AILegislative hearing on DC safety, lifeguards, park leases, and firefighter aid bills

Public Lands and Energy MarkupsHouse Natural Resources Subcommittee on Federal Lands · December 2, 2025 · 119th Congress
The House Natural Resources Subcommittee on Federal Lands held a legislative hearing on five bills: H.R. Begins at ▶ 0:06:09
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Legislative hearing on DC safety, lifeguards, park leases, and firefighter aid bills

Purpose

The House Natural Resources Subcommittee on Federal Lands held a legislative hearing on five bills: H.R. 4671 (firefighter casualty assistance), H.R. 4931 (national park long-term lease extensions), H.R. 5063 (federal beach lifeguard funding), H.R. 5103 (the "Make DC Safe and Beautiful" bill), and H.R. 5254 (Gateway Arch Park private-event partnership). The session opened with a moment of silence for National Guard members Sarah Beckstrom and Andrew Wolf, shot near the White House days earlier, and much of the debate centered on D.C. crime, homelessness, and federal-local law enforcement coordination. Begins at▶ 0:06:09

Who spoke

• Chairman Tom Tiffany (R-WI)▶ 0:08:05: Opened citing a 35% rise in D.C. homicides from 2022-2023▶ 0:08:42 and argued H.R. 5103 codifies Trump's executive order to restore order in NPS-managed D.C. parkland▶ 0:11:18; later pressed Director MacLean on Union Station protest response▶ 0:41:22 and on encampment removals▶ 1:13:08.

• Rep. Jared Huffman (D-CA), Ranking Member, Full Committee▶ 0:12:41: Entered a New York Times climate-insurance article into the record▶ 0:12:41; criticized the administration for "whitewashing" history in national parks, citing Stonewall, Acadia, and Muir Woods▶ 0:15:18, and called the East Wing demolition an affront to history▶ 0:17:01.

• Rep. Bruce Westerman (R-AR), Chairman, Full Committee▶ 0:17:53: Described the National Guard shooting as personal, noted 100 Arkansas Guardsmen deploying to D.C.▶ 0:18:19, and cited over 29,000 D.C. crimes reported last year including 5,000 vehicle thefts▶ 0:19:36.

• Rep. Joe Neguse (D-CO), Ranking Member, Subcommittee▶ 0:23:11: Said the shutdown halted wildfire risk-reduction work while fossil-fuel permitting staff were retained▶ 0:23:39; later pressed Director MacLean for refusing to answer questions on bills other than H.R. 5103, calling it disrespectful to the process▶ 0:47:22▶ 0:51:53.

• Rep. Greg Murphy (R-NC)▶ 0:28:00: Introduced H.R. 4931, citing the Oregon Inlet Fishing Center public-private partnership in Dare County as a model for extending park leases▶ 0:28:24.

• Rep. Jen Kiggans (R-VA)▶ 0:30:17: Introduced H.R. 5063, describing a 2025 hiring freeze that left Assateague Island unable to hire lifeguards, and a July deal shifting costs to local governments▶ 0:30:47.

• Rep. Rob Wittman (R-VA), "Maguire"▶ 0:32:34: Introduced H.R. 5103, citing D.C.'s 4th-highest homicide rate in 2024 and vandalism of national monuments▶ 0:33:56.

• Robert MacLean, Director, DOI Office of Law Enforcement and Security▶ 0:36:16: Testified DOI supports H.R. 5103 as aligned with Executive Order 14252▶ 0:36:46, described nearly 100 encampment clearances▶ 0:54:15, and repeatedly deferred to written testimony on the other four bills▶ 0:47:53▶ 0:49:12.

• Rep. Michelle Fischbach (R-MN), "Miss Malloy"▶ 0:52:52: Asked how DOI coordinates encampment removal with public safety▶ 0:53:47 and high-visitation area security like the National Mall▶ 0:55:41.

• Rep. Marilyn Strickland (D-WA), "Miss Randall"▶ 0:56:56: Established Interior officers don't conduct immigration enforcement▶ 0:57:25, then cited the Bear Gulch Fire, where 44 crew members were held up by immigration checks▶ 0:59:33.

• Rep. Pete Stauber (R-MN)▶ 1:02:31: Asked about jurisdictional overlap and mutual aid among D.C. law enforcement agencies▶ 1:03:01; pressed on Park Police retention issues▶ 1:06:20 and touted H.R. 1260, the Park Police Modernization Act▶ 1:07:03.

• Rep. Jeff Kennedy (R-UT), "Doctor Kennedy"▶ 1:08:03: Described local staff being victims of shootings near the Capitol▶ 1:09:44 and thanked MacLean and later witnesses for their service▶ 2:08:58.

• Gregory Pemberton, Chairman, D.C. Police Union Lodge #2▶ 1:20:23: Said MPD has fallen from ~3,900 sworn officers in 2020 to under 3,200 today, with over 800 vacancies▶ 1:21:23, and cited 500+ incidents on federal parkland in 2024▶ 1:22:13.

• Kenneth Spencer, Government Affairs Chief of Staff, U.S. Park Police FOP▶ 1:25:32: Honored the shot Guard members and Ms. Cook's grandson▶ 1:25:58; said Park Police protect ~160,000 visitors daily across 30,000+ acres but are hundreds of officers short of the 650 needed▶ 1:27:48.

• Forlesia Cook, grandmother of murder victim Marty William McMillan▶ 1:31:11: Testified her grandson's killer received only a second-degree murder plea and could serve as little as 7 years▶ 1:32:27, and said it took nine months to find his remains near Suitland Parkway▶ 1:56:50.

• Robert Woodard, Chairman, Dare County Board of Commissioners▶ 1:34:51: Supported H.R. 4931, describing the Oregon Inlet Fishing Center lease and the risk of losing the investment without extension authority▶ 1:37:51.

• Denise Bowden, Mayor, Town of Chincoteague▶ 1:40:05: Supported H.R. 5063, saying lifeguard coverage lasted only 35 days last summer and the town is still owed roughly $14,000 in reimbursement▶ 1:42:26▶ 2:20:45.

• Dr. Matthew Rahn, Director, The Wildfire Conservancy▶ 1:42:55: Supported H.R. 4671 but urged pairing it with prevention measures, citing a 40-60% reduction in cancer-marker exposure from clean gear▶ 2:02:04.

• Ryan McClure, Executive Director, Gateway Arch Park Foundation▶ 1:48:07: Supported H.R. 5254, saying the foundation-led $380 million City Arch River project generated $572 million in regional economic impact▶ 1:50:11 and projected $780,000 in new annual revenue from private events▶ 1:51:49.

• Rep. Kim Schrier (D-WA), "Miss Dexter"▶ 1:58:46: A pulmonologist, questioned Dr. Rahn on respiratory and dermal protections for wildland firefighters▶ 1:59:13▶ 2:01:10.

• Rep. Jeff Crank (R-CO)▶ 2:22:25: Cited a roughly 30% national rise in homicide rates under the Biden administration▶ 2:22:52 and D.C.'s Comprehensive Policing and Justice Reform Amendment Act as weakening accountability▶ 2:24:45.

Key moments

• Chairman Tiffany and Ranking Member Huffman clashed over framing: Tiffany linked H.R. 5103 to falling crime under Trump's executive orders, citing a 58% drop in violent crime and nearly 100 encampment clearances▶ 0:21:46, while Huffman called the bill "Trump's assault on home rule" and cited a reinstalled Confederate statue as evidence of history being rewritten▶ 0:16:33▶ 1:00:38.

• Neguse repeatedly pressed Director MacLean, who could only testify on H.R. 5103 and had to refer questions on the other four bills to written DOI statements, prompting Neguse to say he could not "in good faith" support markup without answers▶ 0:47:53▶ 0:52:22.

• Pemberton testified MPD sworn staffing fell from nearly 3,900 in 2020 to under 3,200 today, with more than 800 vacancies, and that violent crime remains 15% above 2020 levels despite recent progress▶ 1:21:23▶ 1:21:46.

• Spencer said U.S. Park Police need at least 650 officers to meet essential missions but are hundreds short, and linked H.R. 5103's success to H.R. 1260, the Park Police Modernization Act, to fix pay and retention▶ 1:27:48▶ 1:28:43.

• Forlesia Cook testified her grandson Marty McMillan was shot seven times and his body was left on Suitland Parkway for nine months before being found by a Park Service worker; his killer pleaded to second-degree murder, potentially serving as little as 7 years▶ 1:33:01▶ 1:56:50.

• Strickland cited the Bear Gulch Fire, where 44 wildland firefighting crew members were held up for hours by CBP immigration checks requested by BLM/Forest Service, questioning DOI's stated separation from immigration enforcement▶ 1:00:01▶ 1:00:24.

• Bowden testified lifeguard coverage on Assateague lasted only 35 days last summer due to a delayed federal-local funding agreement, and Chincoteague and Accomack County remain unreimbursed roughly $14,000 each▶ 1:41:58▶ 2:20:45.

• McClure said Gateway Arch National Park currently hosts zero private events due to staffing limits, despite the site generating $572 million in regional economic impact and a projected $780,000 in new annual revenue if H.R. 5254 passes▶ 1:49:50▶ 1:51:49.

• Woodard and Murphy said current law forces re-bidding leases after any term, discouraging investment; the Oregon Inlet Fishing Center lessee has invested millions but cannot extend before a new competitive bid under current law▶ 1:37:51▶ 1:38:15.

• Rahn testified wildland firefighters often work 12-24 hour shifts for days or weeks in the same contaminated gear without decontamination, calling their equipment "a hazardous materials site on their backs," and cited a 90% reduction in particle exposure using new dermal-protective fabric▶ 2:01:35▶ 2:02:29.

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Official titleLegislative hearing on five bills: • H.R. 4671 (Rep. Harder), “Ensuring Casualty Assistance for our Firefighters Act” • H.R. 4931 (Rep. Murphy of NC), “National Park System Long-Term Lease Investment Act” • H.R. 5063 (Rep. Kiggans), “Safe Beaches, Safe Swimmers Act” • H.R. 5103 (Rep. McGuire), “Make the District of Columbia Safe and Beautiful Act” • H.R. 5254 (Rep. Bell), “Gateway Partnership Act of 2025”
CommitteeHouse Natural Resources Subcommittee on Federal Lands
Chamber / CongressHouse · 119th Congress
DateDecember 2, 2025
TypeHearing
Witnesses
Ms. Forlesia Cook
Mr. Ryan McClure — Executive Director, Gateway Arch Park Foundation
Mr. Robert MacLean — Director, Office of Law Enforcement and Security, U.S. Department of the Interior
Mr. Greggory Pemberton — Chairman, D.C. Police Union Lodge #2 of the Fraternal Order of Police
Mr. Ryan McClure — Executive Director, Gateway Arch Park Foundation
Ms. Forlesia Cook
Mr. Robert Woodard — Chairman, Dare County Board of Commissioners
Ms. Denise Bowden — Mayor, Town of Chincoteague
Dr. Matthew Rahn — Director, The Wildfire Conservancy
Mr. Robert MacLean — Director, Office of Law Enforcement and Security, U.S. Department of the Interior
Mr. Greggory Pemberton — Chairman, D.C. Police Union Lodge #2 of the Fraternal Order of Police
Mr. Kenneth Spencer — Government Affairs Chief of Staff, United States Park Police Fraternal Order of Police
Mr. Robert Woodard — Chairman, Dare County Board of Commissioners
Ms. Denise Bowden — Mayor, Town of Chincoteague
Dr. Matthew Rahn — Director, The Wildfire Conservancy
Mr. Kenneth Spencer — Government Affairs Chief of Staff, United States Park Police Fraternal Order of Police
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