost overruns, barracks and family housing shortfalls, excess/vacant infrastructure, PFAS cleanup, energy resilience (including small modular nuclear reactors), and the impact of civilian workforce reductions. Begins at▶ 0:20:28

Who spoke

• Chairman Jack Bergman (R-MI)▶ 0:20:28: Opened the hearing, noting the military pays roughly 40% more than private industry to build the same facility, wasting nearly $7 billion last year▶ 0:21:22; criticized the Army and Air Force for maintaining costly excess/vacant facilities▶ 0:22:16 and pressed the Navy on why it hasn't privatized lodging like the Army and Air Force▶ 0:24:02.

• Rep. Marilyn Strickland (D-WA)▶ 0:24:31: Read Ranking Member Garamendi's statement noting a bipartisan NDAA provision set minimum facilities sustainment funding▶ 0:26:41 and citing reports that over $1 billion was diverted from Army sustainment accounts to the southwest border mission▶ 0:28:55; in her own remarks and later questioning, detailed Joint Base Lewis-McChord's 1952 fire station in disrepair▶ 0:30:48, stalled Clear Zone encroachment transactions▶ 0:32:10, and pressed the Army on its 860-home shortfall by 2027▶ 0:56:37▶ 0:58:17.

• Mr. Robert (Bob) Thompson, Acting Assistant Secretary of Defense for EI&E▶ 0:34:05: Outlined DoD's focus on installation resilience, waste elimination, and Guam/Hawaii planning▶ 0:34:31; detailed Guam ERCIP generator and battery projects▶ 0:50:59 and a new NDAA-mandated Guam resilience report he signed that morning▶ 0:52:26; said DoD is "all in" on an all-of-the-above energy approach including SMRs [0:07:34/1:08:03] and confirmed rising insurance costs are eating into military housing sustainment budgets▶ 1:33:37.

• Mr. Daniel Klippstein, Performing Duties of ASA for Installations, Energy and Environment▶ 0:37:12: Described Army barracks and family housing oversight reforms, including third-party inspections▶ 0:39:36; on JBLM housing, cited a $100 million equity commitment to build 245 more homes and an enhanced-use lease option for adjacent land▶ 0:58:39; confirmed awareness of Fort Johnson's rotational unit billeting project [0:19:46/1:19:46].

• Ms. Brenda Johnson-Turner, Performing Duties of ASN for Energy, Installations & Environment▶ 0:41:46: Said Navy infrastructure averages over 50 years old and is largely in poor condition▶ 0:43:13; cited SIOP shipyard modernization with 40 projects completed▶ 0:43:36 and explained the Navy's nonappropriated-fund lodging model differs from the Army/Air Force privatized approach▶ 1:22:07.

• Mr. Michael Saunders, Acting Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for EI&E▶ 0:45:46: Said the Air Force carries about 20% excess facilities and 60% excess airfield pavements▶ 0:48:18; cited a first commercial on-base apartment complex at Edwards AFB▶ 0:46:44 and a micro-nuclear reactor project underway at Eielson AFB, Alaska▶ 0:49:15; took questions on Barksdale's deteriorated $50 million aircraft wash facility for the record▶ 1:23:57.

• Del. James Moylan (R-Guam)▶ 0:50:11: Focused on Guam resilience post-Typhoon Mawar, asking about ERCIP prioritization▶ 0:50:40, Navy water/wastewater project delays▶ 0:52:51, Army modular/3D-printed construction on Guam▶ 0:53:46, and the Air Force's IGSA with Guam's Department of Agriculture on stray-animal control▶ 0:54:45.

• Rep. (Ms.) Alvarez▶ 1:05:53: Asked Thompson about DoD's near-term energy resilience plan given imported fuel reliance▶ 1:06:22 and pressed Johnson-Turner on stormwater flooding risk affecting mission-assurance installations near the Naval Academy▶ 1:09:28.

• Rep. Cory Mills (R-FL)▶ 1:10:41: Cited MilCon costs running 40–68% over commercial rates▶ 1:11:11 and asked about progressive design-build adoption and the 60-day MilCon reform review ordered by the Deputy Secretary▶ 1:11:39.

• Rep. (Mr.) Tran▶ 1:14:16: Asked all four witnesses about operational risks from civilian workforce reductions in housing, MilCon, and energy programs▶ 1:14:51, and separately about OSD's oversight of facility maintenance trends and DoD's history of underfunding its own facility sustainment model to about 80%▶ 1:18:24.

• Rep. Clay Higgins (R-LA)▶ 1:19:16: Raised Fort Johnson's rotational unit billeting area, noting Phase 1 is about $100 million over budget▶ 1:20:31; asked Johnson-Turner to explain the Navy's rationale for retaining in-house lodging▶ 1:21:23; asked Saunders about Barksdale AFB's deteriorated aircraft wash facility, roughly a $50 million fix▶ 1:23:28.

• A committee member (Herrian/Harshbarger)▶ 1:24:45: Criticized prior administration priorities and asked Thompson about SMR/TRISO fuel siting criteria▶ 1:26:00 and Klippstein about SMR resilience for Army mobilization platforms▶ 1:27:43.

• Rep. Chris Deluzio (D-PA)▶ 1:28:52: Pressed Thompson on PFAS incineration plans near East Liverpool, Ohio, getting confirmation there are no current plans though policy is being revisited▶ 1:29:16; asked about SMR/micro-reactor applications for data centers and grid resilience▶ 1:30:38.

• Rep. (Mr.) Benners▶ 1:35:02: Asked whether SMRs could produce JP-4/JP-5 jet fuel from air and water and proposed selling excess base-generated power to the grid for revenue▶ 1:35:28.

Key moments

• Bergman said the DoD's own estimates show it costs 40% more to build facilities than in the private sector, wasting nearly $7 billion last year▶ 0:21:22▶ 0:21:51.

• Strickland/Garamendi statement alleged over $1 billion was pulled from Army facilities sustainment accounts to fund a $1.4 billion southwest border operation▶ 0:28:55▶ 0:29:19.

• Strickland described JBLM's fire station 105, built in 1952, as "atrocious" and the sole crash/fire/rescue capability for 40 C-17s▶ 0:31:15▶ 0:31:40.

• Rep. Jimenez got Thompson to agree existential threats are nation-states like China, not climate change, directly rebutting a "Biden administration" framing▶ 1:02:08▶ 1:03:07.

• Strickland said the JBLM housing waitlist previously exceeded 700 families but the Army now says the waitlist doesn't show a need for more housing — calling it "moving the goalposts"▶ 0:57:03▶ 0:57:47.

• Saunders disclosed the Air Force carries about 20% excess facilities and 60% excess airfield pavements, driving maintenance backlogs▶ 0:48:18.

• Klippstein committed to a $100 million equity contribution to build 245 additional homes at JBLM and an enhanced-use lease for adjacent land▶ 0:58:39▶ 0:59:01.

• Thompson confirmed rising insurance premiums are "absolutely" eating into sustainment budgets for privatized military family housing, prompting an April summit with MHPI partners▶ 1:34:06▶ 1:34:31.

• Higgins noted Fort Johnson's rotational unit billeting Phase 1 construction is roughly $100 million over budget▶ 1:20:31.

• Multiple witnesses (Thompson, Klippstein, Johnson-Turner, Saunders) said it is "too early" to assess operational risk from ongoing civilian workforce reductions across housing, MilCon, and energy programs▶ 1:15:39▶ 1:16:35▶ 1:17:00▶ 1:17:27.

Metadata

CommitteeHouse Armed Services Subcommittee on Readiness
Chamber / CongressHouse · 119th Congress
DateMay 14, 2025
TypeHearing
Witnesses
Mr. Robert (Bob) Thompson — Acting Assistant Secretary of Defense for Energy, Installations, and Environment, Office of the Secretary of Defense
Mr. Michael Saunderse — Acting Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for Energy, Installations & Environment, Department of the Air Force
Mr. Daniel Klippstein — Performing the Duties of Assistant Secretary of the Army for Installations, Energy and Environment, Department of the Army
Ms. Brenda Johnson-Turner — Performing the Duties of Assistant Secretary of the Navy for Energy, Installations & Environment, Department of the Navy
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