Budget Hearing - U.S. Department of Health and Human Services

Treasury and HHS ConfirmationsHouse Appropriations Subcommittee on Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, Education, and Related Agencies · May 14, 2025 · 119th Congress
The House Appropriations Subcommittee on Labor, HHS, Education held its first budget hearing with HHS Secretary Robert F. Begins at ▶ 0:06:41
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Title

FY2026 HHS budget and Kennedy's reorganization of health agencies

Purpose

The House Appropriations Subcommittee on Labor, HHS, Education held its first budget hearing with HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to examine the department's fiscal year 2026 budget request and the ongoing reorganization of HHS agencies, including the proposed elimination or consolidation of SAMHSA, HRSA, ASPR, and ACL into a new Administration for Healthy America. Members sharply disputed proposed cuts of roughly $33 billion (about 25%), including $18–20 billion from NIH and nearly $4 billion from CDC, as well as ongoing withholding of already-appropriated 2025 funds, vaccine policy, Medicaid changes, unaccompanied migrant children, and food/nutrition policy. Begins at▶ 0:06:41

Who spoke

• Chairman (Rep. Robert Aderholt, R-AL)▶ 0:06:41: Opened citing reduced border crossings and fentanyl decline of 54%▶ 0:06:41, praised Kennedy's MAHA and reorganization plans▶ 0:07:37, and later pressed Kennedy on the CMS area wage index harming rural hospitals▶ 0:30:56.

• Ranking Member Rosa DeLauro (D-CT)▶ 0:09:31: Called the budget's $33 billion in health cuts "a disgrace"▶ 0:09:31, detailed elimination of SAMHSA, HRSA, ASPR, and ACL▶ 0:14:01, cited Dr. Peter Marks's resignation letter accusing Kennedy of promoting "misinformation and lies"▶ 0:13:10, and repeatedly pressed Kennedy on whether he is illegally withholding $2.7 billion in NIH funds appropriated for 2025▶ 0:35:34▶ 0:37:21.

• Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.▶ 0:21:42: Outlined FY2026 budget goals of cutting chronic disease, cutting costs, and preserving Medicare/Medicaid/Head Start▶ 0:22:07; said the U.S. spends $4.5 trillion annually on health care▶ 0:23:01; said no funding for lifesaving NIH research is being withheld and pledged to spend appropriated funds▶ 0:37:21▶ 0:38:39; discussed reorganization consolidating nine women's health offices and multiple minority-health/HIV offices▶ 0:41:56; announced food dye phase-outs agreed with manufacturers▶ 1:00:19; and said an estimated 291,000 unaccompanied migrant children are missing under the prior administration's vetting failures▶ 1:48:02.

• Rep. (unspecified, brief interjection re: "another committee meeting")▶ 0:27:37: A member briefly noted leaving for another committee meeting; not otherwise identified.

• Rep. Mark Pocan (D-WI)▶ 1:03:38: Pressed Kennedy on whether he would personally vaccinate a child for measles, chickenpox, or polio, and Kennedy repeatedly declined to answer directly▶ 1:04:50; raised concerns about removal of the LGBTQ+ youth button from the 988 hotline▶ 1:06:46 and Medicare Advantage overpayments estimated at $80 billion▶ 1:08:24.

• Rep. Stephanie Bice (R-OK)▶ 1:09:21: Highlighted the Oklahoma Medical Research Foundation's biomedical research center▶ 1:10:10 and asked how HHS will keep the U.S. competitive in biotech research▶ 1:11:58.

• Rep. (Lois Frankel, D-FL)▶ 1:15:38: Said the administration's cuts amount to "a tornado hitting a populated community"▶ 1:17:20, asked whether any member of Congress was consulted before cuts were made, and Kennedy said no▶ 1:19:31.

• Rep. (Kelly Moore, R-WV)▶ 1:21:53: Thanked Kennedy for reinstating 328 NIOSH employees, including the coal workers health surveillance program in Morgantown▶ 1:22:16▶ 1:22:58.

• Rep. Bonnie Watson Coleman (D-NJ)▶ 1:25:11: Said Black women die from childbirth complications at a far higher rate than any other high-income country▶ 1:26:52, accused the administration of banning words like "race" and "disparity" from grant applications▶ 1:25:36, and pressed Kennedy on cuts to the LIHEAP program▶ 1:29:46.

• Rep. (unspecified member, LIHEAP/China biotech questions)▶ 1:32:11: Submitted an article on Chinese Communist Party biotech dominance for the record▶ 1:32:31 and asked Kennedy about reducing reliance on China for medicines▶ 1:33:31.

• Rep. Madeleine Dean (D-PA)▶ 1:39:42: Described her son's 12-year recovery from opioid addiction▶ 1:40:33, cited a 27% national drop in overdose deaths (to 81,000)▶ 1:41:28, and repeatedly challenged Kennedy on shifting SAMHSA into the new Administration for Healthy America▶ 1:43:22.

• Rep. Andrew Clyde (R-GA)▶ 1:45:44: Asked how many children have gone missing after release by HHS, and Kennedy cited an estimate of 291,000, possibly up to half a million▶ 1:48:02.

• Rep. (Harder-referenced, likely Rep. Josh Harder, D-CA)▶ 1:51:38: Discussed the cost of his own addiction treatment (~$286,000 in today's dollars)▶ 1:52:29, said the proposed Medicaid budget would leave 50,000 people in his district without insurance▶ 1:52:59, and disputed Kennedy's claims about Medicaid fraud driving cuts▶ 1:53:50.

• Rep. Robert Aderholt / another Republican member ("Dr. Paris")▶ 1:57:08: Discussed nutrition policy and cited a WashU study linking fructose intake to cancer-promoting metabolites▶ 1:59:56.

• Rep. (Navy veteran member)▶ 2:02:41: Described witnessing child trafficking at the border and asked what HHS is doing to locate missing migrant children▶ 2:04:17.

• Rep. Julia Letlow (R-LA)▶ 2:07:55: Raised gaps in women's health research, citing nearly 30,000 new Louisiana cancer cases this year including 4,230 breast cancer cases▶ 2:08:22, and asked about rural health deserts in Louisiana's Delta region▶ 2:11:08.

Key moments

• DeLauro said the administration cut NIH research funding by $2.7 billion (a 35% reduction), including a 31% cut to cancer research, versus the same period last year▶ 0:35:34.

• Sharp, repeated exchange: DeLauro demanded Kennedy commit to obligating all 2025 congressionally appropriated NIH funds by September 30; Kennedy repeatedly answered "if you appropriate the money, I'm going to spend that" without directly addressing the proposed $18–20 billion cut▶ 0:37:21.

• Kennedy said the U.S. has about 1,100 measles cases with growth "plateaued," compared favorably to Mexico, Canada, and Western Europe's roughly 6,000 cases▶ 0:36:29.

• Kennedy revealed HHS is under a court order (effective 4:00 p.m. the prior day) barring further reorganization planning or detailed discussion of what programs were cut▶ 0:41:02.

• Rep. Pocan asked Kennedy three times whether he would vaccinate his own child against measles, chickenpox, and polio; Kennedy declined to answer each time, saying his opinions were "irrelevant"▶ 1:04:50.

• Rep. Watson Coleman said the administration has moved to ban words including "black," "race," "bias," and "disparity" from federal grant applications▶ 1:25:36; exchange ended combatively with Watson Coleman saying "so has your legitimacy"▶ 1:30:16.

• Kennedy said 291,000 unaccompanied migrant children are missing per the HHS Inspector General's office, calling it a "very low estimate" that could reach half a million▶ 1:48:02, and described specific trafficking cases from a Florida grand jury report▶ 1:48:32.

• Kennedy said Medicaid cuts target fraud including roughly 1 million people claiming Medicaid in multiple states and another million enrolled in both Medicaid and ACA marketplace plans▶ 1:53:50; Rep. Harder disputed that characterization and cited 13 million Americans projected to lose coverage▶ 1:55:17.

• Kennedy said food dye reforms secured industry agreement to phase out Red No. 3 and Orange B within two months and seven other dyes within two years▶ 1:00:19.

• DeLauro closed by noting the FY2026 budget eliminates the CDC's Breast and Cervical Cancer early detection program▶ 2:14:24 and cited NIH achievements including the Human Genome Project, CRISPR, and mRNA/COVID vaccines as evidence against Kennedy's framing of NIH as failed▶ 2:17:16.

Metadata

CommitteeHouse Appropriations Subcommittee on Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, Education, and Related Agencies
Chamber / CongressHouse · 119th Congress
DateMay 14, 2025
TypeHearing
Witnesses
The Honorable Robert Kennedy — Secretary, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services
Videoyoutube
Transcript310 caption blocks · 21,715 words · 2:23:11 runtime
EventCongress.gov 118230