Budget Hearing – U.S. Department of Transportation

Aviation Safety and FAA OversightHouse Appropriations Subcommittee on Departments of Transportation, and Housing and Urban Development, and Related Agencies · 2025-05-14 · 119th Congress
The House Appropriations Subcommittee on Transportation-HUD held a budget hearing with Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy to examine the department's fiscal year 2026 request of $26.7 billion, focusing heavily on air traffic control staffing and technology, the Newark airport delays, and a large backlog of unfinished grant agreements inherited from the prior administration. Begins at 0:01:19
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FY2026 DOT budget, air traffic control modernization, and grant backlog

Purpose

The House Appropriations Subcommittee on Transportation-HUD held a budget hearing with Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy to examine the department's fiscal year 2026 request of $26.7 billion, focusing heavily on air traffic control staffing and technology, the Newark airport delays, and a large backlog of unfinished grant agreements inherited from the prior administration. Members also raised rural infrastructure, port funding disparities, the Merchant Marine Academy's condition, disaster relief for California wildfires, and questions about DEI/social-justice-related grant criteria. The hearing opened with tributes to the parents of a pilot killed in the January DCA midair collision. Begins at0:01:19

Who spoke

Chairman Steve Womack (R-AR)0:01:19: Opened the hearing, outlined the $26.7 billion FY26 request including a $1.2 billion air traffic modernization increase, $596 million for ports/shipyards, and $400 million for freight rail safety0:02:15; pressed on a $4.1 billion IIJA advance-appropriations cut0:03:11 and warned against restructuring DOT without congressional notification0:04:11.

Ranking Member James Clyburn (D-SC)0:06:29: Criticized withholding of more than $40 billion in appropriated funds and workforce reductions affecting air traffic controllers0:08:14; objected to Duffy's written testimony calling past DEI programs wasteful, citing the Tuskegee Airmen and 6888th Battalion0:10:34; later challenged Duffy on how DOT defines "social justice" grant criteria tied to his own South Carolina upbringing0:29:23.

Chairman Tom Cole (R-OK), full committee0:13:16: Welcomed Duffy, emphasized safety funding shouldn't be partisan0:14:32, highlighted the Mike Monroney Aeronautical Center's controller training surge0:15:26, and later asked for an update on controller hiring numbers0:39:06.

Secretary Sean Duffy, DOT0:17:08: Testified DOT saved about $9.5 billion in its first 100 days0:17:53; said it inherited a backlog of 3,200 unfinished grant agreements0:18:23, with 10-14 different systems tracking grants that he wants consolidated0:19:12; stated no air traffic controllers have been fired or taken deferred resignation0:49:48; described a 20% salary bonus to retain controllers past 25 years and a "supercharge" academy initiative to cut the 35% washout rate0:41:24; said Newark's problems stem from last year's move of airspace control from N90 to the Philadelphia TRACON without hardened communications1:09:23.

Rep. Mark Amodei / unspecified members — (no distinct additional speaker identified beyond those below)

Rep. John Joyce (R-PA)0:34:20: Asked about disparities in Great Lakes port infrastructure funding, noting only 2% of Port Infrastructure Development Program funds went there versus 70% to coastal ports0:34:49; raised FAA medical certificate processing delays0:35:57.

Rep. Norma Torres / Rep. Rich (referred to as "Mr. Rich")0:44:03: Represented California's Inland Empire district, cited only 12% of federal grants distributed0:45:01, entered a United Airlines safety-concern email into the record0:46:36, and pressed on the planned closure of the PHMSA regional office in Ontario, CA0:47:33.

Rep. Hal Rogers (R-KY)0:52:42: Cited that rural areas have 43% of traffic deaths despite 20% of population0:53:09; questioned the plan to zero out Essential Air Service funding for rural airports0:54:55.

Rep. Mike Quigley (D-IL)0:55:53: Challenged a proposed criterion giving grant preference to communities with higher marriage and birth rates, citing Urban Institute data suggesting such areas are wealthier and more car-dependent0:56:38.

Rep. Stephanie Bice (R-OK)1:01:15: Described past difficulty accessing the Monroney Center under COVID protocols1:01:40; asked about medical/security screening delays in controller hiring1:02:40 and legacy air traffic technology, referencing floppy disks1:05:18.

Rep. Bonnie Watson Coleman (D-NJ)1:08:06: Pressed Duffy on Newark airport safety, staffing, and a viral claim about his wife's flight diversion, which Duffy clarified was unrelated to safety1:08:55.

Rep. John Rutherford (R-FL)1:14:37: Asked about the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy, which Duffy said suffered four months without hot water and broken dishwashers1:15:52; discussed autonomous vehicle policy and national security concerns about Chinese-made AVs1:18:26.

Rep. Pete Aguilar (D-CA)1:20:04: Asked about California wildfire disaster relief funding status ($101 million requested)1:21:19 and federal transportation funding for the 2028 LA Olympics1:23:48.

Rep. Tony Gonzales (R-TX)1:26:12: Asked about commercial space travel permitting streamlining1:27:02 and rural highway infrastructure near oil/gas regions, citing "Death Highway" in Reeves County1:28:26.

Rep. Adriano Espaillat (D-NY)1:31:15: Noted industry experts say $30 billion is needed for ATC modernization versus the $18 billion skinny budget request1:32:22; pressed Duffy to confirm full funding grant agreements will be honored1:35:06.

Rep. Ryan Zinke (R-MT)1:37:30: Raised rural bridge conditions, citing Montana's 1922 Noxon Bridge1:37:58; advocated for drone/UAV airspace integration1:39:22; suggested the Merchant Marine Academy go to the Navy rather than State or Marine Corps if moved1:42:10.

Rep. Juan Ciscomani (R-AZ)1:43:01: Asked about a February 19 midair collision in Marana, Arizona1:44:26 and a hazardous-materials train derailment near the Arizona-New Mexico border affecting Navajo Nation members1:46:50.

Rep. Dale Strong (R-AL)1:48:58: Asked about investment near Redstone Arsenal1:49:25 and Huntsville International Airport, DOT's top-ranked small airport1:50:15.

Rep. Cole (second round)1:55:27: Urged continued investment in tribal roads, noting the federal obligation is about 1% of the budget but historically neglected1:55:58.

Unnamed member (referred to as Mr. Sage in transcript)1:57:49: Followed up on the PHMSA office closure, submitting an AP article into the record and stressing bipartisan safety concerns1:58:02.

Key moments

Duffy said DOT inherited a backlog of 3,200 grant awards from the prior administration and has cleared only about 480 (roughly 15%) so far, citing 10-14 disconnected tracking systems0:19:120:24:54.

Clyburn directly confronted Duffy over written testimony calling DEI a "waste of money," invoking the Tuskegee Airmen and the 6888th Central Postal Directory Battalion0:10:34; Duffy responded he was referring specifically to DOT equity requirements, not the broader history, and cited the *Adarand* decision0:32:370:33:52.

Duffy stated flatly "we have not fired... haven't let any one air traffic controller go" and "not one, not 400, zero," disputing Rep. Rich's claim that 400 controllers were fired via deferred resignation0:49:480:50:19.

Duffy said the FAA's radar systems date to the 1970s, with newer units from the "early 80s," and described slowing down new fiber-optic lines because old facility equipment can't handle full speed1:06:111:06:39.

Rep. Espaillat noted industry experts estimate $30 billion is needed for ATC modernization versus the administration's $18 billion "skinny budget" request; Duffy acknowledged "yeah, you're right, it's not here" and said Congress will need to add funding1:32:461:34:38.

Duffy said up to 40% of infrastructure project spending goes to consultants and permitting, and that cutting this to 15% would free up significant construction funding1:29:26.

Rep. Quigley challenged a proposed budget criterion giving "preference to communities with marriage and birth rates higher than the national average," citing Urban Institute data suggesting wealthier, more car-dependent census tracts would benefit, contrary to public-transit needs0:56:380:58:26.

Duffy said the academy's controller washout rate is 35%, and reducing it to 25% could yield "another couple hundred" controllers a year; he is offering a 20% upfront salary bonus to retain experienced controllers past 25 years0:41:510:42:44.

Duffy said the Merchant Marine Academy at Kings Point went four months without hot water and students are eating off paper plates due to a broken dishwasher, calling the facility "unworthy to have the name America associated with it"1:16:19.

Rep. Joyce said only 2% of Port Infrastructure Development Program funds went to Great Lakes ports last year versus 70% to coastal ports; Duffy said MARAD told him there is no disparity but he would investigate further0:34:490:35:39.

Metadata

CommitteeHouse Appropriations Subcommittee on Departments of Transportation, and Housing and Urban Development, and Related Agencies
Chamber / CongressHouse · 119th Congress
Date2025-05-14
TypeHearing
Witnesses
The Honorable Sean Duffy — Secretary, U.S. Department of Transportation
Videoyoutube
Transcript284 caption blocks · 21,684 words · 2:06:39 runtime
EventCongress.gov 118247