Oversight of the Department of Transportation's Policies and Programs and Fiscal Year 2025 Budget Request

Aviation Safety and FAA OversightHouse · July 16, 2025 · 119th Congress
The House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure held this oversight hearing on July 16, 2025 to examine the Department of Transportation's policies, programs, and fiscal year 2026 budget request. Begins at ▶ 0:26:31
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Title

Oversight of DOT Policies and Fiscal Year 2026 Budget Request

Purpose

The House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure held this oversight hearing on July 16, 2025 to examine the Department of Transportation's policies, programs, and fiscal year 2026 budget request. Secretary Sean Duffy testified for over four hours on air traffic control modernization, the backlog of stalled discretionary grants, surface transportation reauthorization priorities, and a series of member-specific district and policy concerns, with the session recessed mid-afternoon for House floor votes and reconvened later. Begins at▶ 0:26:31

Who spoke

• Chairman Sam Graves (R-MO)▶ 0:26:31: Opened the hearing, limited member questions to three minutes, and praised the $12.5 billion reconciliation down payment for FAA air traffic control modernization▶ 0:28:01; noted the committee is drafting the next surface transportation bill before the highway trust fund's current authorization expires next September▶ 0:29:32.

• Ranking Member Rick Larsen (D-WA)▶ 0:29:58: Urged DOT to finish reviewing the remaining ~1,300 stalled grants and warned against cancelling $5.7 billion in EV charging grants▶ 0:31:20; criticized more than 4,100 DOT employee departures and workforce reductions exceeding 25% at FHWA, FTA, and NHTSA▶ 0:31:47, and objected to what he called the administration's deference to executive orders over statute▶ 0:33:38.

• Rep. Jesús "Chuy" García (D-IL)▶ 0:34:34: Spoke in support of the Disadvantaged Business Enterprise (DBE) program, citing testimonials from Chicago-area firms and over 100 submissions supporting its continuation▶ 0:35:04; later pressed Duffy on cancellation of transportation research grants tied to "woke" language, naming UC Davis, CUNY/USC, San José State, and Johns Hopkins grants▶ 1:08:28.

• Secretary Sean Duffy▶ 0:37:01: Delivered opening testimony citing the 67 lives lost in the January mid-air collision near DCA▶ 0:37:53, unveiled a three-to-four-year ATC overhaul plan▶ 0:38:36, and cited a controller shortage of about 3,000 with a 20% retention bonus for eligible retirees▶ 0:39:57; throughout the hearing he cited a $31.5 billion total ATC rebuild cost estimate▶ 0:59:03 and the 300-year replacement timeline under the current pace▶ 0:57:53.

• Rep. Rick Crawford (R-AR)▶ 0:43:05: Asked about redirecting EV charging funds toward truck parking, welcoming the administration's $275 million commitment▶ 0:43:53; also raised concerns about BYD and CRRC circumventing the Transit Infrastructure Vehicle Security Act (TIVSA)▶ 0:45:29.

• Rep. Mike Ezell (R-MS)▶ 0:46:44: Noted DOT had cleared about 1,900 of 3,200 stalled grants▶ 0:46:44 and pressed for a timeline on the remaining 1,300▶ 0:47:14; raised roadway safety and bike/pedestrian separation▶ 0:48:44.

• Rep. Daniel Webster (R-FL)▶ 0:50:09: Asked about a federal infrastructure bank leveraging private capital▶ 0:50:09 and NEPA categorical exclusions for routine maintenance projects▶ 0:50:58.

• Rep. (unidentified member, "Mr. Valadao" section)▶ 0:52:43: Asked about federal support for the Union Station, D.C. expansion project▶ 0:52:43 and pressed for DCA helicopter transponder requirements following the January mid-air collision▶ 0:54:15.

• Rep. Scott Perry (R-PA)▶ 0:55:49: Asked about a timeline for the I-83 bridge project review in Pennsylvania▶ 0:56:13 and pressed on air traffic control modernization and remote/digital tower procurement▶ 0:57:24.

• Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-NY)▶ 0:59:32: Sharply disputed Duffy's public claims about MTA subway crime statistics and congestion pricing, accusing him of "lying" about assault trends and the existence of a 2023 environmental review of the congestion relief program▶ 1:00:01; the exchange grew heated with both men accusing the other of dishonesty▶ 1:01:25.

• Rep. Brian Babin (R-TX)▶ 1:02:46: Congratulated Duffy on his interim NASA role, sought assurance no budget-related layoffs before Congress acts▶ 1:03:40, and asked about Port of Houston infrastructure support and truck parking funding▶ 1:05:04.

• Rep. Vince Fong (R-CA), first appearance▶ 1:26:34 and later▶ 2:34:25: Raised California high-speed rail's ballooning cost from $33 billion to $128–130 billion after $17 billion spent in 17 years▶ 1:25:07, and later asked about the 1,500-hour pilot training rule and autonomous vehicle policy▶ 2:35:19.

• Rep. Julia Brownley (D-CA)▶ 1:42:19: Questioned SpaceX employee conflicts of interest at the FAA and waivers granted, pressing on competitive advantage concerns▶ 1:42:49.

• Rep. Kevin Kiley (R-CA)▶ 1:46:30: Proposed the E-Permit Act for cloud-based permitting review, a bill barring Chinese-manufactured LiDAR near infrastructure, and legislation withholding DOT funds from sanctuary cities▶ 1:46:59.

• Rep. Frederica Wilson (D-FL)▶ 1:49:38: Raised South Florida rail safety statistics (most dangerous railroads by deaths per million miles) and a $25 million INFRA grant for PortMiami▶ 1:50:06.

• Rep. Troy Nehls (R-TX)▶ 1:53:42: Praised the $12.5 billion ATC down payment, urged supersonic flight authorization, and pressed for approval of the Allegiant–Viva Aerobus joint venture pending three and a half years▶ 1:55:41.

• Rep. Mark DeSaulnier (D-CA)▶ 1:57:06: Discussed a $166 million mega grant in the 680 corridor and questioned EV charging competitiveness against Chinese manufacturers like BYD▶ 1:58:17.

• Rep. Pete Stauber (R-MN)▶ 2:00:27: Asked Duffy to clarify that DOT's spending "audit" never jeopardized projects like the Blatnik Bridge▶ 2:01:37 and raised Duluth International Airport's aging air traffic control tower, the third-oldest in the country▶ 2:02:24.

• Rep. Salud Carbajal (D-CA)▶ 2:04:02: Thanked DOT staff for responsiveness on Gaviota/Santa Barbara grants and asked about incentivizing recycled asphalt pavement (RAP) use▶ 2:04:29; also raised PFAS-free firefighting foam transition funding▶ 2:05:28.

• Rep. Tracey Mann (R-KS)▶ 2:08:28: Asked about NextGen-style procurement risks for the new ATC system and protecting the U.S. aviation export market, noting $780 billion in net exports▶ 2:11:05.

• Rep. Greg Stanton (D-AZ)▶ 2:11:41: Sought a cost estimate for the ATC modernization plan▶ 2:11:41 and asked about extreme-heat resiliency for Arizona airport infrastructure amid 118°F highs▶ 2:13:37.

• Rep. Burgess Owens (R-UT)▶ 2:14:34: Asked about continued Capital Investment Grant funding for Utah's FrontRunner commuter rail▶ 2:14:58 and touted Utah's infrastructure delivery record▶ 2:16:23.

• Rep. Sharice Davids (D-KS)▶ 2:17:18: Asked about the timeline for the Advanced Air Mobility national strategy report required by law▶ 2:18:46.

• Rep. Mike Collins (R-GA)▶ 2:20:37: Praised merit-based ATC hiring, raised aircraft certification delays versus Europe, and asked about restoring pre-2005 sleeper-berth hours-of-service flexibility for truckers▶ 2:21:37.

• Rep. Jesús "Chuy" García (D-IL), second appearance▶ 2:23:58: Criticized funding pauses tied to immigration enforcement cooperation and questioned zeroing out Small Business Transportation Resource Center funding▶ 2:25:52; Duffy did not directly answer the question▶ 2:26:51.

• Rep. Aaron Bean (R-FL)▶ 2:27:22: Highlighted passage of the Coast Guard Reauthorization Act and Jones Act support▶ 2:27:47, and submitted a GAO report on the Federal Ship Financing Program▶ 2:29:04.

• Rep. Deborah Ross (D-NC)▶ 2:30:47: Pressed on 26% FHWA division-office staffing cuts, citing 50–60% reductions in North Carolina and Texas offices▶ 2:31:11, and asked about suspended NEVI EV-charging guidance affecting $17 million for New Hampshire... *(note: this appears to be Rep. Chris Pappas of NH based on content)*▶ 2:32:56.

• Rep. (Pennsylvania member on Duluth-area exchange): See Stauber above.

• Rep. Shontel Brown / unidentified (Ohio "Miss Sykes")▶ 2:58:49: Pressed Duffy on rail safety legislation for East Palestine, noting he had not spoken with Chairman Graves about it▶ 3:00:37, and raised Akron-Canton Airport's air traffic control tower▶ 3:01:06.

• Rep. Emilia Sykes (D-OH)▶ 2:58:49: (see above) confirmed Duffy had not discussed East Palestine rail safety legislation with the chairman▶ 3:01:06.

• Rep. Shontel Brown (D-OH)▶ 3:57:00: Chaired the reconvened session, raised Cleveland-area port funding needs▶ 3:57:52 and confirmed no air traffic controllers have been fired, citing 1,840 new hires against 305 separations▶ 3:59:40.

• Rep. Hillary Scholten (D-MI)▶ 4:00:38: Pressed for a timeline on replacing the 62-year-old Gerald R. Ford International Airport control tower▶ 4:01:27 and raised domestic sourcing of road-marking pigments▶ 4:03:27.

• Rep. (McDowell/McDall, R-NC)▶ 4:04:55: Praised the administration's response to Western North Carolina flooding and Texas flood recovery assistance▶ 4:07:30.

• Rep. Valerie Foushee (D-NC)▶ 4:08:57: Asked about obligating CRISI and Federal-State Partnership grants for the S-Line rail corridor between Raleigh and Virginia▶ 4:09:22, and pressed on multi-year surface transportation funding certainty▶ 4:10:10.

• Rep. Jeff Hurd (R-CO)▶ 4:12:38: Raised work zone safety following a fatal Mesa County crash and a 53% rise in Colorado work-zone crashes in 2024▶ 4:13:06.

• Rep. Chris Deluzio (D-PA)▶ 4:15:18: Pressed for a Railway Safety Act push tied to East Palestine and raised offshored aircraft maintenance jobs undercutting U.S. workers at Pittsburgh International Airport▶ 4:16:45.

• Rep. Shontel Brown (D-OH), self-recognized as chair▶ 4:17:44: Asked about air traffic controller retraining plans for the new automation platform▶ 4:18:13.

• Rep. Nellie Pou (D-NJ)▶ 4:20:53: Asked about Newark Airport's copper-to-fiber telecom replacement timeline▶ 4:22:07 and criticized a one-third funding cut to the Dock Bridge project▶ 4:23:32.

• Rep. James Baird / John James (R-MI, "Mr. Barrett")▶ 4:25:22: Discussed adding collision-avoidance technology to military helicopters following the DCA collision▶ 4:25:48.

• Rep. Laura Gillen (D-NY)▶ 4:28:36: Raised road safety funding for Hempstead, NY, the HALT Drunk Driving Act implementation delay, and invited Duffy to visit N90 TRACON▶ 4:30:58.

• Rep. Nick Begich (R-AK)▶ 4:31:28: Highlighted the $25 million Don Young Alaska Aviation Safety Initiative and Essential Air Service program support▶ 4:32:19.

• Rep. Shomari Figures (D-AL)▶ 4:34:45: Discussed Port of Mobile deepening, Montgomery Regional Airport, and the I-10 Bayway Bridge project funding priorities▶ 4:35:56.

• Rep. (unidentified, "Mr. Kean")▶ 4:37:50: Raised regulatory delays on an already-permitted Raleigh-Durham Airport project▶ 4:37:50.

• Rep. (unidentified, "Mr. Washington")▶ 4:41:04: Point of personal privilege thanking Duffy for his time▶ 4:41:05.

• Rep. Laurie Friedman? / Lois Frankel (D-CA area, "Miss Friedman")▶ 4:41:34: Asked about dedicated transit funding for the 2028 LA Olympics, citing Paris's €500 million transit investment▶ 4:42:01.

• Rep. Kennedy? / Utah member ("Mr. Kennedy")▶ 4:45:13: Offered Utah as a pilot state for drone/air-taxi innovation and asked about road-usage-charge advisory board scheduling▶ 4:47:41.

• Rep. Val Hoyle (D-OR)▶ 4:48:39: Raised Eugene Airport terminal grant uncertainty and Coos Bay port investment for job creation▶ 4:49:53.

• Rep. (unidentified, "Mr. Bandrew," NJ)▶ 4:52:17: Pressed on 2024 mystery-drone sightings in New Jersey and delayed federal response▶ 4:53:14.

• Rep. (unidentified, "Mr. Kylie," CA)▶ 4:55:36: Thanked Duffy for a BUILD grant near Placer County and further criticized California high-speed rail's Merced-to-Bakersfield "early operating segment"▶ 4:57:27.

• Rep. Eric Burlison (R-MO)▶ 4:59:50: Asked about UAP video disclosure through NASA, the two-person rail crew rule, and DOGE efficiency savings including $10 million cut from unused office landlines▶ 5:00:04.

Key moments

• Duffy said the department inherited 3,200 previously announced but unimplemented grants — a historic backlog compared to about 400 in 2012 — and has since cleared roughly 1,900–2,415 of them, with a target to finish the remaining review by late summer/early fall▶ 0:47:44▶ 1:09:56.

• Sharp, personal clash between Rep. Nadler and Duffy over MTA subway crime data and congestion pricing history, with both accusing the other of "lying" and Nadler citing a 4,000-page 2023 environmental assessment DOT allegedly ignored▶ 1:00:01▶ 1:01:45.

• Duffy testified the current pace of FAA facility replacement would take roughly 300 years, with his plan aiming to cut that to about 80 years, and estimated the full ATC rebuild at $31.5 billion versus the $12.5 billion already appropriated▶ 0:57:53▶ 0:59:03.

• Rep. García confronted Duffy over seven canceled university transportation research grants, six of which were in Democratic-led states, tied to Duffy's public remarks calling the prior DOT the "Department of Woke"▶ 1:07:57▶ 1:09:26.

• Duffy said 1,840 new air traffic controllers have been hired since January and 305 have separated (not fired), for a net gain of about 1,500, with a goal of 2,000 academy graduates this year and 2,500 next year▶ 3:59:40.

• Rep. Sykes pressed Duffy on his February pledge that East Palestine "will not be forgotten"; Duffy confirmed he had not spoken with Chairman Graves about any rail safety legislation▶ 3:00:37▶ 3:01:06.

• Rep. Fong and Duffy discussed California high-speed rail's cost growth from $33 billion (2008) to an estimated $128–130 billion, with only $17 billion raised after 17 years and the "early operating segment" (Merced–Bakersfield) delayed to 2033▶ 1:25:07▶ 1:26:18.

• Duffy said DOT's spending review targeted "green and social justice" requirements added by the prior administration beyond what Congress mandated, not roads and bridges funding itself, in response to accusations that grants like the Dock Bridge project were being cut▶ 2:30:18▶ 4:24:28.

• Rep. Brownley questioned SpaceX personnel embedded at the FAA reviewing air traffic control systems; Duffy said they were "guard-railed" from anything space-related and focused solely on telecom/radar equipment, not competitive bidding advantages▶ 1:42:49▶ 1:44:14.

• Duffy disclosed that nearly $800 million a year in "obsolescence fees" for legacy copper telecom equipment was being redirected by providers back into the ATC modernization budget instead of being spent maintaining outdated infrastructure▶ 1:45:30.

Metadata

Committee—
Chamber / CongressHouse · 119th Congress
DateJuly 16, 2025
TypeHearing
Witnesses
The Honorable Sean Duffy — Secretary, United States Department of Transportation
Videoyoutube
Transcript508 caption blocks · 41,427 words · 5:03:50 runtime
EventCongress.gov 118483