▶ 0:34:53Okay, the committee will now come to order. Let me start um out of courtesy for my colleagues on both sides of the aisle. Um, thank you for your patience uh and and for being flexible and I uh sincerely apologize for the inconvenience. I never want to cut uh your time short with your families because it's so uh precious and and few those moments. Uh I know that as a dad of three young children.
▶ 0:35:21So anyway, I know it this it, you know, will happen, I'm sure, on both sides from time to time, but um I wanted just to acknowledge that and if there's any way in the future that we can avoid uh these things, you know, I will you know, I'll do it, Mr. Ranking members. So, um any any quick comment? Yeah, Mr. Chair, if um don't mind, I do have just a couple uh parliamentary inquiries. Obviously, this is highly unusual.
▶ 0:35:47um the fact that uh we recessed after a failed vote Friday morning around lunchtime Friday. Now we're back here late Sunday night. So presumably uh we are voting again because some folks uh on your side of the aisle may have changed their mind due to some side agreements. So my parliamentary inquiry is will the committee be able to see what side agreements have been reached?
▶ 0:36:15Will they be added as either MTI or just here verbally uh reflecting the ways in which now apparently the bill has changed? The deliberations have uh continued up to this point where we judge this u uh this uh reconciliation bill or the many component parts uh as it relates to the budget targets that we've set and that is what we're voting on.
▶ 0:36:42deliberations continue uh to this uh at this very moment, they will continue on into the week and I suspect right up until the time we put this uh uh big beautiful bill on the floor of the house. So um that that that that's what we're here to do and we're not going to uh disclose uh the deliberations. I'm not sure I could disclose all the deliberations if if I might. I I certainly would. I don't know anything about side deals or any deals.
▶ 0:37:11I just know we're at a place where we can take a vote today and uh and not have to be back here for multiple votes. Yeah. I I would just in the interest of transparency if the bill has changed and there's been some side agreement reached, I I think it's important that all the members have the full details uh on that in advance of any vote. So that way we know in a transparent honest way exactly what we're voting on. you will get it in the manager's amendment like uh like many of the or like most of the members here.
▶ 0:37:41So I couldn't tell you uh what is in flux, what is fixed, what might change or not change. As you all well know, this process is fluid and uh it will go to the rules committee. Most likely there will be some changes and that's the way the process goes. So I know you appreciate that uh having before many times. Well, well, I haven't had the opportunity to be uh be chair, but I I very much look forward to uh to that a year and a half from now.
▶ 0:38:13Um finally, my other parliamentary inquiry and a very again a very serious point. As you know, the n we all operate under the 1974 budget and empowerment control act. It's what set up these committees, what set up congressional budget office requires a CBO score. We don't have uh unless something has has happened this weekend. I'm unaware of we don't have that CBO and score in front of us.
▶ 0:38:38Do you know when we will get the CBO score both of the budget bill that we're voting in front of us and uh the scoring of any uh changes that it looks like are going to happen. I'm uh I will look into the timing of any outstanding CBO scores and I'm certain that uh if there are outstanding scores that those uh will be disclosed before uh our members vote before our members collectively both Democrats and Republicans before you vote on
▶ 0:39:08the floor. Yeah. Yeah. But just like let's appreciate how far we've come and I since you're asking me these I think relevant questions. We didn't even have the last time we did reconciliation and the Democrats were in charge and had unified control of Congress. It never even went through regular order, didn't even come to this committee so that we could even have this dialogue. We couldn't even have asked that. We end up we ended up having to to vote.
▶ 0:39:34I remember because it was a Saturday uh and it was it was a 10 11 hour um 101 hour markup. That concludes my parliamentary. Did the budget resolution come through this committee? It did not. They there was not a there was not a budget resolution substantive. There was a shell one, but there wasn't any substantive fiscal framework from which you all and we would judge it. I'm just saying we've run regular order.
▶ 0:40:04We've done budgets twice since I've been chair. Uh the two years that I've been chair, we'll do one this year again for 26. And we haven't done a budget in the the entire time, no disrespect, but because we're getting off topic, but not one time in the last four years was there a real budget, a 10-year budget, a budget resolution other than the shell. I I mean, and I just think, you know, I mean, we're we're doing uh the people's business uh the best we can. You may disagree with it.
▶ 0:40:34Um, and we may not have all the pieces yet pulled together, but this is I mean, we've so keep it and I I appreciate you've always been good about the fact that we have a healthy, vigorous debate here and and I think we both agree that that that's good for the process and happen to enjoy it. Um, I'm not looking to, you know, relitigate the last eight years or 20 years. I just mean on the bill that's in front of us.
▶ 0:40:57Making sure all the members know transparently just what the heck is in this thing because obviously it's changing back in that back room by the minute. And then the second thing is what exactly the score is according to CBI. I think both of those things are important for all of us and I think the roles were reversed to conclude if the roles were reversed you would be saying the same thing. No, I wouldn't but now I will. No, I'm kidding.
▶ 0:41:20No, I look we when the when when there is a definitive change, people will know that change when there are definitive changes and they will be reflected if those changes should occur in a manager's amendment. That's just how this works. So, I appreciate the inquiry and I believe it to be uh you know uh earnest and and in good faith, but that's the answer. Let's get on with this business if we if we can. Okay. Uh I now recognize the vice chairman, Mr.
▶ 0:41:48Smucker of Pennsylvania for the purposes of a motion. Mr. Chairman, I move to reconsider the vote to report the One Big Beautiful Bill Act to the House. M um Representative Smucker moves to reconsider the vote on reporting the bill. Questions now on the motion to reconsider offered by Vice Chairman Smucker. Those in favor signify by saying I. I. Those opposed signify by saying no. No.
▶ 0:42:16In the opinion of the chair, the eyes have it and the motion is agreed to. Request a reported vote. A roll call vote is requested. The clerk shall call the role. Mr. Norman, an effort to move in an effort to move this an effort to move this bill forward. I'm excited about the changes we've made. Uh, and I will vote present. What are the changes? Mr. Norman, present. Wait, what changes? Mr. Mcccleintoch, I Mr. Mcccleintoch, I. Mr.
▶ 0:42:47Mr. Growthman I Mr. Smucker Mr. Smucker I Mr. Carter I Mr. Carter I Mr. Klein I Mr. Klene I Mr. Bergman I Mr. Bergman I Mr. Roy Yeah, this is just to reconsider and then we'll have a vote on the bill itself. Yeah, Mr. Roy, how how is Mr. Norman recorded? Mr. Chair, Mr. Norman is recorded as present.
▶ 0:43:16Does the gentleman wish to change the vote? Wish to change my vote to yes. Continue. Mr. Norman is off present and on I Mr. Roy I. Mr. Sudsman. Mr. Sutsman. I Mr. Moore of Utah. Mr. Moore of Utah. I Mr. Estus. Mr. Estus. I Mr. Bkine. Mr. Bin. I Mr. Obernolulty. Mr. Obernalty. I Mr. Kerry. Mr. Kerry. I Mr. Edwards. Hi. Mr. Edwards I Mr. Clyde I Mr.
▶ 0:43:46Clyde I Miss Houchin I Miss Hchin I Mr. McDow Mr. McDow I Mr. Gill Mr. Gill I Mr. Moore of North Carolina Mr. Moore of North Carolina I Mr. Bole no Mr. Boille no Mr. Dogget Mr. Dogit no Mr. Scott Mr. Scott no Mr. Peters Mr. Peters no Mr. Petta Mr. Panetta. No. Miss Watson Coleman. No. Miss Watson Coleman. No. Miss Plasket. No. Miss Plasket.
▶ 0:44:16No. Miss Escobar. No. Miss Escobar. No. Miss Omar. No. Miss Omar. No. Miss Balant. No. Miss Balant. No. Miss Captor. No. Miss Captor. No. Miss Gyipol. Miss Gyipolaw. No. Miss Chu. No. Miss Chu. No. Mr. Tonko. No. Mr. Tonko. No. Mr. McGarvey. Mr. McGarvey? No. Mr. Almo? No. Mr. Almo? No, Mr. Chairman. Yes, Mr. Chairman.
▶ 0:44:44I Are there any members who have not voted or wish to change their vote? If not, uh the clerk will uh report. Mr. Chair, on the vote, there were 21 eyes and 16 nos. The eyes have it. The motion is agreed to. The committee will now vote to favorably report the one big beautiful bill back to the House. The gentleman for Virginia have a inquiry.
▶ 0:45:14Go ahead. According to CBO, at least one policy in the bill would reduce participation in SNAP by 3 million people. And we're hearing, we just heard that there had been changes in the bill. Do we have any official estimate from CBO on how either the present bill or the whatever the bill is we're actually voting on would um increase hunger? How many people would lose their SNAP benefits?
▶ 0:45:42I I I I think the gentleman from Virginia, I don't believe it's a parliamentarian in a parliamentary inquiry. I will tell you this, the bill has not changed. There are no formal or final changes. Um and we're voting on exactly what we presented um uh the other day, last Friday. So with that, let's continue with the further further inquiry. Last inquiry. Last inquiry I'm going to entertain. Well, do we have any estimates?
▶ 0:46:10We never got an estimate of how many children will lose school lunch certification by losing their SNAP benefits. Do we expect that information or do we care? We we debated this fully, Mr. Scott. Um, we're going to continue with the the business at hand. Um, now the committee uh uh clerk, will you call the role? Mr. Chairman, no more parliamentary inquiries. We're going to finish this business. Okay, guys.
▶ 0:46:43The reconciliation bill that we debated and that we discussed. I just asked for the for the clerk to call the role. Please state the question. Mr. Norman, present. Mr. Norman, present. Mr. Mcccleintoch, I. Mr. Mcccleintoch, I. Mr. Growthman, Mr. Growthman, I Mr. Smucker, hi. Mr. Smucker, I Mr. Carter, I. Mr. Carter, I Mr. Klein, I, Mr. Klein, I, Mr. Bergman.
▶ 0:47:13Hi, Mr. Bergman. I, Mr. Roy, present, Mr. Roy. Present, Mr. Sutsman. Hi, Mr. Studsman. I, Mr. Moore of Utah, Mr. Moore of Utah. I Mr. Estus Mr. Estus I Mr. Been Mr. Been present Mr. Obernolulty Mr. Obernolulty I Mr. Kerry Mr. Kerry I Mr. Edwards Mr. Edwards I Mr. Clyde Mr. Clyde present Miss Hchin Miss Hchin I Mr. McDall Mr. McDall I Mr. Gill Mr.
▶ 0:47:43Gil I Mr. Moore of North Carolina Mr. Moore of North Carolina I Mr. Boille no Mr. Boille no Mr. Dogget. No. Mr. Dogget. No. Mr. Scott. No. Mr. Scott. No. Mr. Peters. Mr. Peters. No. Mr. Petta. No. Mr. Petta? No. Miss Watson Coleman? No. Miss Watson Coleman? No. Miss Plasket? No. Miss Plask? No. Miss Escobar? No. Miss Escobar? No. Miss Omar? No. Miss Omar? No. Miss Balant? No. Miss Balant? No. Miss Captor?
▶ 0:48:18Miss Captor? No. Miss Gyipol. Miss Gyipol. No. Miss Chu. No. Miss Chu. No. Mr. Tonko. No. Mr. Tonko. No. Mr. McGarvey. No. Mr. McGarvey. No. Mr. Amo? No. Mr. Amo? No. Mr. Chairman? Yes. Mr. Chairman? I Are there any members who wish to change their vote or who have not voted? If not, the clerk shall report. Mr.
▶ 0:48:47Chair on the vote there were 17 eyes's 16 nos and four present. Uh the the eyes have it and the motions agreed to. The one big beautiful bill act is ordered reported favorably to the House of Representatives with a favorable recommendation. I know for the record that a quorum is present. Mr. Chair, um now that the committee has voted on the reconciliation bill, I ask for the requisite number of days for the minority to file its views. So ordered. Yes.
▶ 0:49:15So request the requisite number. Y thank you. Without objection, the motion to reconsider u has been laid on the table on the measure just reported. Staff are authorized to make any necessary technical and conforming corrections prior to filing the bill and the chair is authorized to offer motions to go to conference pursuant to clause one. House rule 22 on the bill just reported or any companion measure from the Senate. So ordered.
▶ 0:49:42We will now vote on the postponeed roll call votes on the motion to uh the motions to instruct. The committee will now vote on the motion offered by Representative Balant. The clerk will redesate the motion. Motion number one offered by Representative Motion offered by Representative Balant. The clerk will call the role. Mr. Norman, no. Mr. Norman, no. Mr. Mcccleintoch, Mr. Mcccleintoch, no. Mr. Growthman. Mr. Growthman, no. Mr. Smucker.
▶ 0:50:12Mr. Smucker. No. Mr. Carter. No. Mr. Carter. No. Mr. Klein. Mr. Klein. No. Mr. Bergman. No. Mr. Bergman. No. Mr. Roy. No. Mr. Roy. No. Mr. Stsman. No. Mr. Stsman. No. Mr. Moore of Utah. Mr. Moore of Utah? No. Mr. Estus? No. Mr. Estus? No. Mr. Bkine? Mr. Bin. No. Mr. Obernolulty. Mr. Obernolulty. No. Mr. Kerry. Mr. Carrey. No. Mr. Edwards. Mr. Edwards. No. Mr. Clyde. Mr. Clyde. No. Miss Houchin. No. Miss Hchin.
▶ 0:50:42No. Mr. McDow. Mr. McDall. No. Mr. Gill. Mr. Gill. No. Mr. Moore of North Carolina. No. Mr. Moore of North Carolina. No. Mr. Bole. Yes. Mr. Bole. I. Mr. Dogget. Yes. Mr. Dogget. I. Mr. Scott. Yes. Mr. Scott. I. Mr. Peters. Mr. Peters. I. Mr. Petta. Yes. Mr. Petta. I Miss Watson Coleman. Miss. Watson Coleman. I Miss Plask. Miss Plask. I miss Escobar. Miss Escobar. I Miss Omar. I Miss Omar.
▶ 0:51:12I Miss Balent. To protect Medicaid. Yes, Miss Balant. I Miss Captor. I Miss Captor. I Miss Gyipol. Miss Gyipol. I Miss Chu. I Miss Chu. I Mr. Tonko. Mr. Tonko. I Mr. McGarvey. Yes. Mr. McGarvey. I Mr. Almo. Yes. Mr. Amo. I Mr. Chairman. No. Mr. Chairman. No.
▶ 0:51:39Are there any members who wish to vote who haven't or to change their vote? And if not, the clerk shall report. Mr. Chair, on the vote, there were 16 eyes and 21 nos. The nos have it. The motion is not agreed to. Committee will now vote on the motion offered by Representative Amo. The clerk will read. Mr. Chairman, Mr. Chairman, could we get a statement of what the motion is? Would you please restate u uh the uh motion by representative ammo?
▶ 0:52:10Motion number two offered by representative Amo. Mr. Amo moves that the committee on the budget direct its chairman to request on behalf of the committee that the rule for consideration of the bill make an order and amendment to implement President Trump's request to raise the income tax rate for millionaires. A motion offered by Representative Amo. The clerk uh will call the role. Mr. Mr. Norman, no. Mr. Norman, no. Mr. Mcccleintoch, Mr. Mcccleintoch, no. Mr. Growthman, Mr. Growthman, no. Mr. Smucker, no. Mr.
▶ 0:52:40Smucker, no. Mr. Carter, no. Mr. Carter, no. Mr. Klein, Mr. Klein, no. Mr. Bergman, no. Mr. Bergman, no. Mr. Roy, no. Mr. Roy, no. Mr. Susman, no. Mr. Susman, no. Mr. Moore of Utah. Mr. Moore of Utah? No. Mr. Estus? No. Mr. Estus? No. Mr. Bkin? Mr. Bkine? No. Mr. Obernolulty? Mr. Obernalty? No. Mr. Kerry? Mr. Kerry? No. Mr. Edwards. Mr. Edwards. No. Mr. Clyde. Mr. Clyde. No. Miss Houchin. Miss Houchin. No. Mr. McDow. Mr. McDow. No.
▶ 0:53:10Mr. Gill. Mr. Gill. No. Mr. Moore of North Carolina. Mr. Moore of North Carolina. No. Mr. Bole. I. Mr. Bole. I. Mr. Dogget. Hi. Mr. Dogget. I Mr. Scott. Hi. Mr. Scott. I Mr. Peters. Mr. Peters. I Mr. Petta. Mr. Petta. I Miss Watson Coleman. I Miss Watson Coleman. I Miss Plask. I Miss Plask. I Miss Escobar. Hi Miss Escobar. I Miss Omar. I Miss Omar. I Miss Balant. I Miss Balant. I Miss Captor.
▶ 0:53:39I really don't understand why this doesn't include billionaires, but I'll vote. I Miss Captor. I miss Gyipol. It was y'all's amendment. Miss Gryel. I miss Chu. I. Miss Chu. I. Mr. Tonko. I. Mr. Tonko. I Mr. McGarvey. I. Mr. McGarvey. I Mr. Amo. I. Mr. Rammo. I Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman. No. Any member wish to change their vote or any member who who hasn't voted who'd like to vote?
▶ 0:54:06Uh if not, the clerk uh will call the report. Mr. Chair, on the vote, there were 16 eyes and 21 nos. The nos have it. The motion is not agreed to. The committee will now vote on the motion offered by Representative McGarvey. And if you'd restate the motion, I think that's appropriate, Bobby. So, if you'd restate that motion uh and redesate that motion for the purposes of our vote. Motion number three, oper offered by Representative McGarvey. Mr.
▶ 0:54:35McGarvey moves that the committee on the budget direct its chairman to request on behalf of the committee that the rule for consideration of the bill make an order and amendment to strike all sections of the bill estimated by the Congressional Budget Office to reduce participation in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance If the clerk will call the vote, Mr. Mr. Norman, no. Mr. Norman, no. Mr. Mcccleintoch, Mr. Mcccleintoch, no. Mr. Growthman, Mr. Growthman, no. Mr. Smucker. Mr. Smucker, no. Mr. Carter, no. Mr. Carter, no.
▶ 0:55:05Mr. Klein, no. Mr. Klein, no. Mr. Bergman, no. Mr. Bergman, no. Mr. Roy, no. Mr. Roy, no. Mr. Stsman, no. Mr. Stsman, no. Mr. Moore of Utah. Mr. Moore of Utah? No. Mr. Estus? No. Mr. Estus? No. Mr. Bkine? No. Mr. Bkine? No. Mr. Obernolulty? Mr. Obernalty? No. Mr. Kerry? Mr. Carrie. No. Mr. Edwards. Mr. Edwards. No. Mr. Clyde. Mr. Clyde. No. Miss Houchin. Miss Houchin. No. Mr. McDow. Mr. McDow. No. Mr. Gill. Mr. Gil. No.
▶ 0:55:35Mr. Moore of North Carolina. Mr. Moore of North Carolina. No. Mr. Bole. I. Mr. Bole. I. Mr. Dogget. Hi. Mr. Dogget. I. Mr. Scott. Hi. Mr. Scott. I. Mr. Peters. Mr. Peters. I Mr. Petta. Yes. Mr. Petta. I Miss Watson Coleman. Yes. Miss Watson Coleman. I Miss Plask. Yes, Miss Plasket. I Miss Escobar. I Miss Escobar. I Miss Omar. I Miss Omar. I Miss Balant. Yes, Miss Balant. I Miss Captor. I Miss Captor. I Miss Gryaw.
▶ 0:56:06Miss Gryaw. I Miss Chu. I Miss Chu. I Mr. Tonko. I Mr. Tonko. I Mr. McGarvey. Yes. Mr. McGarvey. I Mr. Rammo. I. Mr. Rammo. I Mr. Chairman. No. Mr. Chairman, no. Any member wish to change their vote or vote who haven't voted? If not, the clerk shall report. Mr. Chair, on the vote, there were 16 eyes's and 21 nos. The nos have it. The motion's not agreed to.
▶ 0:56:33The committee will now vote on the motion offered by uh Representative Jipal. And if you would again restate uh what that motion to direct is as you redesate the motion. Motion number four offered by Representative Gyipal. Miss Jipal moves that the committee on the budget direct its chairman to request on behalf of the committee that the rule for consideration of the bill include a point of order prohibiting the use of a current policy baseline to estimate the effects of a future amendment between the houses or conference report on the bill.
▶ 0:57:04This is the one you found very compelling, Mr. Chairman. It was compelling, I must admit. So there's another chance to vote yes on it. Even after I've slept a couple nights, it was compelling. Um, but I'm a great show of bipartisan clairman. Mr. Norman, Mr. Norman, no. Mr. Mcccleintoch, no. Mr. Mcccleintoch, no. Mr. Growthman, Mr. Growthman, no. Mr. Smucker, Mr. Smucker, no. Mr. Carter, no. Mr. Carter, no. Mr. Klein, Mr. Klein, no. Mr. Bergman, Mr. Bergman, no. Mr.
▶ 0:57:34Roy, Mr. Roy, no. Mr. Stsman, Mr. Stsman, no. Mr. Moore of Utah. Mr. Moore of Utah? No. Mr. Estus? No. Mr. Estus? No. Mr. Bin, Mr. Mr. Been. No. Mr. Obernolulty. Mr. Obernalty. No. Mr. Kerry. Mr. Carrey. No. Mr. Edwards. Mr. Edwards. No. Mr. Clyde. Mr. Clyde. No. Miss Houchin. Miss Houchin. No. Mr. McDow. Mr. McDow. No. Mr. Gil. Mr. Gil. No. Mr. Moore of North Carolina. Mr. Moore of North Carolina. No. Mr. Bole. I.
▶ 0:58:04Mr. Bole. I. Mr. Dogget. Mr. Dogget. I. Mr. Scott. Mr. Scott. I. Mr. Peters. Mr. Peters. I. Mr. Petta. Mr. Petta. I Miss Watson Coleman Miss Watson Coleman. I Miss Plask. Miss Plasket. I Miss Escobar. I Miss Escobar. I Miss Omar. I Miss Omar. I Miss Balant. I Miss Balant. I Miss Captor. Hi, Miss Captor. I Miss Gyipol. Hi, Miss Gipol. I Miss Chu, I Miss Chu, I Mr.
▶ 0:58:33Tonko, I Mr. Tonko, I Mr. McGarvey, I Mr. McGarvey, I Mr. Amo, Mr. Almo, I Mr. Chairman, no Mr. Chairman. No. Are there any members who wish to change their vote or vote if they haven't voted? If not, uh, the clerk shall report. Mr. Chair, on the vote, there were 16 eyes's and 21 nos. The nos have it. The motion's not agreed to. That concludes the business of the committee today.
▶ 0:59:02I want to thank the ranking member, Mr. Bole, for working with me to make this meeting go as smoothly as it did. Um, considering all things considered. I also want to thank the congressional budget office, the office of legislative counsel uh for working with us and uh authorizing committees all the authorizing committees in this process. Uh the CBO provided extensive support and scoring and the instructed committee's legislative recommendation.
▶ 0:59:28The office legislative council similarly played a fundamental role in drafting the legislative text. Uh I know a lot of long hours went into uh hitting our aggressive timeline and we all appreciate uh their role in this process. Well, tonight the House Budget Committee took a critical step to passing the one big beautiful bill act and making President Trump's America first vision a reality for the American people. So let's go forth and deliver on what we promised the American people.
▶ 0:59:55Since you gave a brief close, I think that was kind I'd like to kind of end on that one. Well, I respectfully disagree and this will not be extended. You only spoke for a few sentences, so I'll keep it very short. Obviously, the members on this side have a a completely different view based on at least what was in the bill uh as of Friday. And what I certainly think will be their CBO saying 13,700,000 Americans at least will lose their health care because of this bill for billionaires that was passed.
▶ 1:00:26We will continue to fight it on on our side of the aisle. Well, with that, ladies and gentlemen, we're journ