Supporting Farmers, Strengthening Conservation, Sustaining Working Lands

Farm Economy and USDA OversightHouse · June 5, 2025 · 119th Congress
The House Agriculture Subcommittee on Conservation, Research, and Biotechnology held this hearing to examine Farm Bill Title II conservation programs — including EQIP, CSP, RCPP, ACEP, and the small watershed program — and to discuss reforms and funding ahead of a new farm bill. Begins at ▶ 0:09:48
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Title

Farm Bill conservation programs: funding, staffing, and technical assistance

Purpose

The House Agriculture Subcommittee on Conservation, Research, and Biotechnology held this hearing to examine Farm Bill Title II conservation programs — including EQIP, CSP, RCPP, ACEP, and the small watershed program — and to discuss reforms and funding ahead of a new farm bill. Witnesses from the Texas Farm Bureau, Ducks Unlimited, the National Watershed Coalition, American Farmland Trust, and the Hawaii Cattlemen's Council testified on program design, technical assistance shortages, and the proposed reallocation of unobligated Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) conservation funding into permanent baseline funding. Begins at▶ 0:09:48

Who spoke

• Chairman Frank Lucas (R-OK)▶ 0:10:17: Opened by tracing conservation policy back to the 1930s Dust Bowl and creation of the Soil Conservation Service▶ 0:11:48; described the committee's bill reallocating unobligated IRA funds into Title II baseline funding▶ 0:12:55 and later questioned witnesses on watershed rehabilitation▶ 0:53:27 and application simplification▶ 0:56:12.

• Ranking Member Jill Tokuda (D-HI)▶ 0:15:39: Argued USDA conservation programs are chronically underfunded and oversubscribed▶ 0:16:48, defended the IRA's "urgency and scale" as different from ordinary baseline funding▶ 0:17:16, and later pressed witnesses on the cancellation of the Partnerships for Climate-Smart Commodities program▶ 0:58:05 and NRCS staffing/CTA cuts▶ 1:01:19.

• Chairman Glenn "GT" Thompson (R-PA), full committee chair▶ 0:19:27: Praised Title II's voluntary, locally-led model▶ 0:19:55 and described reinvesting unobligated IRA funds into the baseline via reconciliation▶ 1:25:40; later questioned Boening on the value of these investments and removing IRA "climate sideboards"▶ 1:26:06▶ 1:28:04.

• Ranking Member Angie Craig (D-MN), full committee ranking member▶ 0:21:33: Cited over $875 million in NRCS funding to Minnesota over a decade▶ 0:22:51 and cited losing more than 70 NRCS employees in Minnesota▶ 0:24:12; warned the president's budget would zero out conservation technical assistance▶ 0:24:35.

• Russell Boening, Texas Farm Bureau▶ 0:27:19: A fourth-generation Texas farmer who described EQIP's 50% livestock set-aside as critical▶ 0:28:39 and endorsed using soil classification for CRP rental rates▶ 0:29:54; said cuts to working-lands programs would "force farmers out of business"▶ 1:57:06.

• Christopher McLeland, Ducks Unlimited▶ 0:32:18: Described DU's partnership with USA Rice covering over 800,000 acres and $100 million in additional conservation funding▶ 0:35:31; said EQIP contracts rarely reach the 10-year maximum, averaging around five years, with some 10-year deals seen in Arkansas▶ 1:06:33.

• Dr. Dan Sebert, National Watershed Coalition▶ 0:37:29: Said 71% of the nation's roughly 12,000 watershed dams are in states represented on the subcommittee, with Oklahoma alone having over 2,000▶ 0:38:50; put the program's annual benefits at over $2 billion, benefiting 48 million people▶ 0:39:40, and warned aging dams past their 50-year design life need rehabilitation, not removal▶ 1:16:19.

• Tim Fink, American Farmland Trust▶ 0:42:41: Cited AFT research showing 11 million acres of farmland lost to development in the first 15 years of this century, with 18 million more acres projected lost by 2040▶ 0:43:37; said a 2022 Montana study found every ACEP dollar spent yielded nearly twice that in economic activity▶ 0:45:30.

• Nicole Galassi, Hawaii Cattlemen's Council▶ 0:47:52: Said Hawaii ranchers steward 750,000 acres, nearly 20% of the state's land mass▶ 0:48:09; described a Hawaii rancher using EQIP cross-fencing to double his herd size▶ 0:49:58, and said cancellation of the CSC program left 14,000 farmers' contracts terminated with no replacement funding timeline▶ 0:59:03▶ 1:00:20.

• Rep. Doug LaMalfa (R-CA)▶ 1:04:01: A Sacramento Valley rice grower who pressed McLeland on why EQIP rarely issues the full 10-year wildlife contracts authorized in the 2018 Farm Bill▶ 1:05:11.

• Rep. Alma Adams (D-NC)▶ 1:09:26: Cited a proposed 5% cut to NRCS Conservation Operations funding below FY2025 levels▶ 1:09:42 and asked how CTA cuts would affect underserved farmers' recovery from disasters like Hurricane Helene▶ 1:12:43.

• Rep. Andrew Barrett? / Dr. Barrett? [as spoken: "Dr. Barrett"] (R-IN)▶ 1:14:56: Shared a personal account of small watershed dams preventing flooding in Indiana since childhood▶ 1:15:26 and asked witnesses about maintaining eligibility for precision agriculture technologies▶ 1:16:19.

• Rep. Eric Sorensen (D-IL)▶ 1:20:14: A former meteorologist who described a fatal 2023 Interstate 55 dust storm near Springfield, Illinois that killed seven people▶ 1:20:36 and a similar dust storm near Bloomington, Illinois that disrupted O'Hare Airport▶ 1:21:06; linked the events to soil erosion from tillage practices▶ 1:21:36.

• Rep. Gabe Vasquez (D-NM)▶ 1:31:07: Criticized colleagues for votes he said would "gut the farm bill"▶ 1:31:36 and used yes/no questions to promote his own bills — the Habitat Connectivity on Working Lands Act▶ 1:32:01, Farmer-to-Farmer Education Act▶ 1:32:31, Ranching Without Red Tape Act▶ 1:33:01, and Honor Farmer Contracts Act▶ 1:33:51.

• Rep. Victoria Spartz? / Rep. Messer (R-IN)▶ 1:35:23: Described putting in drain tile and earthen dams on his own farm to address erosion▶ 1:35:54 and asked Boening and McLeland about the complexity of conservation program applications▶ 1:36:20 and RCPP administrative bottlenecks▶ 1:38:11.

• Rep. Nikki Budzinski (D-IL)▶ 1:40:10: Noted her district includes some of the top corn and soybean producing counties nationally▶ 1:40:36 and referenced Illinois's $5-per-acre cover crop crop insurance discount as insufficient to cover adoption costs▶ 1:41:45.

• Rep. Sarah McBride? / Rep. Mfume? [as spoken: "Mrs. Mlan Delaneies"] (D-MD)▶ 1:50:13: Highlighted the mid-Atlantic dairy farmers' climate-smart RCPP project▶ 1:52:16 and asked about barriers within RCPP and reconciliation's impact on programs like the Forest Land Owner Support Program and Emergency Watershed Recovery▶ 1:54:26.

• Rep. John Rose (R-TN)▶ 1:55:34: Cited the reconciliation bill redirecting nearly $14 billion from the IRA into permanent baseline conservation funding▶ 1:56:19 and noted 98% of farms in his district are family farms▶ 1:56:43; asked about Tennessee's loss of over 141,000 farming acres and 6,900 farms between 2017 and 2022▶ 1:59:16.

Key moments

• Chairman Lucas noted this year marks the 90th anniversary of both "Black Sunday" (April 14, 1935) and the creation of the Soil Conservation Service, framing the hearing's historical stakes▶ 0:11:48▶ 0:12:30.

• Boening said the "One Big Beautiful Bill Act" infuses roughly $11 billion in unspent IRA funding into conservation baseline while adding $8 billion in new baseline funding▶ 0:29:08.

• Sebert said watershed dams provide over $2 billion in annual benefits and protect more than 48 million people across 218 congressional districts, with most dams built between the 1940s and early 1970s now past their 50-year design life▶ 0:40:11▶ 0:40:36.

• Tokuda and Galassi detailed the April cancellation of the Partnerships for Climate-Smart Commodities program, which had leveraged $3.1 billion for over 14,000 farmers covering 3.2 million acres, leaving contracts terminated and replacement (AMP) funding timing unclear▶ 0:58:34▶ 0:59:03▶ 1:00:20.

• Sorensen described a fatal May 2023 dust storm on Interstate 55 near Springfield, Illinois that caused 37 injuries and 7 deaths, and a more recent dust storm near Bloomington that disrupted O'Hare Airport traffic▶ 1:20:36▶ 1:21:06.

• LaMalfa and McLeland discussed the gap between the 2018 Farm Bill's authorization of up to 10-year EQIP wildlife contracts and actual practice, which averages around five years, with 10-year contracts seen mainly in Arkansas▶ 1:06:02▶ 1:06:33.

• Fink cited AFT research that the U.S. lost 11 million acres of farmland (2,000 acres/day) in the first 15 years of the century, with 18 million more acres projected lost by 2040 absent policy intervention▶ 0:43:37▶ 0:44:05.

• Craig said Minnesota has lost more than 70 NRCS employees, and the president's budget proposes zeroing out conservation technical assistance funding entirely▶ 0:24:12▶ 0:24:35.

• Thompson and Boening discussed removing IRA "climate sideboards" that restrict conservation funding to climate-related practices, with panelists broadly agreeing this would support local flexibility▶ 1:28:04▶ 1:29:20.

• Vasquez used a rapid yes/no format to secure on-record support from all five witnesses for four of his own bipartisan bills addressing wildlife corridors, mentorship, grazing-lease red tape, and NRCS office closures▶ 1:32:01.

Metadata

Committee—
Chamber / CongressHouse · 119th Congress
DateJune 5, 2025
TypeHearing
Witnesses
Mr. Tim Fink — Policy Director, American Farmland Trust
Mr. Russell Boening — President, Texas Farm Bureau
Mr. Christopher McLeland — Managing Director of Agriculture Programs, Ducks Unlimited
Dr. Dan Sebert — Senior Advisor and Former Executive Director, National Watershed Coalition
Ms. Nicole Galase — Managing Director, Hawaii Cattlemen's Council
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