AI in the Everyday: Current Applications and Future Frontiers in Communications and Technology

US-China Technology CompetitionHouse Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Communications and Technology · June 4, 2025 · 119th Congress
The House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Communications and Technology held this hearing to examine how artificial intelligence is currently used across the communications and technology sectors, and what infrastructure, spectrum, and policy steps are needed to keep the United States ahead of China in AI and next-generation wireless. Begins at ▶ 0:07:48
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AI's role in wireless networks, broadband, and 6G leadership

Purpose

The House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Communications and Technology held this hearing to examine how artificial intelligence is currently used across the communications and technology sectors, and what infrastructure, spectrum, and policy steps are needed to keep the United States ahead of China in AI and next-generation wireless. Witnesses from INCOMPAS, NVIDIA, DeepSig, and the Vanderbilt Policy Accelerator testified on AI's use in fiber and wireless networks, 6G development, spectrum sensing, and national security, while members clashed over the House-passed 10-year moratorium on state AI regulation and delays to the BEAD broadband and Digital Equity programs. Begins at▶ 0:07:48

Who spoke

• Chairman Richard Hudson (R-NC)▶ 0:07:48: Opened by describing everyday AI uses and argued for a light regulatory touch modeled on early internet policy▶ 0:10:34; later questioned Pickering on Europe's permission-based AI model versus a risk-based approach▶ 0:50:42 and on state patchwork regulation like Colorado's▶ 0:52:38.

• Ranking Member Doris Matsui (D-CA)▶ 0:11:03: Argued AI and connectivity are linked and criticized the Trump administration for delaying the $42 billion BEAD program and cancelling nearly $3 billion in digital equity grants▶ 0:12:42▶ 0:13:39; called the 10-year state AI moratorium "misguided and dangerous"▶ 0:15:19; later asked Ramzanali how the moratorium would affect innovation and protections▶ 0:56:37 and pressed Pickering and Vasishta on fiber expansion and Open RAN▶ 0:57:32▶ 0:59:17.

• Chairman Brett Guthrie (R-KY), Full Committee▶ 0:16:04: Framed AI as a top committee priority spanning energy, fiber, and data, citing Randy Travis's AI-recreated voice as an example of beneficial use▶ 0:18:26; warned that if the US doesn't secure AI leadership "China will fill the void"▶ 0:19:18.

• Ranking Member Frank Pallone (D-NJ), Full Committee▶ 0:21:02: Criticized the House-passed 10-year state AI enforcement ban as "a giant gift to big tech" that would block existing state consumer-protection laws▶ 0:21:30▶ 0:21:58; argued spectrum auction proceeds should fund Next Generation 911 instead of tax cuts▶ 0:25:49.

• Chip Pickering, CEO, INCOMPAS▶ 0:27:05: Said INCOMPAS represents companies on both sides of the data center, from energy to fiber to AI model developers▶ 0:28:23; argued the US needs a national AI framework and bipartisan permitting reform to "build as fast as possible"▶ 0:30:39; cited a member CEO's projection that fiber capacity to data centers will multiply sixfold in five years▶ 1:05:24 and described Mississippi becoming a data-center hub along an Atlanta-to-Dallas fiber route▶ 1:06:23; defended the moratorium as protecting small AI startups from a 50-state regulatory patchwork▶ 1:49:17.

• Ronnie Vasishta, SVP Telecom, NVIDIA▶ 0:33:50: Said 6G early deployments could start as early as 2028 and whoever leads AI-native 6G "will win the 6G race"▶ 0:35:27▶ 0:35:53; described the AI-RAN Alliance project with Booz Allen, Cisco, MITRE, and T-Mobile▶ 0:38:45; testified accelerated computing improves data-center energy efficiency but more energy will still be needed▶ 1:03:26▶ 1:04:28.

• Jim Shea, CEO, DeepSig Inc.▶ 0:40:33: Explained DeepSig's AI-based Omniphy software replaces traditional wireless signal-processing algorithms to reduce dropped calls and improve spectrum efficiency▶ 0:41:25; said AI-based sensing detected fake base stations in Turkey covertly transmitting Uyghur population data to China▶ 0:43:19; noted DeepSig has 48 employees and received three NTIA wireless supply chain innovation fund grants▶ 0:44:43.

• Asad Ramzanali, Director of AI and Technology Policy, Vanderbilt Policy Accelerator▶ 0:45:38: Presented a four-layer AI "stack" (applications, models, cloud computing, chips)▶ 0:46:37; drew a historical parallel to railroad regulation, noting Congress passed the Hepburn Act after states first acted▶ 0:48:23; warned the 10-year moratorium would "wipe away real guardrails" without commensurate federal protection▶ 0:49:18; later said resume-screening AI software was found to be screening out women▶ 1:20:03.

• Rep. Darren Soto (D-FL)▶ 1:07:33: Asked Vasishta about tariffs' effect on microchip manufacturing▶ 1:08:28 and about immigrant talent and visas at NVIDIA▶ 1:09:19; criticized 135 days of BEAD delays under the Trump administration▶ 1:11:19.

• Rep. Rick Allen (R-GA)▶ 1:12:42: Asked Vasishta for a working definition of AI▶ 1:12:45; asked panelists how AI could mitigate telecom disruptions from disasters like Hurricane Helene▶ 1:13:39.

• Rep. Yvette Clarke (D-NY)▶ 1:17:55: Criticized the state AI moratorium as "a giveaway to big tech," citing New York City's AI bias law in employment▶ 1:19:07; criticized Trump's rollback of the Digital Equity Act as harmful to seniors and communities of color▶ 1:20:54.

• Rep. Bob Latta (R-OH)▶ 1:23:19: Noted the US invested 12 times more in AI than China in 2024 and pressed Pickering on permitting delays▶ 1:23:46; asked Vasishta whether current networks can handle AI data-center traffic▶ 1:25:45.

• Rep. Scott Peters (D-CA)▶ 1:29:06: Argued a 10-year moratorium is really "a ban," not a moratorium, and pressed Pickering on why not shorten it to the remainder of this Congress▶ 1:29:35▶ 1:32:11; asked Ramzanali to explain "normal technology" framing for AI regulation▶ 1:32:11.

• Rep. Rich McCormick / "Mr. Bilirakis" (R-FL)▶ 1:33:33: Asked Shea about AI countering surveillance of Uyghurs by China and Turkey▶ 1:34:04 and about AI's role in tracking robocall scammers targeting seniors▶ 1:35:59.

• Rep. Debbie Dingell (D-MI)▶ 1:39:31: Cited 52 billion robocalls received by Americans in 2024 and $12.5 billion lost to fraud, including AI voice-cloning scams▶ 1:40:45▶ 1:41:12; pressed Ramzanali on how AI is exploited to target seniors▶ 1:42:05.

• Rep. Buddy Carter (R-GA)▶ 1:54:56: Discussed AI's role in rural broadband deployment and asked about lessons from the Salt Typhoon cyberattack, which infiltrated nine major US telecom networks▶ 1:58:01.

• Rep. Robert Menendez (D-NJ)▶ 1:59:43: Raised concerns that the Trump administration is using Palantir's AI to consolidate Americans' sensitive data across federal agencies, calling it unprecedented and a "surveillance apparatus"▶ 2:00:05; had Ramzanali confirm this raises cybersecurity vulnerability▶ 2:04:17.

• Rep. Neal Dunn (R-FL)▶ 2:04:46: Asked Pickering about AI's role in emergency response and FirstNet reauthorization▶ 2:06:41; asked Vasishta about dynamic spectrum sharing for military applications▶ 2:09:21.

• Rep. Kim Mrenge / "Ms. Mullin" (R-?)▶ 2:10:26: Cited an Axios/Anthropic (Dario Amodei) estimate that AI could eliminate half of entry-level white-collar jobs and push unemployment to 10–20% within one to five years▶ 2:12:12; asked panelists how Congress and industry should manage workforce transition▶ 2:13:03.

• Rep. John Joyce (R-PA)▶ 2:15:51: Discussed data centers and fiber deployment in Pennsylvania and pressed Pickering on railroad permitting delays for fiber crossings, citing fees up to $40,000 per crossing and 18-month delays▶ 2:19:58▶ 2:20:36.

• Rep. Kathy Castor (D-FL)▶ 2:21:49: Criticized the moratorium as taking Congress "off track" from a real framework, citing a 40-state attorneys general letter calling it "wholly destructive"▶ 2:22:36▶ 2:23:15; polled witnesses on regulating AI harms to minors, algorithmic rent-setting, and AI transparency▶ 2:23:38.

• Rep. Erin Houchin (R-IN)▶ 2:27:07: Asked Pickering about barriers to rural broadband deployment and the role of AI in speeding permitting▶ 2:28:29.

• Rep. Jake Auchincloss / "Mr. Lansman" (D-?)▶ 2:33:15: Questioned whether satellite broadband (citing Elon Musk's Starlink) could crowd out fiber investment▶ 2:33:44; Ramzanali responded that the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law already established a fiber preference through NTIA▶ 2:36:03.

• Rep. Craig Goldman (R-TX)▶ 2:37:20: Asked Vasishta how NVIDIA secures telecom AI infrastructure from foreign interference▶ 2:37:20; asked Shea about IP theft risks to defense AI contractors▶ 2:39:57.

• Rep. Russell Fry (R-SC)▶ 2:40:48: Asked Pickering for specifics on permitting reform, citing small-cell shot-clock and one-touch-make-ready precedents▶ 2:41:18; asked Vasishta about AI-native wireless and 6G▶ 2:43:26.

• Rep. Robin Kelly (D-IL)▶ 2:46:16: Warned that the state AI moratorium removes protections against discrimination in housing, employment, credit, and healthcare▶ 2:46:16; asked how the digital equity funding freeze affects seniors and veterans learning AI skills▶ 2:47:53.

• Rep. Tom Kean (R-NJ)▶ 2:48:56: Asked Shea about AI improving cell coverage in geographically difficult rural areas of New Jersey▶ 2:49:12; asked Vasishta how the US can lead AI within international standards bodies▶ 2:52:07.

• Chairman Hudson (closing round)▶ 2:53:51: Asked Pickering about the US-China energy gap (10,000 vs. 4,000 terawatt-hours) and solutions including behind-the-meter power and small modular reactors▶ 2:54:12▶ 2:56:10; pressed Ramzanali on whether the moratorium applies only to new state regulations, not existing ones▶ 2:58:14.

Key moments

• Pickering said the FCC has no oversight of railroad crossings, leading to up to 18-month delays and fees as high as $40,000 per crossing for fiber deployment▶ 2:19:58▶ 2:20:36.

• Ramzanali and Menendez discussed reports that the Trump administration is using Palantir AI to consolidate Americans' sensitive data (medical history, bank accounts, immigration status, geolocation) into one database; Ramzanali called it reminiscent of the fear that led to the 1974 Privacy Act▶ 2:00:05▶ 2:01:12.

• Pickering cited a member company's CEO projecting fiber capacity to data centers will grow sixfold in the next five years▶ 1:05:24.

• Vasishta said 6G early deployments could begin as early as 2028, with a 2030 standards target, and that only one other country (China) is investing comparably in AI-native wireless standards▶ 0:35:53▶ 1:27:44.

• Shea said DeepSig's AI sensing software helped identify fake base stations in Turkey covertly transmitting Uyghur population data to China▶ 0:43:19.

• Peters challenged Pickering that a 10-year state AI moratorium amounts to a "ban," not a moratorium, given repeated claims of urgency; Pickering suggested limiting the pause to the remainder of the current Congress (about a year and a half)▶ 1:29:35▶ 1:32:11.

• Dingell cited 52 billion robocalls received by Americans in 2024 (nearly 200 per adult) and $12.5 billion lost to impostor scams using AI voice cloning▶ 1:40:45▶ 1:41:12.

• Ramzanali said a resume-screening AI tool for computer science jobs was found to be screening out women, illustrating harms state anti-discrimination laws address▶ 1:20:03.

• Guthrie's chip manufacturer, when asked about tariffs on steel and aluminum affecting microchip production, said Vasishta deferred, saying it wasn't his area of expertise▶ 1:08:51.

• Castor noted the bipartisan House AI Task Force's December report recommended continued study of federal preemption rather than a blanket moratorium, and entered its findings into the record▶ 2:25:28▶ 2:25:55.

Metadata

CommitteeHouse Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Communications and Technology
Chamber / CongressHouse · 119th Congress
DateJune 4, 2025
TypeHearing
Witnesses
Chip Pickering — Chief Executive Officer, INCOMPAS
Ronnie Vasishta — Senior Vice President of Telecom, NVIDIA
Jim Shea — Chief Executive Officer, DeepSig, Inc.
Asad Ramzanali — Director of AI and Technology Policy,, anderbilt Policy Accelerator, Vanderbilt University
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Transcript404 caption blocks · 27,269 words · 2:59:49 runtime
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