Oversight Hearing – U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement

Immigration Enforcement and Sanctuary PoliciesHouse Appropriations Subcommittee on Department of Homeland Security · 2025-05-14 · 119th Congress
The House Appropriations Subcommittee on Homeland Security held this oversight hearing to examine ICE's operational priorities and resource needs ahead of the full fiscal year 2026 budget request, with Acting Director Todd Lyons as the sole witness. Begins at 0:02:43
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Highlights

Title

ICE budget oversight: detention beds, funding shortfall, and deaths in custody

Purpose

The House Appropriations Subcommittee on Homeland Security held this oversight hearing to examine ICE's operational priorities and resource needs ahead of the full fiscal year 2026 budget request, with Acting Director Todd Lyons as the sole witness. Members questioned Lyons on detention bed capacity, reliance on an unpassed reconciliation bill, deaths in ICE custody, denial of congressional oversight access, and sanctuary city policies. Begins at0:02:43

Who spoke

Chairman Mark Amodei (R-NV)0:02:43: Opened the hearing, framing its focus on ICE's operational priorities and resource requirements ahead of the FY26 budget request0:02:43, and noted he tries to limit opening statements from agency heads0:08:22.

Rep. Lauren Underwood (D-IL), Ranking Member0:03:09: Criticized a shift toward "politically driven goals" like a million removals a year0:03:58, cited a raid on a US citizen family's home in Oklahoma where agents allegedly confiscated cash and devices0:04:27, said ICE is roughly two months from running out of funds and risking an Anti-Deficiency Act violation0:06:32, and said ICE blocked members of Congress from an unannounced inspection at Delaney Hall in New Jersey0:07:24.

Todd Lyons, Acting Director, ICE0:08:22: Said ICE has arrested more than 88,000 aliens in 2025, a 39% increase over the same period in FY24, with 65% of arrests after January 200:09:49; cited 1.8 million removal hearings and 280,000 removal orders obtained by ICE attorneys in FY240:10:41; said counting on reconciliation "is not a plan"0:12:54; said total deaths in ICE custody stand at nine0:16:38; said ICE is forecasting toward 100,000 detention beds but lacks the funding now0:48:56; said 69 detainees are currently held at Fort Bliss0:49:53 and ICE anticipates up to 60,000 additional beds online by the start of the fourth quarter0:51:13.

Rep. Ashley Hinson (R-IA)0:17:35: Asked about challenges from sanctuary city policies blocking detainer requests and database access0:18:59, and about tools needed for HSI to combat Chinese Communist Party-linked trade crimes, citing her Protecting American Industry and Labor from International Trade Crimes Act0:22:01.

Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-TX)0:22:50: Discussed the Border Enforcement Security Task Force (BEST) program's expansion0:23:20, asked about the roughly 1.1 million final deportation orders still outstanding0:24:57, referenced Section 527 language he authored guaranteeing member access to detention facilities without notice0:26:21, and urged more support staff so agents aren't doing administrative work0:27:53.

Rep. Juan Ciscomani (R-AZ)0:28:21: Described visiting the Eloy detention facility in his district0:28:50, asked what resources ICE needs to reach the goal of a million removals a year0:30:18, and asked about growth in the 287(g) program, which Lyons said increased over 300%0:32:54.

Rep. Ed Case (D-HI)0:33:22: Questioned the proposed roughly $43 billion (65%) DHS budget increase reliant on reconciliation alongside base-budget cuts to FEMA, CISA, and TSA0:33:52, asked where ICE anticipates the greatest financial stresses (Lyons cited detention space and removal contracts)0:35:45, and pressed on preservation of HSI's roughly 90 offices in 50 countries, including Indo-Pacific counterintelligence work0:36:45.

Rep. Tony Gonzales (R-TX)0:38:37: Raised staffing shortages of civilian coordinators supporting repatriation flights at Fort Bliss/Biggs Airfield0:38:37, asked how many flights and removals have occurred there (Lyons cited 55 missions the prior day)0:40:28, and discussed the value of HSI task forces, citing Secretary Noem's figure of over 600,000 convicted criminal aliens at large0:42:52.

Rep. Veronica Escobar (D-TX)0:43:47: Said reporting shows enforcement is not focused on "the worst of the worst," citing students and legal-status individuals detained0:44:12; said most ICE funding flows to private detention contractors and cited a 27-day-old infant's death and severe child weight loss in custody0:45:52; cited an $80 billion reconciliation increase producing a 365% rise in detention funding and 500% rise in transportation funding0:46:51; pressed on total beds and cost per bed under reconciliation0:47:22 and on Fort Bliss bed counts (Lyons said approximately 3,500)0:49:23.

A subcommittee member (unnamed in transcript)0:49:53: Asked how many detention beds DoD supports across military installations, whether DoD will bill ICE for facilities and airlift (Lyons said no bill is expected)0:50:44, and closed by urging Lyons to ensure timely information-sharing with the committee0:52:11.

Key moments

Underwood said ICE's current bed count exceeded 52,000 last week against a funded level of 41,500 beds, and warned ICE is one to two months from running out of funds absent reconciliation0:12:300:12:54.

Lyons confirmed total deaths in ICE custody have reached nine since January 20, 2025, with investigations underway by the Office of Professional Responsibility and local jurisdictions0:16:38.

Underwood and Lyons disputed DHS's characterization of a New Jersey oversight visit as members "illegally breaking in" to Delaney Hall; Lyons acknowledged members have a legal right to unannounced inspections under Section 532 of the 2020 Consolidated Appropriations Act0:14:430:15:42.

Lyons said ICE has arrested 95% more suspected gang members, 655 more known or suspected terrorists, and 46% more aliens with pending criminal charges since January 200:10:12.

Escobar cited an $80 billion reconciliation-driven increase producing a 365% jump in detention funding and 500% jump in transportation funding annually0:46:51, while Lyons said ICE is forecasting 100,000 beds but currently lacks the funding to support that0:48:56.

Lyons said ICE is not expecting DoD to bill it for military base facilities or airlift used in detention/repatriation operations, despite the funding coming from DoD's budget0:50:440:51:13.

Cuellar noted ICE's high detention standards are "cost prohibitive" for many local law enforcement agencies to partner on0:27:31.

Lyons said HSI achieved its first terrorism-material-support indictment in San Diego the night before the hearing0:24:57.

Escobar said the administration's claimed focus on "the worst of the worst" is contradicted by reporting on detentions of students and legally present individuals0:44:40.

A member closed by telling Lyons that delayed budget information from ICE "is not useful," urging real-time updates given Anti-Deficiency Act concerns0:52:38.

Metadata

CommitteeHouse Appropriations Subcommittee on Department of Homeland Security
Chamber / CongressHouse · 119th Congress
Date2025-05-14
TypeHearing
Witnesses
Todd Lyons — Acting Director, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement
Videoyoutube
Transcript116 caption blocks · 9,021 words · 0:54:03 runtime
EventCongress.gov 118240