Aging Out is Not a Plan: Reimagining Futures for Foster Youth

Health Care Costs and Drug PricingHouse Ways and Means Subcommittee on Work and Welfare · 2025-06-12 · 119th Congress
The House Ways and Means Subcommittee on Work and Welfare held this hearing to examine how the John H. Begins at 0:07:26
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Title

Modernizing the Chafee Program to Support Youth Aging Out of Foster Care

Purpose

The House Ways and Means Subcommittee on Work and Welfare held this hearing to examine how the John H. Chafee Foster Care Program and related federal supports (ETVs, HUD's Foster Youth to Independence vouchers, WIOA) could be modernized to better serve youth transitioning out of foster care. Held in conjunction with Foster Youth Shadow Day, the hearing combined testimony from young people with lived foster care experience and nonprofit leaders on gaps in funding formulas, case management, housing, and awareness of available services. Begins at0:07:26

Who spoke

Chairman Darin LaHood (R-IL)0:07:26: Opened the hearing, noting 15,600 youth aged out of foster care without permanent connections in 20230:09:36, that ~25% of former foster youth experience homelessness within four years0:10:06, and that states returned $8.9 million in unspent Chafee/ETV funds in 20220:10:36; later questioned all four witnesses on case management, awareness, and housing coordination0:42:10.

Ranking Member Danny Davis (D-IL)0:12:38: Said foster care should be a "last resort" and stressed the need for love and family connection, not just material support0:13:09; noted only 3-4% of foster youth obtain a 4-year degree and only about a third of those get federal education vouchers0:15:28; later questioned Nelson and Webb on transportation and family reunification barriers0:48:47.

Rep. Jason Smith (R-MO), Full Committee Chairman0:17:16: Introduced witness Kimberly Webb, describing her work as a correctional officer and enrollment in Missouri's Royals program0:18:31.

Rep. Dwight Evans (D-PA)0:19:48: Introduced witness Ramond Nelson, his constituent from Philadelphia0:19:48; later asked Nelson about the importance of peer mentoring and community connections found through Foster Club and his fraternity1:23:20.

Rep. Rudy Yakym (R-IN)0:21:09: Introduced witness Dr. Maggie Stevens0:21:09; later questioned Stevens on Indiana's ETV completion rates (29%, 10% above national average) and funding formula impacts from declining overall foster youth counts1:06:21.

Kimberly Webb, Youth in Foster Care0:21:58: Described being placed in care three times, moving foster homes five times in nine months, and struggling to get a driver's license and vehicle without credit history0:22:52; credited Missouri's Royals program with providing specialized case management and life skills coaching0:23:52; called for expanding Royals nationally and prioritizing transportation and vital documents access0:25:33.

Ramond Nelson, Lived Experience Leader, Foster Club0:26:50: Testified he spent seven years in Pennsylvania's child welfare system, was homeless for 18 days while in college, and learned about Chafee housing supports too late0:30:06; said he is one of 400,000 young adults in the child welfare system0:30:34; urged prioritizing relationships, family support, and repeated information about available resources0:31:01.

Dr. Maggie Stevens, President and CEO, Foster Success0:31:58: Said only 8-12% of teens aging out of care complete a postsecondary credential nationally, versus more than 30% in her ETV programs0:33:03; described cutting ETV application processing time from six weeks to two0:33:31; called for raising ETV funding caps, including trade/technical pathways, and revising funding formulas0:35:17.

Lisa Guillette, Executive Director, Foster Forward0:37:07: Described the "Works Wonders" career-pathway program, citing a 74% positive-outcome rate among participants0:39:22; noted only 4% of Rhode Island teens ages 16-19 are disconnected from school and work, versus 7% nationally0:39:22; called for streamlining WIOA documentation requirements and expanding FYI vouchers0:41:10.

Rep. Gwen Moore (D-WI)0:59:38: Noted her role co-chairing the Congressional Caucus on Foster Youth and hosting a foster daughter for Shadow Day0:59:38; asked Stevens about aligning Chafee mental health/Medicaid eligibility with ACA rules allowing coverage to age 261:04:32.

Rep. Mike Kelly (R-PA)1:06:21: Referenced during Q&A discussion (named by Rep. Yakym as "Mr. Kerry"/Kelly)1:02:13.

Rep. Jimmy Panetta (D-CA)1:11:48: Advocated for extended foster care to age 21, citing youth in extended care are three times less likely to be disconnected from school/work1:12:11; touted his bipartisan "Increasing Access to Foster Care through 21 Act"1:12:39; questioned Webb and Stevens on the benefits of extended care1:13:05.

Rep. Aaron Bean (R-FL)1:17:25: Shared an anecdote about a Florida foster youth 30 days from aging out who sought adoption anyway for family belonging1:17:55; asked Guillette about coordinating workforce systems with child welfare1:19:14.

Rep. Randy Feenstra (R-IA)1:27:29: Discussed his "Recruiting Families Using Data Act," passed by the House in March1:28:17; asked Stevens and Guillette about barriers causing states to return unspent Chafee/ETV funds1:28:45.

Rep. Steven Horsford (D-NV)1:32:35: Described Nevada's new Extended Youth Adult Support Services program launching the following month1:35:14; asked Nelson how earlier knowledge of housing/lease resources could have changed his outcomes1:36:07.

Key moments

LaHood's chart showed 12 states returned $2.5 million in unspent Chafee funds and 28 states returned $6.3 million in ETVs in 2022, totaling $8.9 million, while only 5% of Illinois foster youth receive Chafee services at any point0:10:360:11:05.

Webb described purchasing a car through CarMart because she had no credit history to qualify at a regular dealership0:23:22.

Nelson recounted 18 days homeless while attending classes and working overnight shifts, before a professor helped him get an apartment down payment through emergency assistance he later had to repay via taxes0:30:06.

Nelson said he learned about Education and Training Vouchers a year past the eligibility cutoff each time, causing him to take out loans rather than access aid his brother could have used for college or trade school0:56:53.

Stevens said Indiana saw a 15% funding decrease in 2023 despite rising eligible older-youth demand, because Chafee funds are distributed based on total youth in care (which fell over 50% from 2018-2023) rather than the older, eligible population1:08:03.

Guillette said Rhode Island had to recruit private funders (CVS Health, Blue Cross Blue Shield of Rhode Island) to cover FYI voucher supportive-services costs because Chafee funding ends before the vouchers' 25-year-old age limit1:07:371:08:03.

Moore confirmed under the ACA that former foster youth are eligible to remain on Medicaid until their 26th birthday, though Chafee's own extended-services age cutoffs (21 or 23) vary by state1:05:51.

Nelson disclosed his mother had schizophrenia (undiagnosed to him until age 19) and his grandmother suffered depression, saying 13 years passed without mental health resources being offered to the family0:55:26.

Guillette said only about half of youth served in Rhode Island's target age range have a diploma or GED by age 19, limiting ETV program eligibility that requires it as a prerequisite1:31:40.

Nelson said an 8-month lease dispute with a roommate, entered without guidance, damaged his credit and forced closure of his bank account, illustrating gaps in basic financial/housing literacy support1:37:01.

Metadata

CommitteeHouse Ways and Means Subcommittee on Work and Welfare
Chamber / CongressHouse · 119th Congress
Date2025-06-12
TypeHearing
Witnesses
Ramond Nelson — Lived Experience Leader, Foster Club
Lisa Guillette — Executive Director, Foster Forward
Maggie Stevens, Ed.D. — President and CEO, Foster Success
Kimberely Webb — Youth in Foster Care
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