Mass Gathering Events: Assessing Security Coordination and Preparedness

DHS Budget and Border OversightHomeland Security Subcommittee on Emergency Management and Technology · 2025-05-21 · 119th Congress
The Homeland Security Subcommittee on Emergency Management and Technology held this hearing to examine how federal, state, local, and private-sector partners coordinate security for mass gathering events, with particular focus on the 2025/2026 FIFA World Cup and the 2028 Los Angeles Olympics. Begins at 0:09:33
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Security preparedness for the FIFA World Cup, Olympics, and mass gatherings

Purpose

The Homeland Security Subcommittee on Emergency Management and Technology held this hearing to examine how federal, state, local, and private-sector partners coordinate security for mass gathering events, with particular focus on the 2025/2026 FIFA World Cup and the 2028 Los Angeles Olympics. Witnesses from a major sheriff's office, Live Nation Entertainment, and the Southeastern Conference discussed fusion centers, counter-drone authority, vehicle-ramming threats, and federal grant funding. Begins at0:09:33

Who spoke

Chairman Michael Strong (R-AL)0:09:33: Opened the hearing on security coordination for mass gatherings, citing the New Orleans Bourbon Street attack0:10:51 and noting the committee's reconciliation package included $625 million for 2026 World Cup preparedness and $1 billion for the Olympics0:12:49; later asked witnesses what Congress can do to support preparedness0:39:08.

Ranking Member Kennedy (D-MA)0:15:17: Opened by remembering the late Rep. Gerry Connolly0:15:42, raised concerns about a proposed 27% cut to NOAA and its effect on tornado forecasting0:18:20, and pressed Sheriff Barnes on proposed $646 million cuts to FEMA non-disaster grants and closure of the National Fire Academy0:20:070:47:09.

Sheriff Donald Barnes, Orange County Sheriff's Department0:23:46: Testified that fusion centers, ICS/NIMS standardization, and counter-UAS authority are top priorities0:25:410:27:29; described an incident of a drone flown near John Wayne Airport that could not be intercepted0:39:57; warned that cartels are using drones and counter-drone technology against the U.S.0:40:21; said losing Yasi/Shishgap/Stone Garden funding would shut down his fusion center's FIFA-related intelligence work0:46:24.

John Junell, Chief Security Officer, Live Nation Entertainment0:28:52: Said Live Nation hosted more than 54,000 events and 151 million fans in 20240:29:19; asked Congress to lower the TFR-eligibility threshold to 10,000 attendees for outdoor events and to expand counter-drone mitigation authority to local law enforcement0:32:210:33:13.

Jeremy Hammond, Assistant Commissioner, Southeastern Conference0:33:40: Noted five SEC schools averaged 100,000 fans at 2024 home games0:35:47 but that college events rarely score above a 4-5 on the SEIER rating system, disqualifying them from federal interagency support0:36:16; urged review of the SEIER methodology and streamlined drone-mitigation authority0:38:14.

Rep. Jeff Crank/Evans of Colorado0:49:46 (referred to as "Mr. Evans" in transcript): Entered an AUVSI security-recommendations statement into the record0:49:46; questioned Sheriff Barnes on tactical-level shortcomings in equipment, training, and communication during live events0:50:45, citing the Palisades fire drone incident0:54:31.

Rep. McKenzie (R-PA)0:55:26: Asked Junell about security at midsize Live Nation venues0:55:53 and asked all witnesses whether the country is on track for 2026 readiness0:57:08.

Rep. Correa (D-CA)1:00:23: Questioned Sheriff Barnes on the scope of international and domestic terrorism threats to Orange County1:00:531:01:15 and on fusion centers' expanding role covering drones, AI, and misinformation1:02:02.

Rep. Poe (D-NJ)1:05:24: Noted the World Cup final will be played in her New Jersey district1:06:13 and pressed Barnes on how delays in Homeland Security Grant Program funding affect preparedness1:07:37, and on the threat from homegrown violent extremists1:09:23.

Rep. Johnson (D-TX)1:11:23: Highlighted Dallas hosting nine World Cup matches as a broadcast hub1:11:51, criticized proposed cuts to FEMA preparedness grants and elimination of the National Domestic Preparedness Consortium, which trained nearly 12,000 in her district1:12:20, and asked witnesses about remaining security gaps1:15:01.

Key moments

Strong noted the reconciliation bill included $625 million for 2026 World Cup security and $1 billion for the Olympics, and cited an estimated 6.5 million fans traveling for 76 World Cup matches in 11 cities0:11:430:12:49.

Barnes described an incident where a drone flew within hundreds of feet of departing aircraft at John Wayne Airport, and law enforcement had no ability to locate or mitigate it, eventually identifying the operator through his own social media posts0:39:330:39:57.

Barnes warned that Mexican cartels, designated foreign terrorist organizations, are using drones and counter-drone technology against the U.S. and that this capability is expected to spread domestically0:40:210:40:35.

Junell said the FAA now has more than 1 million registered drones nationwide, a 160% increase since 2019, and that Live Nation lacks legal authority to counter drone threats itself0:30:10.

Hammond disclosed SEC schools can spend upward of $500,000 on drone-tracking technology yet have no legal authority to intervene against a hostile drone0:37:15.

Kennedy pressed Barnes on proposed cuts: a 27% cut to NOAA0:18:20 and a $646 million cut to FEMA non-disaster grants0:20:07, and noted DHS Secretary Noem has stated an intent to eliminate FEMA0:48:35.

Barnes said the Northern California Regional Intelligence Center is 100% funded through FEMA's Shishgap/Yasi grants, and losing that funding would end intelligence vetting ahead of the FIFA World Cup0:46:24.

Barnes cited the Palisades fire, where a firefighting aircraft was grounded for three days after a drone strike, potentially costing structures that could have been saved0:54:31.

Johnson noted her district's National Domestic Preparedness Consortium training reached almost 12,000 participants at no cost to the city, funding the administration's budget proposes eliminating1:12:201:12:42.

Hammond said the largest recurring mass-gathering events in the country — major college football games — rarely score above a 4 or 5 on the federal SEIER rating system, disqualifying them from interagency federal support despite drawing over 100,000 fans0:36:160:36:46.

Metadata

CommitteeHomeland Security Subcommittee on Emergency Management and Technology
Chamber / CongressHouse · 119th Congress
Date2025-05-21
TypeHearing
Witnesses
The Honorable Donald Barnes — Sheriff-Coroner, Orange County Sheriff's Department
Mr. John Junell — Chief Security Officer, Live Nation Entertainment
Mr. Jeremy Hammond — Assistant Commissioner, Southeastern Conference
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Transcript156 caption blocks · 11,425 words · 1:18:12 runtime
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