Spies, Lies, and Mismanagement: Examining the U.S. Agency for Global Media’s Downfall

Defense Posture and Global ThreatsHouse Foreign Affairs · June 25, 2025 · 119th Congress
The House Foreign Affairs Committee convened this hearing to examine the Trump administration's dismantling and restructuring of the U.S. Begins at ▶ 0:00:28
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Title

USAGM restructuring: security failures, foreign propaganda, and mass layoffs

Purpose

The House Foreign Affairs Committee convened this hearing to examine the Trump administration's dismantling and restructuring of the U.S. Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which oversees Voice of America and grantees like Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty and Radio Free Asia. Senior Adviser Kari Lake testified about security vetting failures, alleged Chinese Communist Party influence over VOA content, financial mismanagement, and the reduction in force, while Democrats challenged the lack of documented analysis behind the cuts and questioned Lake's own record. Begins at▶ 0:00:28

Who spoke

• Chairman Brian Mast (R-FL)▶ 0:00:00: Opened by arguing USAGM cannot continue operating as-is and drastic reform is needed▶ 0:00:00; later showed a photo of an empty VOA newsroom from November 2024▶ 0:46:27 and closed by inviting Lake to give final remarks▶ 3:04:01.

• Ranking Member Gregory Meeks (D-NY)▶ 0:00:28: Criticized the administration for dismantling USAGM without a documented strategy, citing 427 million weekly reach and VOA Persian's 223 million website visits▶ 0:03:42; pressed Lake on whether she conducted a written analysis before placing staff on leave, and she repeatedly could not produce a record▶ 0:21:04.

• Kari Lake, Senior Adviser, USAGM▶ 0:06:20: Said the agency was "incompetent, mismanaged, deeply corrupt" and a national security threat▶ 0:07:16; said 500 improperly vetted former employees, many foreign nationals with falsified names/Social Security numbers, cannot be located▶ 0:08:58; cited examples of waste including $75,000 for a COVID Mac-computer study, $100,000 sponsoring an Afghan cricket team, and $825,000 for a New York music show▶ 0:11:25; said threatening calls to a sitting member of Congress were traced to inside VOA▶ 0:12:09; said Radio Free Europe nearly hired 20 spies from a hostile nation▶ 0:09:28; said the Chinese embassy held annual meetings with VOA's Mandarin service leadership to shape content▶ 0:26:45.

• Rep. Michael McCaul (R-TX)▶ 0:13:06: Praised reform efforts and cited using VOA/Open Technology Fund to disseminate his COVID-origins report into China▶ 0:14:01; asked how Lake is ensuring VOA reaches Iran in Farsi▶ 0:15:00.

• Rep. Christopher Smith (R-NJ)▶ 0:23:49: Asked Lake to elaborate on VOA Mandarin service staff meeting with the Chinese embassy and a VOA editor pledging allegiance to the PRC▶ 0:24:06.

• Rep. Bill Keating (D-MA)▶ 0:28:40: Argued Iran broadcasting is being cut precisely when needed most, citing a 344% radio traffic surge and journalists tortured in detention▶ 0:29:02; pressed Lake on why she won't meet with grantee presidents▶ 0:30:26.

• Rep. Scott Perry (R-PA)▶ 0:34:28: Asked about the Maguire Woods report and whether anyone was held accountable for the vetting failures▶ 0:36:20; Lake said no one has been prosecuted▶ 0:38:13.

• Rep. Shri Thanedar (D-MI)▶ 0:40:44: Entered a News Guild letter into the record and pressed Lake for a "methodical approach" behind the cuts▶ 0:42:06; Lake described reviewing grant agreements and the March 14 executive order▶ 0:55:47.

• Rep. Juan Ciscomani (R-AZ)▶ 0:47:18: Recognized himself, compared USAGM grantee budgets (Radio Free Europe $150M, Radio Free Asia $70M, Middle East Broadcasting $103M) to iHeart Media's $90M total budget▶ 0:48:32; questioned Lake on the member-of-Congress harassment investigation▶ 0:49:21 and the 500 missing vetted employees▶ 0:51:32.

• Rep. Kathy Castor / Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick (D-FL)▶ 0:53:53: Entered a grantee letter into the record disputing Lake's meeting claims and asked what staff/procedures supported Lake's two-week conclusion that USAGM was "incompetent, corrupt"▶ 0:55:19.

• Rep. Pete Sessions/"Mr. Self" (R-TX)▶ 0:59:31: Asked how VOA Persian audience compares to Starlink and black-market channels in Iran, and about Lake's plan to reach denied countries via social media rather than "1990s style television"▶ 1:00:59.

• Rep. Greg Stanton (D-AZ)▶ 1:04:32: Challenged Lake's character, citing her refusal to concede the 2022 Arizona governor's race, court sanctions for false statements, and a default judgment in a defamation suit brought by Stephen Richer▶ 1:05:28▶ 1:08:20.

• **Rep. (unidentified, self-recognized chair)▶ 1:12:09**: Noted Lake is "an adjudicated liar" leading an agency meant to disseminate truth▶ 1:12:09; pressed on the 500 unaccounted employees and possible "ghost employees"▶ 1:13:30; asked whether USAGM funds Al Jazeera or Pravda (no)▶ 1:15:44.

• Rep. Jim Costa (D-CA)▶ 1:19:08: Asked about cuts to VOA's Armenian-language service, noting it reached over one-third of Armenia's adult population; Lake said Armenian is not a statutorily required language▶ 1:20:30.

• **Rep. (unidentified chair, self-recognized)▶ 1:24:41**: Asked what USAGM's mission should be going forward and referenced Burmese-language service cuts▶ 1:27:05.

• Rep. Sydney Kamlager-Dove/Jayapal-style member ("Gyipal") (D-WA)▶ 1:30:01: Pressed Lake on whether she supports democracy, her past praise of Viktor Orbán as "the greatest in Europe," Orbán's control of 80% of Hungary's media, and her past promotion of the debunked Ukraine bioweapons-lab claim▶ 1:31:19▶ 1:34:51.

• Rep. Warren Davidson (R-OH)▶ 1:36:16: Invited Lake to tour Voice of America Park in Ohio; asked her to expand on documented VOA bias, citing headlines about pro-Biden coverage and the Amanda Bennett lease▶ 1:38:59.

• Rep. (Volkert-style member, likely Rep. April McClain Delaney or similar) (D)▶ 1:42:35: Entered Politico/Washington Post articles into the record on Moscow/Beijing celebrating cuts; asked whether Lake is concerned her characterization of VOA matches Chinese government spokesperson rhetoric▶ 1:45:34.

• Rep. Andy Barr (R-KY)▶ 1:47:45: Defended Lake against "ad hominem attacks," detailed the VOA Mandarin-Chinese embassy meetings, and asked whether implicated employees still hold positions▶ 1:49:00.

• Rep. (Kamlager-Dove) (D)▶ 1:53:03: Asked whether Russia is an adversary and read Russia Today's celebratory statement about USAGM cuts▶ 1:53:30.

• Rep. Aaron Bean/Baird (R-IN)▶ 1:58:07: Asked Lake to respond to critics who fear the U.S. is ceding the information space to adversaries▶ 1:58:54.

• Rep. Sara Jacobs/"Almo" (D-CA)▶ 2:04:24: Cited Russia Today's celebration of RFE/RL's closure and China's addition of 80 new state-media frequencies after RFA's shortwave stations went dark▶ 2:06:48.

• Rep. (McKenzie) (R)▶ 2:09:53: Asked about a $250 million, 15-year Pennsylvania Avenue lease signed under former CEO Amanda Bennett that was not equipped for broadcasting▶ 2:11:14, and about roughly 19 settlements over $250,000 each▶ 2:12:42.

• Rep. Dina Titus (D-NV)▶ 2:15:05: Disputed the lease framing, noting USAGM told Congress the new building would save $150 million▶ 2:15:05; pressed on whether One America News, awarded a content contract, meets the legal "reliable and authoritative" standard, citing reports it was told to minimize coverage of Russian aggression and the Pope▶ 2:16:45.

• Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN)▶ 2:20:30: Asked about former employee Setareh Sieg, fired in 2017 for résumé fraud and rehired under Biden▶ 2:22:23.

• Rep. Madeleine Dean (D-PA)▶ 2:26:31: Said Lake's own testimony proved reform was never the goal, calling her a "propaganda machine," and criticized her J1 visa comments as demonizing foreign-national journalists▶ 2:28:45.

• Rep. Young Kim (R-CA)▶ 2:35:11: Warned about winning the "information domain" in future crises like a Taiwan Strait contingency, and asked about the impact of terminating 1,400 VOA positions▶ 2:37:34.

• Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee successor / "Miss Johnson" — Rep. Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick or similar (D-TX)▶ 2:42:29: Cited a figure of 354 million weekly listeners, which Lake said she doesn't trust because it comes from the government▶ 2:43:02; argued VOA/RFA countering CCP propaganda directly contradicts the case for dismantling it▶ 2:45:40.

• Rep. Andy Biggs (R-AZ)▶ 2:48:27: Asked for examples of VOA misleading its audience, and Lake cited VOA Ukraine airing a Robert De Niro anti-Trump rant and downplaying Biden's debate performance▶ 2:49:31.

• Rep. Brad Sherman (D-CA)▶ 2:52:55: Argued Lake was repeating Russian and Chinese propaganda talking points about VOA's unreliability, and noted Armenian-language broadcasting was eliminated without consulting the Armenian Caucus▶ 2:54:31.

• Rep. Juan Ciscomani or guest member "Hammeday" (Abraham Hamadeh, R-AZ)▶ 2:58:02: Praised Lake as a fellow Arizonan and asked her to expand on CCP influence at VOA and the Farsi broadcast of Trump's Iran strike address▶ 2:59:13.

Key moments

• Lake said 500 improperly vetted USAGM employees—hired with falsified names and Social Security numbers—cannot be located despite Trump administration and "Doge" efforts to track them down▶ 0:08:58▶ 0:52:57.

• Lake said Radio Free Europe nearly hired more than 20 spies from a hostile nation, stopped only by a timely tip▶ 0:09:28.

• Meeks pressed Lake repeatedly on whether she conducted a written review before placing staff on leave; Lake could not produce documentation, saying only that she "reviewed the statute" and the March 14 executive order▶ 0:21:04.

• Lake said the Chinese embassy in Washington held annual meetings with VOA's Mandarin Service leadership dating to the early 2000s to shape content, and that a VOA TV editor publicly pledged allegiance to the PRC at an embassy event▶ 0:26:45▶ 2:59:37.

• Rep. Stanton accused Lake of being sanctioned twice by courts for false statements and taking a default judgment in a defamation suit by Stephen Richer rather than defend her election claims; Lake did not directly answer whether she lost the 2022 election▶ 1:04:57▶ 1:08:20.

• Lake disclosed that threatening phone calls to a sitting member of Congress, spanning roughly October 2023 to January 2025, were traced to originating from inside Voice of America, but declined to name the individual▶ 0:12:09▶ 0:50:14.

• McKenzie and Titus disputed over a $250 million, 15-year lease for a Pennsylvania Avenue building not equipped for broadcasting; Titus countered that USAGM had told Congress the move would save $150 million▶ 2:11:14▶ 2:15:05.

• Lake said USAGM has been "stonewalled" by grantees (RFE/RL, RFA, Middle East Broadcasting) in an ongoing financial audit, with cooperation only offered "in the 11th hour" the night before the hearing▶ 0:35:23▶ 1:15:15.

• Costa noted VOA's own data showed the Armenian-language service reached over one-third of Armenia's adult population before being cut; Lake said Armenian is not a statutorily required language▶ 1:22:13▶ 1:20:54.

• Lake cited examples of alleged waste: $75,000 for a COVID Mac-computer study, $100,000 sponsoring an Afghan cricket team, $400,000 in "quid pro quo" payments to African VOA affiliates, $825,000 for a New York music show, and a $6 million unused consulting contract▶ 0:11:25▶ 0:11:51.

Metadata

CommitteeHouse Foreign Affairs
Chamber / CongressHouse · 119th Congress
DateJune 25, 2025
TypeHearing
Witnesses
Ms. Kari Lake — Senior Advisor, U.S. Agency for Global Media
Videoyoutube
Transcript425 caption blocks · 32,067 words · 3:07:37 runtime
EventCongress.gov 118430