▶ 0:12:28We apologize for that. The camen impressive two meeting and, uh, we wanted a lot. >> well, we appreciate his, uh s committee. >> I am sorry for keeping people waiting as you like I value eve.
▶ 0:12:56Now, back rules committee is convening. Consider following separate sent is to h.r. 1488, a rez 142, h.r.
▶ 0:13:1249 1194 68 and nine for 69 to report accompanying reservations to recommending that the house find for clinton and former clinton in contempt f person. Before we get into the substance, I'll touch on points. First, spent their dc. E weather's not very kind.
▶ 0:13:40Its ths very important and we all. Know that to be true. That many challenges right now. The good s weekend to read all those focused 250th anniversary obstacles that were overcome to establish our great country.
▶ 0:14:05This is we negative and don't put our misses in truth is that we need a balanced unfortunate incident that took place in minneapolis recently. Say that violence of any kind. Is different and any deaths a deep on our hearts. Uncanny to agree.
▶ 0:14:34With that sentiment regarding political sy strong feelings and I hope palpe nation, public calm and that we can be models for that. Concerning of an end,n invest a nation to the long investigation by.
▶ 0:15:03Justd about appropriations. Measure before us tranche of appropriations sits opposite us and to the surprise of absolutely no one, the legislation the of for even a me appropriation process, flirt
▶ 0:15:37With the shutdown. But decided . >> now we're. Back here, caught in a malaise, the world's greatest deliberative, the torpedo the process. >> as with the to do to describs disappointing. Would be an understatement. I've been over and there's much more business we need to attend.
▶ 0:16:06To in a delay like this, and on to the remaining items. 42 congressional review act resolution provides. For approval of the dc income and rn temporary amendment act of. 2025.
▶ 0:16:36Last year, the council of passed legislative measure, its own tax specific provisions within the. Working families tax cut measure would do. The council approach would resis thereby increasing taxes on and small.
▶ 0:17:01Businesses within the district and this disapproval resolution we impose tax. Hikes in the punishing its citizens while other and. To the tax cuts . This is hip light. Of other demands that the dc council.
▶ 0:17:28House report 1194 and house report 11946 reports accompanying contempt of congress resolution motions clim the oversight committee. Bill and hillary. >> duly issued subpoenas that can tell their ao the select committee in relation to the committee into.
▶ 0:17:58Bill to y issued subpoenas. Subpoenas unds lee in. One of the oversight subcommittees, present proceedig with these continuing resolutions american people thas apply equally of position and pedigree, pursuing referring to,
▶ 0:18:29The act, legislation that certain indicative orders relating to domestic mining and hard. H.r. 49 would require the to identify priority mining projects on federal land all necessary stepr
▶ 0:19:01, its legal and. Regulatory bottlenecks. Finding by directing the department of the interior to reviewing its roadblocks on the local levels, as well streamline domestic mining here at the. Rules committee and as armed to the spirit in discussions that we'll have go to the member, Mr.
▶ 0:19:32Mcgovern, for any comments. >> madam have a lot of bills that are going be rules. So my opening might be just a little bit longer today.s our first meeting since shot anv house. Pretty alex was exercising, filming federal. Agents on a public street.
▶ 0:19:56The t . And for the outrageous crime of helping off the ground. After she had been pushed over, he government. I would like him and the other victims of government, including renee goode, who was also shot and killed without.
▶ 0:20:29>> madam chair, um, which was added to our agenda and let me be crystal clear. >> um, I will be voting. I. Refuse to send another sent our constitution and is murdering american citizens in the streets impeached. And he ought to be fired. I disgusting I. Just checked social media.
▶ 0:20:57Neither apologized for smearing alex priti as a terrorist or an assassin. There those were lies. Lies that were people auto immediately employee for their own partizan . And I refuse. To fund such a lawless out of. I will not vote for business as usual.
▶ 0:21:24While meant to people's homes without a judicial warrant amendment. Just last week, a united states said that quote likely violated theirs. In january. 2026, the. Violated in their entire existence that is inexcusable. And I have heard the any any money.
▶ 0:21:49Why not just vote for two weeks this agency o seconds? Let communities and acting like that is my red line. And I think it should be the wat support the massive glut of eite so-called department of war, when peace is to use
▶ 0:22:20Money that we're appropriating to bomb venezuela and break the law more money than asked for? I mean, really, pete. Signe gummy bombing boats in the caribbean and committing so I was a no two weeks ago. And on top of now we now we from trump's connections to and pretend.
▶ 0:22:50Like they are in favor when in fact they are not people and tapes. Republicans on the. Voted nine times knocking the. Files nine times. They voted. And we all we the files. But then he changed his tune.
▶ 0:23:17In, uh, we had to go. We had to had to go around in congress just to get a vote on signed into law. Now, none of that is because according to our president, epstein was terrific.
▶ 0:23:40I and a lot of fun to because epstein, like women I mean, and jeffrey epstein loved him. Donald trump's closest friend. That's what he let his closest friend fly on his private jet. W the. Sent teenage girls to epstein's mansion for house. Oh because donald trump can confess to us.
▶ 0:24:09Stole a 16 year old girl from then trafficked her to a succession of who sexually abused her. Epstein trump. Knew of it and came to my house many times, wrote wow, let me let that sink in. Donald trump is commerce secretary.
▶ 0:24:32Howard, me keep ireland, his former top adviser eli go to island and his top confidant steve of the island. And when jeffrey epstein, most mysterious circumstances in it donald trump and of course, let's not.
▶ 0:24:55Epstein's accomplice, who trump moved from south to a country club prison relax, relax out. I mean, for the record, she's serving 20 years deemed molest and raped children to quote, I wish her well. So I get. It. This administration of the weight of their ever expanding ties to rape. Ring.
▶ 0:25:25And rather than do the right thing rape subject. But please, please do not incel by trying. To make this conversation the clintons have y called for the government. All the epstein files, unlike would release. Them all.
▶ 0:25:45But then he backtracked, admits that not bef the answer questions about what. Thg to testify under president trump , testified his.
▶ 0:26:095360 and the documents released so far. I was . In 361. Democrats want answer answers from up to the current president of the united states you guys and us? We weren't files lead. You are where.
▶ 0:26:33The files lead. You're not standing with the why is this white house still covering up the truth? Why aren't republican from pam bondi about the client list on her desk. Remember that and why yet ? Released all the draft indictments.
▶ 0:27:01Fbi's victims and which criminally implicates specific individuals. While manh patel quote, there is no credible information in it's subpoenaing mar-a-lago.
▶ 0:27:20Uh trump's, uh, you know, documents which a picture, uh, directly linked to epstein's trafficking. Why, after over a year of broken promises, law ths posted a month we still waiting? If they have, I think is on the up, why is the administration?
▶ 0:27:52Why why are they exposing the specifically not allowed to do. So instead of the names attorney said in response. The latest release. Oh, there no conceivable degree of . See and persistence of. Madam chair, we should listen to victims say. And I quote once again.
▶ 0:28:21Survivors are having their names who abused us and hd protected the victims not have e full truth about in his exploitn and who has been shielded for years.
▶ 0:28:41It is time to demand transferability from anyone who was crimes, no matter their two, and including the und states, who is it? Files. Up to his eyeballs and bill to try to strip the district of columbia. Uh, of even. More autonomy. Um.
▶ 0:29:09And let me just say, I am tired. Of columbia. They pay since their r military, and they don't have a vote in this congress. It is shameful. Uh, and our all that tries to micromanage their kids and wrong.
▶ 0:29:32Uh, and we're going to be debating bill that helps mining drain their actions moree things. And with that, madam, I yield back without statements? Mrs. may will be. Included in the record.
▶ 0:30:00Welcome our cole, former of this member from the committee full statement will be that your statement testimony. >> thank you very the committeee the today . While the moment certainly feels.
▶ 0:30:29Familiar, the issues before. Wouldn't let me start with the simple reminder designh here may have been, responsibility is the same to keep it the nation members. The underlying packages assembled and by the.
▶ 0:30:52House two weeks ago and why 26 appropriations been sent amendmt fully funds five for the remaine department of homeland two weekg resolution of funding before us.
▶ 0:31:16Today's full year must cover, te departments of labor, health and human services and education. Transportation and housing, and urban development. The department many agencies related to these departments, not optional.
▶ 0:31:34It's part of our article one duties and room house and senate struck a bipartisan and bicameral on theg appropriations bills for fiscal year 2020. Would. The house acted judiciously and appropriately before leaving for our scheduled.
▶ 0:32:01However the senas altered acknowledge the operations of this nation, and I share in those sentimentsr obligation is not to our things, to the 80% of something is better than 100% of nothing.
▶ 0:32:25And most approe of action was for the vote to we created it, senate differentd so left here in the hops and wet . My view is we should take it.
▶ 0:32:48Today's bill will our remaining six appropriations bills for 46, including our two largest measure and human servis education department. It. Will also include a two week final be department of homeland security , which will give some on that measure.
▶ 0:33:13President engaged demon good faith clear that the government, the, is wrong, conft once these discussions are completed, the final mirror of the negotiated in the house, passede bill unlike this gag gap, uh, funded armors and a pay raise
▶ 0:33:45For our coast guard our air traffic controllers to support firefighters and first responders. Responders strength disaster preparedness, and enhanced fentanyl. So today. Is groundhog day. Regrettably. But doing the right thing for the american. I thank each time andl members to support this bipartisan package. And I look.
▶ 0:34:15>> thank you. Mr. cole. Ranking for the laura you're. Recognized. Thank you, chairman fox. And ranking member mcgovern . >> the members of the rule, eddie, appreciate the opportunity to testify to my the for your funding before us stroo remain in the house with long ao
▶ 0:34:49Seeing these bills. The administration to eviscerate public service, reversing a the protect democratic authorities, national reassert control of the.
▶ 0:35:13What is different and senate have duratf funding provided for the department of. Homeland security. Cutting. Funding through the end of september. The met's funding allow for toun and to produce an agreement on measure, protect our communities and.
▶ 0:35:45Protect our communities from being for any abuse. Posed the of the hout simply endorsed a continuation of ice policy, lawless agency. We to radically reform to require judl warrant prohibit detained or ded , an oversight.
▶ 0:36:13And reconciliation funds conduct. That means asks off. Badges on real egregious abuses. Of alex , son was on her way home her dog in the back
▶ 0:36:45Seat of her car. She taunting her and I quote, I'm not mad at you. End quote. Before turning the learned from him. He shot. Her three times in the. Through the open drive by him. O emerged killing the trump. Mr. terrorism instead. Of investigating her death, they.
▶ 0:37:12N meacham have immunity, end quote, following f homeland security, jared miller again, just to make sure that yr her, that administration, ben miller, whoe was the architect of and there e
▶ 0:37:48A number of those children separated who have with their fo and a half weeks later, alex per sprayed pistol whips in broad cs that he, according to the video circulating after the clapping, cheering, exciting as dead.
▶ 0:38:12He n who had thrown to the pavement. Unprovoked by the same murder, p administration claimed. That he too was a domestic terrorist, that down federal officers. >> none of those beers contain an ounce of truth.
▶ 0:38:41>> yes at a va hospital who was trying to protect his from unlawful abuses by customs and border protection. He heard. He has not been charged with. And after. Sustained public outcry, the denounced the opened an investigation into his killing.
▶ 0:39:08This has, not only for its officers who good but for all te been beaten lawfully detained law residents who wereg about agents, their past. >> I will support this package.
▶ 0:39:35>> funding for the five bipartisan from the, transportad housing and urban development, health and human services, state .
▶ 0:39:49And treasury for the year, which extends funding at current law, calls for ten days that its leverage to see where the protections that we need for ift be able sure continue.
▶ 0:40:15The american peoe are for your time. And I look forward to answering your questions. >> laura, I'm going to defer my question. Buck recognized. Thank you, madam chair. >> I here. And I think Mr. davis, um , so, um, quickly.
▶ 0:40:44I think you mentioned in your opening statement because when we left,t was our understanding that it was going. >> that's, uh, your there was an agreement with the senate, uh, the bill in a bipartisan fashion . Uh.
▶ 0:41:13We tried to work closely , one thing wanted a separate vote on that bill to work out. Uh, and you were kind of that opportunity. Uh, and then been. Arguing all along. We should have been doing this earlier.
▶ 0:41:42And I better way to proceed. It's in one bill. And so we asked for, uh, and then they decided I'm not ti happened in minnesota impact. But but they change the deals. That wasn't done direct negotiation between the president.
▶ 0:42:10And the minority leader. And procedurally that requires us. Then again. But there's no substantive disagreement, uh, that. We've negotiated any they've. Passed the senate. And if we pass them here, those will became my friend and ranking said, uh, the room.
▶ 0:42:37So other negotiations can occur. At thata conclusion or but. What we won', our percent of the content, our military. Will be paid.
▶ 0:42:54Uh, you know, uh, we secure important ps that support our mup, and we don't have disagreement there or the negotiation. So putting those things.
▶ 0:43:17To do, working on the area, that contention is probably the appropriate thing to do. I would have preferred all six be accepted as negotiation time. The senate done this, uh, in the .
▶ 0:43:36Uh, they asked for in cr, which, they lasted for a, uh, and then they introduced uh, which were health care facilities and uh, undoing medicaid before the law president signed, uh , earlier. So uh, you know, it's pretty hard.
▶ 0:44:01They and it, uh, because the agreement that we're to this, bg where we have and care of that shouldn't be subject to this. Controversy. And then move on to a negotiations at the highest level.
▶ 0:44:29And on the department of homeland security right now, there of moves by both party uh, uh, you know, to continue that at that point. But just opportunity of, uh, past te government shutdown.
▶ 0:44:52I mean, wee going to be aren't getting pay raises to air contre coast guard, where we don't have money in reserve for that. We have one undergoing right now. Uh. Uh, protectors overseas. Wonder whether their families here are going to be safe.
▶ 0:45:20Uh, so. Let's solve the range of problems actual bipartisan. Agreement and negotiate work. On this remaining problem. >> and I agree hoping that a mae folks with with you because I just you're absolutely 94% open and I'm just the disappointed that I mean, when we left, you know
▶ 0:45:52Was supposed to come in that that was struck was not, um, was not, uh, deeply disappointing. Because I know that everybody, um. And we took the happen. So, you know need to ke% open and let that that's being held hostage. Uh exchange it the way, um, that we will that.
▶ 0:46:22But in the meantime, what's going to be other done? Um, you . Looked like at one point you were going to. I think Mr. mcgovern, you're recognized. >> yeah. I don't really lot of s before us. My opening statement. But surely you understand the controversy over over all of this?
▶ 0:46:49I mean, we have, uh, shotf homeland security, greg bovino just lie about it. And so there's a loss of mean, m at all.
▶ 0:47:10This administration, I'm even even in the last few days that on responding, uh, to the tragedy, tell me the correct time, never mind to negotiate a good uh, on ice. That's. Where the that's where the angst is.
▶ 0:47:29That's concern frn people is coming from is that when ice and being told something very different, it is um, and there's, you know, and they can't bring themselves to say they were wrong or that they, um, and, and it and it is I'm just you it is.
▶ 0:47:49I mean, in fact, um, I appreciate the work that the work of staff, uh, I know these times, but I just want to clarify theih testified on the funding bills a few weeks ago, I've been reading some press coming out of my friends on the other side of
▶ 0:48:20The aisle. Some of the press releases and the order has finally been restored . So one house republican said, quote, nine years. House has passed all appropriations, one seat majority regular order has returned. Senator congratulated the republican on on this accomplishment, saying, quote, that's not and referred to you, chairman call. He's the first appropriate.
▶ 0:48:50So since 1997, end quote have great resps this really the first time has 2 appropriation bills focused on what's that?. >> but just for the for the record, is not the first time in 29 years the house bill. 199.
▶ 0:49:21So I keep. Referring to is the last time appropriation bills on time. All clear. First zero appropriation on past year, zero, the. Government shut down in october. And why eight is part and second congress regularly passed bills. It had .
▶ 0:49:52Until last year. We offered. Entirety of fiscal year. In conk into. November 2025. For 13. Look, a to get a single appropriation bill in fact, we've continued to operate under a partial cr shutdown over the weekend.
▶ 0:50:16This funding 26 stands out in two setting recors that two shutdowns in cycle two shutdowns. Secondly the cut out of the amendment process in fiscal year 2026, only fiscal yr received a.
▶ 0:50:45When you were the rules chair during the call, you for amendments on 11 creation bills . Um, fy 24 cycle, nearly three times more floor than in this c. So out here, claiming victory and nonexistence, I think it's important that we that.
▶ 0:51:12We assess you know, his abysmal, uh, because. Truth matters and the facts are the sets a standard where they want to sayr it's based on truth or facts.
▶ 0:51:29But in this institution is not exaggerate, um, or not make things I say this, madam chair, um, and again, my colleagues being back. Mcgovern. >> Mr. roy, you recognized.
▶ 0:51:52Is l in front of, uh, that is the package of five of the appropriate. For homeland? Uh appropriating at a level that is , uh, our current level of funding, bills.
▶ 0:52:23>> yes. >> it. Right. So total pending the resolution, homeland bill. Uh, that would be in spending. Year over year, the math quirks and do accounting year over. >> that's correct. And just for the record, bill.
▶ 0:52:44That this body passed, that the house homeland spending by $600 million a cr ws quo. That's correct. Yeah. The second year in a row that we've less at the beginning of the year.
▶ 0:53:04All e have general terms, to the dollar, to the penny, three fiscal years, discretionary spending flat. >> that's correct. For three consecutive, um, is that.
▶ 0:53:28A, uh, normal occurrence now, normally, uh, the discretionary by. 3 to 5% a year, sometimes, uh, and over a lot of money. >> I mean amount to something for a.
▶ 0:53:53Ten year by just simply holding to catch up with expenditures. Question fiscally, uh, this helps. But again. And you and I drivers there are the, uh, main . Spending whatever you want to use. That's, uh, budget.
▶ 0:54:20Uh about 26% or so of all through the appropriations e a pretty. Uh, the numbers really good job. Over the last three it not also true?
▶ 0:54:40Without getting too much spending, last summer, we obviously passed the big come to be known, uh, that had a reformy spending, a speaking here is, is what we have that we have moved the not as far as I would do if I was just the moved the needle with respect.
▶ 0:55:08Of our government. >> that's great. >> so the point that I make, and I'll be mindful that we use, that I think. We're going to have the homelan. I do want to remind people to which the men and women.
▶ 0:55:41Americans all backgrounds. Economic um, and being. Dangerous. Individual always. >> that's correct.
▶ 0:56:04>> and over the people when you look at the example an individual here with conviction homicide and robbery admitted of minnesota and that was involved with rape and forgery and obstruction and arrest for drug possession, individual and.
▶ 0:56:32Driving under the influence who is a convicted sex offender and convicted of. Multiple arrests for driving assault, making terrorist. Threats, an individual weapon, larceny, assault, possession of cocaine and robbery with weapond assault with a gun. And the agen individual with fraud, influence. An individual with driving under an assault and possession.
▶ 0:57:02And I could go individuals multiple counts of credit card, substance possession and trafficking. Three prior as well for assault previously arrest battery.
▶ 0:57:17These are individuals and I'm only touching the tip iceberg of the end of women have been engaged from the streets of the united states as a direct administration, with wide open borders on to our streets and endangering the people.
▶ 0:57:40So right now, what we have in front of us is a it will only fund the men. For 14 days over the to remind people why there are work togeta bipartisan basis to produce lawk . What. Needs to be done to be able to secure the fund?
▶ 0:58:09Our une department of war and at flat spending and now we're going tor two weeks. I'm going to be fighting like for the men and wn of border patrol. This nation at are endangering the people of the united states.
▶ 0:58:36Is an absolute hard line in the sand, and have that battle over the next two weeks, have te save act, because, yes, you shor verification to vote. These are common 80% plus issues. Poll highly on a biased basis w. And the final point will say cre house and bipartisan.
▶ 0:59:04And on hol that we included bill absurditye payday. We had unanimous vote t. I'm thankful for chip on in notn this bill. With that, I'll yield back the chair much.
▶ 0:59:33Roy, miss e recognized. You. Had yield. I, Mr. mcgovern gentleman who just spoke, I agree, kevin, getting earmark, h was a kind of a, uh, for, uh, for lindsey graham and senators, we.
▶ 0:59:57I also agree that all the, uh, it should be removed from the united states.e year old object to american citizens being murdered in the street. I object, being detained because, um, you know, uh, an innocent, uh, said gunpor without a tent of his four year old grandchild. Grandchild? You U.S.
▶ 1:00:26Citizen wen his lunch and mass. He just ripped a woman from. She she wa. Citizen. I mean citizen on his a bank pulled agents he should wrap up their stop of another individual before school age children.
▶ 1:00:50Moments later, the in the back o and stormed an apartment complex by helicopter. As lloyd chemical agents near a public school. Citizens are carrying fear of detained without of native amero are U.S. citizens. Being detained by ice. Their custody in it was isis here in two decades.
▶ 1:01:17So I'm sorry, that's where um, and wani mean, and I'm sorry, but talking about, you know, saving taxpayers, uh, you know, reducing the dollars in this.
▶ 1:01:33In you the fact that you added four in college debt and the big that funny math works in this, but I works anywhere else in this country. That's insult to the american people. Intelligence somehow say . That we're being responsible. And, you know, when you add $4 trillion to the debt and then.
▶ 1:02:04>> thank you. Mr. mcgovern. >> I like you. I, uh, from laste ground has changed isis a blank check in hopes that things will work out into fails to meet concerns of a overwhelming majority of immedie end to the violence. Lawlessness, and chaos across this. Country.
▶ 1:02:34Look, we need coe involving four year old year's o was detained with his father in minnesota detention center. In texas. The.
▶ 1:02:57That's what we're think we woule in anything like this position s happening, liam now ty's child. He is clearly not the worst the excuse for detaining liam. Well, his father .
▶ 1:03:21Has no criminal states or in e lawfully applied for asylum in this of our rules, laws. He applied through the patrol. He followedl the making his appointments here.
▶ 1:03:40U.s he was working as a construction worker to not public this is. A big ugly, violent out on the streets of america. Run by christy miller and president donald j says nothing has has changed between these bills passed.
▶ 1:04:08>> I think changes the hypocrisy. Efforts has been and um, cite tt appearance in little liam's case. >> it's very brief. And out tha. The court said, and I quote this court and others were undocumented people to prison and orders them deported legal .
▶ 1:04:40Here's said problem in this itsl conceived and implemented government procedures of daily. Apparentlyt requires traumatizing children and uh, chairwoman, I would ask that we I introduce into the ree three page opinion from the texas district >> thank you.
▶ 1:05:07Thank you after th and even after exposing what happened, whose. Family did not commit any crimes, let's trump is threatening to send ice to more, say, agents tear gassed and peaceful labor union . Marchers in oregon are.
▶ 1:05:33Still abusing citizens and not federal agents. People and children holding people at d non-citizens. The like and people's houses to be even to cs rather backing down just, you know, and stephen miller. Are not forcing them.
▶ 1:05:57Ue done peaceful protesters, um, exercise putting them be harassed using people.
▶ 1:06:12In detention facilities, deny caree deaths in including he wasn't of the 32 people this died in ice custody along with I think we're up to this of weeksm not going to look money. Ice ani noem, until we enact, can stop the unlawful. Conduct and violence. Then to get out of ma.
▶ 1:06:44No more invasions of city, no houses, no arrest without warrant. This week. It's up to republicans whether the government I'm not going to carry their water. We won't be complicit in utter lawlessnes continues. >> look here. >> this year, republicans gave ice billions. They're not going, with a tin cup on corner doesn't now.
▶ 1:07:12But at the same time, theyn extending a three months ago, republicans refused to extend those tax the prior tx appropriations, but they. Promised to work on the aca after that round of appropriations passed. I think the speaker said he's going to spend that. Well, the tax is expired and house a plan to reduce cost.
▶ 1:07:41Millions of afford their health coverage on wednesday, just this past. Wednesday, I met with the folks who manage many people have lost coverage because of to the tax credit.
▶ 1:07:56I met with a small business owner whose premiums, have increased from they're 36 health insurance, a 12,000 increase small businesses can'tn afford to keep his attorneys. He's considering dropping it.
▶ 1:08:24>> but house and senate republicans not taking we did fh the house. >> so I don't trust a deal with push these spending bills through still. Haven't dealt with the aca tax credit system after the last bie lucy and trump brown. I'm not a. >> they're rushing through the spending to end the government violence in our cities.
▶ 1:08:53All the while letting working americans drown in us congress? It would rather give? Asked for armed agents bill health care are better than thii sincerely hope we. Can find a path forward for the till then. I oppose this package. Thank you . >> thank you, Mr.. Mr.
▶ 1:09:20Scott, you're recognized uh immigration and customs, enforce this. The whole department of homeland. >> that's correct. >> and the. There was an unfortunate accident off of guard. Performed the search and rescue mission. Uh, they did not find any survivors.
▶ 1:09:48Um, a couple of ago, I think a week ago, the us, uh, ice breaker to go, uh, a ship that was stranded in the ice. Uh, is that correct? >> I well, it. It is quite normal.
▶ 1:10:09>> I'm sure it this permanent hs enforcement, that united states coast guard, uh, customs and border, the police. I mean, we know that democrats want open them to the biden administration. They allowed, you know, upon millions people into this country illegally in this country.
▶ 1:10:37But, um, aside from. Got, uh, sectioh is border patrol station, who they most people know them as the ones that run security. Their statement. That's correct. Okay I've already mentioned secret. It's also under department of homeland.
▶ 1:11:04Uh, you've got what's known as cisa , the critical. I'm sorry, and e security agent, fema. Which is also under the department. >> uh, citizenship and citizensd immigration. Uh, federal law enforcement training centers, all and when you.
▶ 1:11:29Do the continuing resolution, what does it do to those agencies as wellt guard.. I mean, the this is ridiculous demand from the democratic party that we have a department of homeland security.
▶ 1:12:02Uh the plan is a shutdown, but we're going to be right back. Io people were killed. Am. I, I wish it hadn't happened. Ot just in the same state, but the exact same city. Understanding right ice is carrying out an operation around the country.
▶ 1:12:30Is operating in minneapolis. Are they? Mr. cole ? >> that's. >> but the difference is in other state democratic run city governors, local law enforcement agencies, uh, and in minneapolis , uh, my understanding is that
▶ 1:13:01Those agencies have been given orders not to do their job. I'm sorry that deceased. The fact of the matter is arrested and put in jail. When he kicked out the tail of the officers were in. And the democrats talki intend. To vote for the cole.
▶ 1:13:22B, won't this country, our , to move forward? Um understanding is, and I think. D security bill passed the house of representatives had de-escalation training.
▶ 1:13:53Enforcement, is that correct? Bs have done, stopped. The de-escalation training for us, for enforcement. Correct? Correct. The de-escalation training is important and um, I wish. That that the de-escalation training was there.
▶ 1:14:17I have as it was the last and with, uht the american citizens is bigger than immigration and customs enforcement. And they're able to operate effectively, more effectively in other states because there's by radical mayor, an radical, um.
▶ 1:14:44The, the local law given orders by. Right. They're not to help from the standpoint of what local law enforcement is gentle, is back. >> now, recognize I think the chairman cole.
▶ 1:15:09I presume you agree with what the judge state blue state issue is that that's your no. >> you radical governors versus governors. Uh debate bete two. Yeah. I mean, try not to his mouth.
▶ 1:15:28But at the same time, it's not Mr..a quote. Quote? I think the dead on causing deep concerns over americans don't like. Right now take a guess who might have the governor of oklahoma, someone I it said on tv a ago.
▶ 1:16:01>> so this notion that purely an issue in democratic states with democratic mayors clearly heard over the of the last several week, among the vast majority of americans offended at what they see, ice doing now with respect to the gentleman from different sub agencies with the I he expressed more than tha
▶ 1:16:44Secretary noem has talked about abolishing. Now forced to listen about, uh, from must do everything we can to save fema y noem was discussing abolishing it security. Cisa the trump administration is by a third, a third division. And I'm baffled.
▶ 1:17:09Statements from my colleagues that that this that we would, uh, have a continuing resolution for cyber security division that that would put them in a tough secref homeland security, the trump administration colleagues, I will also say I wish I, were he, Mr. roy and I can perhaps relay this to him. Uh hear him.
▶ 1:17:36Some this. Bill as an example, as a responsibility is too much to bear having somebody every week for the better part of the jew t they week the proposed $1.7 trillion presents a $24 billion compared to 2025
▶ 1:18:09Levels, $80 billion above the. 2030 acts budget. Nonbinding budget played a part in negotiating, as you all will remember, and by the way, this doesn't include.
▶ 1:18:24Dollars that republicans allocated the department of security specifically ice, last year in r reasons as to why you think serve to be passed. But fiscal.
▶ 1:18:49Responsibility cannot be one eml evidence makes that fiscal year 2026 will mark. Since the passage of the fiscal responsibility that congress will. Not have statutorily binding. So spare us the responsibility when this bill ignores early to say nothing of.
▶ 1:19:17By the way, the discussion around for the chairman of the ranking member of from my collee from south carolina. And you know his again railed about earmarks that I've attended and I guess is prepared to vote on every earmark one could conceive of.
▶ 1:19:38A elevator's elevator repair at new york city's or to understanding how the gentleman fiscal responsibility for his constituents in any event that I would ask of the chairman and the ranking, of course, security, because the story, of course, with respect to the bill that we're concerned
▶ 1:20:08Is the context of what's happening across you've heard from, uh, myself included, and why I'll be voting against to the floor tomorrow if it gets there. Mr. cole. I've. Heard I'm sure, from of yours about our that secretary nome should be impeached.
▶ 1:20:37You agree with that or what you think of impeachment? >> that hasn't you know, and, uh, if you want to have impeachment, go right ahead . You offer, uh, a but that's really not what we're process. R you, but and funding the unfundw , we're paying men and.
▶ 1:21:05Women to defend it. We're not paying you brought us all here. That flew safely. We're not funding the government. You know, the things are important. The senate . I don't agree with what they did.
▶ 1:21:25Okay, let's set aside two weeks here and a weeks the rest of this stuff is really,, extrat to the country. Bill does is keep funding that I've opened this made a very impassioned case, answered my. Question as you heard from the ranking sentiments.
▶ 1:21:53>> there is a complete and a loss of trust with respect to or many of us who will not support that, whether it's continued resolution or the house passed last we all voted against and that there must be a change in leadership and that secretary, the subject proceedit sounds like you on that latter. Point.
▶ 1:22:21You don't think she should be impeached not the subject in anything to do with any of the bills. >> we're working to. >> and so, look, we want to the. >> it's not a theatrical because it doesn't anything to do with any of this legislation. >> the department budget, if yot to talk about you budget. >> it's not impeachment issue. What proposed is that, right?
▶ 1:22:53>> is a two week. Yeah. >> think that that view is secretary nome has control ae it that the house and the senate, the department to implement. She has violated the law continuing right weeks. Okay. >> so your your question.
▶ 1:23:24Secretary nome or impeachment proceedings against her. The department security budget and mine is that she has violated the law many others in a number of ways, as it agency t has included unlawful. Included obstructing congressional oversight of rioters that. Have been passed in this appropriation. The record is replete with these examples, not it's not a gotcha.
▶ 1:23:54You or you don't think that she, byl means do so. And the reason probably imagine is that I didn't hear republican colleagues, including you. Respect. A year and a half ago of you seemed very, very eager to mayorkas. To impeach him.
▶ 1:24:28Yes, I certainly did a on your side of the aisle to impeach. Anybody at the time say that that was of the time within the bill to pursue. Sounds like I said, it didn't have anything tt have anything to do.
▶ 1:24:52>> that was some measure put in front think you'll find I spoke on it or it was a bump on the floor of the house. You got an obligation tos I'm here appropriation. Want it? The package I would have the uniteds senate.
▶ 1:25:13I and I obviously disagree I'll I'll certainly which is that you and I disagree on it. >> I don't there's in my view basis to the lawlessness that the ice in particular perpetrating against the american people because of thisd I'll be voting no.
▶ 1:25:41I yield back the gentleman yields back now recognized. >> Mr. jack. Thank chairman. >> uh, my question. Building upon what was a vote to defund fema, defund tsa. They're all measures within this legislation. We're seeking to defund.
▶ 1:26:05So if you committee and explain to all those watching amendments, h.r. Seven was what? >> well, it 54% of funding. The government. So it's important is homeland security in that diminishing that.
▶ 1:26:28Is it, to pay anybody that wears the uniform of,, that defending us right now? I don't to fund research at alzheimer's or people in clinical trials? Uh, is it an appropriate services to the. American people that. Don't need.
▶ 1:26:55Look, this is a huge thisa sledgehammer to try and get a fly. Think the fly important? I'm saying funding essentially almost the entire government, which we now, the se to act. Uh is this what I. Colle ranking member.
▶ 1:27:25Now, we, uh, it's just the. Approach I would have taken to would rather fund everything you know , employees and. Every district in america paid. Doing important. Why would we shut down?
▶ 1:27:46Why would we traffic controllers to keep gast is ill inappropriate to fund the . Government? Most of the issues . You could deal with the commif jurisdiction, appropriations process. Has is that everybody's on it that don't have much.
▶ 1:28:14Uh so again, you know, you want to impeach some resolution. A process to deal with that, not just to bill. Uh, so again, I tell my. People that are working hard to keep 50 and 60 year old airplanes shouldn't get paid.
▶ 1:28:40Uh because it was something totally unrelated to what? Critically important, uh, I'm not going to I'm sorry.e got a not we can pay not going o that. This. But I'm going to admit us resolve these.
▶ 1:29:09Negotiations through legislation. And if you need to. But shutting is. Not a good thing to do. A dangers and harms people who leave nothing wrong.
▶ 1:29:28And it puts the american you about, uh, in, uh, ice or care, but I bet you they don't agree that believes that. And I. Think they would think you were reckless think they ary doing their job.
▶ 1:29:55Nine simple work hard play by the them to do. Should research. So it's just to me, the to the problem that my friend uh, and you know, if you want to set the time in three months, you have the ability to, uh, I o
▶ 1:30:27Have chosen. But at least we looked at what we did together with the senate and saying, we're okay done. Let's put a week limit. On this other and continue this mission. I would have preferred a longer period. They ended up with where they're at. And right now, right now the government of the united states has did fund the ledger branch.
▶ 1:30:56Yeah, we have int about, um, you know overspent is unfunded and and we're not ge anything with what's going on in minneapolis. One way ordeal, you .
▶ 1:31:20Know, I, I grew up in a military defense worker after that, had other that followed was of course, uh, they worked hard. They played hard what they were doing, uh, I same thing about to have arguments, discussion because you want to change things, but you don't shut down the states.
▶ 1:31:42Uh, and freeze everything become thing with tht extra, uh the government. But yeah, they're ie senate did this. >> it's not what but I think its better shutting down the government. >> well, that is very well put, Mr. chairman.
▶ 1:32:05And I think that's what everyone should consider when that, madam chair, I much, Mr. jack. Miss leisure. Hello. Madam chair. >> and hello, chairman and ranking. What's interesting, because the other side of the aisle seems to be in the case od security? >> because it's make sense together. And, uh.
▶ 1:32:34And so you that up. Um I'm not sure that wt now in the, is that we were last here the ranks. Together with republicans who said, listen, there was on homeland security. Let's separate it out. O on. Bue who put sent them.
▶ 1:33:03So there's . That's not senate has for thes to put together. That's part of the negotiation. The republicans put together. That was the request of the republican. >> that was. The request specifically a.
▶ 1:33:25League senator murray, we want all six voted we accommodate stated that for whae senate collective and on both sides. But we got. >> so, uh, sorry, we sent for.
▶ 1:33:53So we changed, which they have the right to do as we have. >> we have a problem right now because for funding we talked ae good fact you and talked about f the problems. And in you, do yos detention in, you know, of.
▶ 1:34:21And once you ask , in fact, latinos often and that's problem native americans that right? >> I have have no idea. But it's not all white. West any. >> of I think that's the problem is and they keep doing that.
▶ 1:34:47And when they violation of the keep them in. It's a meae united states we should not have ice going hundreds it was , it's that was several months ago.
▶ 1:35:12But the other thing, they're they're resting . Pulling custody. And then courts are having 2300e court cases where they are saying you are violating his rights, 2003 and these court cases, this is lefties or whatever they want to call it. U would do this as I do.
▶ 1:35:42I really dealt. With normally in an appropriations bill, not you know, we have all kinds of all kinds of legislation. Our we die senate procedural issue related by.
▶ 1:36:09That, we had an agreement. We broke that agreement. They have the right to do that. And in another form. >> to me, the question to keep n homeland just clearly does because ranking member said, about ten. >> I, I think that's all for hoe funding for the rest of the government.
▶ 1:36:36Was bipartisan fashion, which and h, majorities of parties both partt exactly the thing in front of tf your party when a for why shoult that be funded to deal with and separately, the senate has
▶ 1:37:08Decided to do. They said, uh, and or what we did in the house, separate it out. Thee bills, then sent this as a separate package. I don't know why they decided not to do that, but I'm not the government. And not pay military families and not. Pay federal workers and fema and th.
▶ 1:37:40I'm not going to do that because I'm mad other rights. The issue in front of us that part of what we're struggling here in bill that wid . Security. It, guys. >> and then that we cannot sendd can say, but you have to do anything.
▶ 1:38:10>> I think that see how that works. For example , uh, last week or last time, you were here, right? There's to week requirement that they burned kept on . And that the available to law enforcement local as saying that we get included in a , in a fund member.
▶ 1:38:38You let me just I'm going to say say a couple of things. >> to me. So I'm going to take this say something. First of all, with the, uh, um.
▶ 1:38:53Organization of the department of that examined that efforts, and I voted no particular fema and other pieces were included in that, but that people rushed to vote. For ake because of those things there.
▶ 1:39:17And passed all 12i was chair of the appropriations committee. Um, to Mr. roy, $4.5 trillion. I, um, biggest cut for the wealthiest and for the biggest break responsibility here because I have colleagues who asked him this. Yes, I said she should be, then we could. So guardrails.
▶ 1:39:57I have of a many of the things that have been out, citizens warrants rejected 107 of those. And I think by myself in my opem to consideration what we need to be doing with regard to us, hert
▶ 1:40:36Increases the national institutes of health response gt it talks about power of we got some of that back and on a bipartisan numbers we rejected the trump administration until the department of education rental assistance homeless. Assistance is in there controll, personnel for military.
▶ 1:41:08Personnel bipartisan said yes. No hell no. I think they no. And that those that are there. To run for the states senate, would I want to go side to what I call the dark side? Anything gets.
▶ 1:41:41Completed, etc. And they took we talked. About disassociate havef your. Five bills, and you could have the strength, not the department security bill. It as it was currently structured. I. Am not for however, as.
▶ 1:42:09For the five bills that we have, this comes with a it's not two weeks and weeks. Is on it's ten days. There is not a dime of interest . For uh for uh resolution. And they're the same . I want the opportunity. I protect in those. Ten days.
▶ 1:42:37What we want to do. Ice. And it is that and they said, well, I'll lay out the same things that cannot detain or deport. Them. You have to have arrest. You re.
▶ 1:43:05You have to have an oversight capacity of and said house that is lawless and is the way m amended. Does I'll take those of those ten days, if can't decide, then it's a no vote.
▶ 1:43:29Sh, but hhs, not department of transportation, defense, not state, not the other, because. There are good bills with good things about. And I'll democratd fight.
▶ 1:43:53Against a lawless and a that is taking this country, turning it around. One person against another, and killing american citizens have to change that. We have an we part of my say I keep healing. >> republicans say,, we can't put that in appropriations.
▶ 1:44:20We appropriations, because if demat constitution, chairman, they said that you because they were carrying a gun, a. And when he was shot down, he was he was already down. And we were shot. Session. Do you with the idea that you can carry a gun? >> of course not. >> right. So of course not.
▶ 1:44:50But how do you enforce that first ae second amendment, 40 court cases on this. >> that's normally people, punim individually, shut down the government of the united states . Come on. >> this legislation, this, that. >> but you shut down the entire government, shut down.
▶ 1:45:21Areas where you have bipartisan, vibrant talking about this thing. Senate had set . We accommodated them senate. That's what can you keep sayingw do that in. >> because we wanted a separate . Vote on it and we gave you that.
▶ 1:45:51>> democrats. >> so I think that this is exactly. Republicans and democrats. >> but don't don't. Talk over each other, please. >> well, that does not talk over each other. I known to come and love, love. No. Uh uh. So I will, I will. Why would please? I'll wrap it up. >> but I think that to say is te hearing including long.
▶ 1:46:21In appropriations. And, my god, if we are funding, it will be espep violence of this constitution. And in 20, isis violated 96 court orders saying could go to a court isn't working in e can look, we need to have accountability. And none of that .
▶ 1:46:50And that's the frustration that americans are feeling. This trump is down on this american gunned down in this idea that, you know, it's about retribution. You're. My god, wis more immigrants than maine does . And I don't know doesn't make our population proud.
▶ 1:47:17>> the healthy immigration states so. But they're going into maine because it's a democrat. >> republican state because that's what. >> I mean, I. Was with one of we operations in oklahoma and says we cooperate with them here. We work had the same experience.
▶ 1:47:45That's saying there's not an ice presence in the lunch. Is going on in. Democratic states. >> and madam chair there's no surgery. They that tells you everything. >> thank you. Mr. griffin. You're. Recognized. >> I don't have any questions, madam chair. God bless you.
▶ 1:48:17>> thank you. Thanks. >> Mr. earnest, I would. >> everything's been talked. Yo? >> what does get me? Continues to demagogue what happened assaults on police by the president, who let 15 to 20 million. I stood beside it.
▶ 1:48:44Uh, they stood behind the few were, um, to drive with. Sex trafficking. Say one word about what was happening about that the administration that president trump is trying what the. They're not talking about database. They're not. Talking about the young girl.
▶ 1:49:09But he kicked out a he kicked out a car, a tail light. He should have been arrested. But the lax rules as a sign, hypocrn around a long time. What's going to happen in ten days? >> uh, I don't. Think, um, we know.
▶ 1:49:38I mean, a serious negotiation might be detention. I don't think get settled in ten days. I'd love to be wrong about that. And some other. Short term cr. I agree very much with the ranking member on this. I don't see wans dispute. Military needs to threatened. I don't see why the answer I. I don't see why.
▶ 1:50:08Department of education I don't see why as my friend pointed out, to threatened. So I don't think . And, uh, if we, you know,. I u know, he was commenting and I actually agree with my friend. D security was created or he ungainly agency components.
▶ 1:50:36If y . The authorizing committee, some pretty serious work and redesign again mark, that's jobs to fund it. Uh we think the appropriate we try to put in grease sometimes.
▶ 1:51:04Sometimes we don't agree, but we worked it out and got it done. The senate broke the agreement. They in, they certainly have the ability. Becy did not. They did not accept the bill in the ford end, been kicked back. Uh it's shut down. Under way and stop that.
▶ 1:51:33Most of these areas we agree on or we ought aside ty I'm not going to punish the american military going to, you know, disrupt clinical tourism up. Going to these areas. We agree that keep focused on this and we'll keep working in these problems. As my friend suggests. I think some.
▶ 1:52:01Of them need to be in court. They don't be fought out arena. If somebody did something wrong for school officials, did something wrong, you know, to be punished and or be adjudicated, I, uh, ss up.
▶ 1:52:25And derailing the entire, iu know, uh, I thought it was a rational no, ma'am. Care. As if the whole rest of the government care. It wasn't. This is the same we ought to take the areas we can agree on. Off the septemr 30th. We work for that sort.
▶ 1:52:52This other issue and go from myo question, uh, I would be surprised if in days I would be enormously pleased, but I would not to see us back here thing. But let most of government to thinking. About next year. As you know, some of the authorization committees it would be authorized.
▶ 1:53:22They just did their work. Maybe the only authorization committee around here. The bill every year is the committee. It doesn't matter if it's democrat or republican. They produce bill that covers every. No other committee comes close. We close. I think they want to restructure the there's plenty of work to do.
▶ 1:53:50They can get right at it. Come >> this will next ten days. Uh, again kristi noem demagogue and ice agent. It's supposed to loose. Calling for salted. I. Think that will be a preview. Coming I think it's to shut the government. Down. Um, it's up against giving them ten days.
▶ 1:54:21Let's call them. Last time they3 days. Not too good it didn't work out too good. They know how. >> that's for 43 days. Not very. Look for families that didn't make mortgage. President the. You know, the employed government didn't paid.
▶ 1:54:45But by god, we expect you to we expect to be able to fly in and pontificate. Well, your payment does get paid. Your rent doesn't get real adult. So final agreement here. People can I'm for getting those things done like we continue to work on this other deal logical.
▶ 1:55:13The shutdown of united states jeopardized paychecks, but private with lot of private business. And we're upset about one thing over here, which we can deal with wi, again. For heated, super polarized eight.
▶ 1:55:40But I don't iti that's 45 days in . Uh, those people suffered for that. Mr. scott brought, uh, you know. Homeland security is more than just ice. They want to the weapon there is a strong contingency in grant, uh, all these outlandish demands. It's not. I will reluctantly.
▶ 1:56:10Vote for the I will relieve them. And let's see, I bear the consequences, and I think before. So. But thank you for your hard work. Uh, just have a total disagree is in this country. And what. For them?
▶ 1:56:40It's one word I thank god to send me. 7 million people aren't going to give it, Mr. mcgovern? >> just for the record, the, notwithstanding the fact that the money paid for them that was decided by the president. You know, for the was what was what was not stopped. >> okay. Mr.
▶ 1:57:04Mcgovern, no, but I mean, there's the first time in history that ever supreme courte right of food. Yeah. No let let's stick to the subject matter. I thank you, Mr. mcgovern. Um I want to thank. And the. Ranking member for coming today. I. Really, really appreciate it.
▶ 1:57:33I could straight on why we are here. And, um, talk. Almost wanted to cheer made her comments I was not in congress when this established either. Mr.
▶ 1:57:56To remember the debates that went on in the, uh , this being a very uneven. I think was the word you used the word, putting these disparate together and if anything, good happening. Although I other good will come in minnesota, I do expect other. It really.
▶ 1:58:26Would be nice if we could, at the composition of this. And say, why are these things I hear? Um, it, very confusing issue spurred the american people a little, little understanding are, um.
▶ 1:58:52In the country, various. Agencies put with me. It does make it very difficult, I think, to administer it. And maybe look at a to make some changes term. That's what happens.
▶ 1:59:14But I uh, we didn't expect to be sent those bills over to the senate for the good work you've done. You've emphasized that these bills came to us work of the subcommittee members said, nobot
▶ 1:59:44Bill. These bills are nobody. But we live where I appreciate the. And I'd. Like to get this process and get started on next year's and. Hopefully it will turn out the right kind of process as you all. So thank you all very much.
▶ 2:00:12Um, for today and seeing no further, we appreciate your being here and. Thank you very much. >> okay. Now thank >> rosa, I hope your hand gets better as my.
▶ 2:00:41Granddaughter said, probably you have some done. >> so, uh, at least I can move my fingers here.. >> appreciate you. Okay >> get out of your way. >> hey, how are you? How are you, sir? Hey hey, ralph.
▶ 2:01:06>> I I I now welcome our summer and representative walkinshaw from that and government reform. >> your full statement and we ask statement in five minutes.
▶ 2:01:33Welcome your testimony >> chairwoman, fox and ranking member mcgovern committee rule e houseboat. >> the resolution. Demanding that the house untied states william j.
▶ 2:01:52Clinton, in contempt of congress for refusal to duly issued by the committee on resolution recommending that the house of state hill, our clinton. In contempt of congress for refusing a. Duly issued by the committee on government. Peta's are not mere suggestion force of law. Former president clinton and former.
▶ 2:02:21Secretary clinton were legally required to oversight committee. They refused and actions have consequences. Last, democrats oe house oversight. Committee's federal law enforcement subcommittee approved a.
▶ 2:02:41Uh a mr president and former secretary clinton for investigation into the government's handling of the jeffrey abilene cases, and august fifth, uh, issued. Subpoenas to them. Please.
▶ 2:03:01Of president clinton and secretary clinton are political epstein sex trafficking network and the favor and himself from y then would have signed off on that trafficking in may ten. Secretary clinton's tenure. That report began the united. Your service as secretary of state.
▶ 2:03:29She provide firsthand information about to combat international sex trafficking. They also. Inform how congress can strengthen laws to trafficking. Since issuing the subpoenas did in good faith, we've offered flexibility to the un scheduling . We've tried to accommodate. We . Received was not cooperation, but defiant as excuses.
▶ 2:03:57And obstruction, clinton. Claimed to have been treated unfairly because the over statements under. Penalty of law . Gonzalez, holder, lee me .
▶ 2:04:20None of those official recalled any information relevant to the ips, nor any evl relationships. With epstein. The . Oversight committee required input from former us and formers secretary of labor and U.S. attorney, a. Republicans. Because they possessed information relevant.
▶ 2:04:49Clinton'sd documented relationships with epstein and maxwell, including president and maxwell, evidenced by numerous photographs, weddins . We repeat, he informed the clintons statement would not sufficient subpoenas.
▶ 2:05:08Required a deposition consistently held that witnesses known conditions upon the chair of, yet clinton and secretary attempteda brief bulleted written comprehee nor response.
▶ 2:05:28Network questions no person, not a former defy duly issued convention, and there can be no doubt that this bipartisan congressional subpoena issued as ranking the record, during the committee upy refused to appear at all.
▶ 2:05:56But ce forward the oversight committee voted on a bi partizan basis to hold both clinton, both president clintone held accountable for his actions and for her actions.
▶ 2:06:19The rules in the full house must take this opportunity to uphold so to do to the american people that this is applied equally. Petiti, pedigree or urge the rules committee to grant. Rule for representative e action. The district of columbia.
▶ 2:06:45So in and franchise tm and contemporary of 2025. As I've said, many times for this constitutional right to review inflation passed by the council. Under the dc home rule act 40 to block legislation. In this case.
▶ 2:07:05In december this past year, the dc council, without the mayor's support legislation that blocks correspondence relief for dc, tt is afforded at the federal. Level by the working families mh needed tax relief, both individuals and cities relief. It keeps where it belongs in their councl has cherry picked these.
▶ 2:07:32Federal tax reforms and decided to justx commissions they have chosen, not. To implement in the dc tax code tax, no tax on overtime, no tax on auto loan it seniors and hardworking american families. They've also cut various tax credits for disputing research and development and.
▶ 2:08:01Manufacturing incentives. Socal economy the house must swiftly exercise ability to oversee columbia ands misguided fact. I urge my colleagues on both sides of bus, and support this necessary resolution. Again, I ask commita proper rule for the, and I welcome the committee's questions. I yield back. >> thank cohen. Mr.
▶ 2:08:33Walkinshaw, can. I can't figure out where that pounding noise. Maybe get it's distracting to me. I don't want it to be distracting to.
▶ 2:09:03>> we thought it might be wantei miss yeah, if there. Could have been it. I know, okay. Yeah. We'll see. Went away for a second.
▶ 2:09:32And then when you back,y because it's not there. Anymore. >> all right. All right. >> we'll just switch out. Sorrye recognized chairwoman fox, this is my first time before this committee. >> I got the full experience here over the last hour. Listening. I appreciate to testn opposition.
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▶ 2:10:33142 would force the tax season rewrite guidance, update forms. With private tax preparers. >> the republican colleagues frustrated that D.C. has not confirmed tax law. To the so-called big beautiful bill, and laments will pay taxes. On their tips. >> knows that his home best commonwealth in the nation.
▶ 2:11:01My apologies to lena has also not conform the bill fact, kentucky has regularly to the internal revenue code. You'll bg kentucky's passage of risk a downgrade in. Dc's credit rating sees know that.
▶ 2:11:25This congress knows fiscal responsibility and are deeply concerned. This meddling, as I've said. To the oversight, republican colleagues before, the. District of columbia, the best thing to do . I oppose this reg colleagues to do same.
▶ 2:11:49This week is a democrat's to deliver the transparency and ican people and the survivors of jeffrey himes deserve. While president trump has in his power, including summoning members white house situation room for schedule coming to light.
▶ 2:12:13Forceo vote to subpoena the full epstein files and have to talk e regardless about. Epstein's crimes. Justice department continues to hide nearly law ina choice with respect to president . We can choose.
▶ 2:12:42Door number one investigation epstein's crimes moves forward. Four hour president clinton. He has agreed former president.
▶ 2:12:59Is very rare in the given the horrific and sprawling crimes and the need to fully understand the facts, crats it to be necessary. Comer is dead set.
▶ 2:13:18Door number two lies a politicized criminal sent to a politicized trump to die in cout now. That door involved in two or additional information from press information that could advance our investigation before us, is. This do we want.
▶ 2:13:41To investigation by interviewing president clinton? I want. I wo, madam chairwoman, tired of epstein politics? They want to . >> thank you. >> uh, both. For um, your statements defer my questions.
▶ 2:14:13Um and I wonder. If Mr. mister. Mcgovern, you recognize becauses coming up , uh, chairman comer has your committee held a measure? >> we have not, because, uh, rescind the dc council motion. You're on 11 days. >> it's pretty self-explanatory and has.
▶ 2:14:41Congress ever vetoed a local. Uh, house joint resolution congress about Mr. wicker. >> was it. >> yeah, we have I don't know what talking about. >> that's unprecedented. It has received zero public consideration by the us congress. Put week, and congress has never interfered before.
▶ 2:15:09Let's at least spend a few minutes about. Can you tell me the size of dc's budget for fiscal year? >> it's. >> and how. Much of that is raim local. What very with mayor bowser industry.
▶ 2:15:37The answer is 13 billion spent and what is dc's capital budget, which is. Used to invest in some public infrastructure through my notes, it may take a minute. The next e mass layoffs of federal employees, by the. You know? Mr.
▶ 2:16:12>> uh, they've been negatively impact, um, you know, we're all I know, Mr. >> mayor, to federal employees back to work. So by $1 billion, 1 billion, these new law, do you know what the fifth will be. >> when chief financial officer.
▶ 2:16:40>> that would blow a 600 million in the. And, you know, I raised these issues. I mean, you know, I agree I mean, to see. You should run for city council. He is clearly you come in knowing the first thing fiscal d I think republicans think they know dc's elected officials about tax. And budget decisions.
▶ 2:17:08But blowing a I mean , seriously, when you guys can't even meet federal budget, which is your actual job, voted for this ugly bill which adds $4 trillion. Um, you're going to tell consent to insert into the record.
▶ 2:17:29Madam chair,, muried chairman of the phil mendelson,e here, the district is already a month into the year and acceptid create huge required taxpayers to refile their taxes.
▶ 2:17:53The guidance it forms obsolete and necessitated administration systems. The same doesn't make any sense. So here I, I really this is. What we're going to spend our time doing this week.
▶ 2:18:14And create more chaoe district it doesn't make any sense now to the, uh, president trump to to uncover the facts about the epstein as quotn instructed attorney general democrats.
▶ 2:18:37Including president clinton, what this is all . Um, my report say that they. Are interested in getting to the truth of. We moved nine times to get an amendment, consider to release the files. And the way he would discharge petition, because all of you blocked. >> that's.
▶ 2:19:06I subpoenaed pam bondi. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is true. >> it. Nine times in this committee we order. And it was n addition. Six other people were also subpoenaed. Attorney general. The rest including the clintons, all signed declarations.
▶ 2:19:31Yet this contemporary solution partizan reasons, they are actively needed to provide testimony. Most recently. Offering described interview, which I guess chairman cohen because ret getting at the facts spectacle.l know what's going on. Isn't this just a political exercise, this subject from trump's involvement and the epstein the epstein files?
▶ 2:20:01At ts point, 4391 times three, three, one times. Yeah. Um, and. Asking the president to questions. But I'll yield to you. >> I think it's really important people. The timeline of president trump's and bono.
▶ 2:20:24He ran for the presidency in 2024, going files shortly after to have a binder very quickly, president trump changed his tune every in.
▶ 2:20:44His power to prevent the release of the attorney general told him that he was mentioning thousands of times. He's mentioned in the I,g everything in his power to prevent it update.
▶ 2:21:09The good news we'll be able to through door number one that I'm statement. S have. Appear for depositions and have that you laid most recent. You're aware, somee media has its way before we do mine, your staff.
▶ 2:21:37Has it, Mr. chairman. >> you. >> but if that's the case, why are we doing they just got e we've been in there waiting on the last bill so we could present you they rejected a transcribe. He wanted a transcription and transcribed deposition. You don't have to answer our interview. But they've agreed to the terms sta.
▶ 2:22:08>> maybe Mr. watkins or that thn provided this. If they've been notified, it's 15 years. >> yeah. Mr. mcgovern, it in. The last. I just received two minutes last.. We can we just ce save it? Just because we're going to have to review this and look at time we issue a subpoena and, uh, Mr.
▶ 2:22:37Walkinshaw does not the motion for this. A democrat motion and a majority of the democrats on the committee ever. >> so you're trying to say it. >> my time, madam chair. It's in other words. You're getting everything you want, but you still you're talking about something nobody's even read yet.
▶ 2:23:05So in and the recent doj release. So the prominent pd trump, melania trump, elon musk, chairman comer do you know if at had do you you know but look I've been to the island, especially if they went to the island after he's.
▶ 2:23:33You know, if trump advisers I don't keep up with steve bannon. >> right. >> do ever went to epstein's rape island with his wife and killed off his island. But he went somewhere. >>.
▶ 2:23:56So you don't want to subpoena that you to learn if they have subpoenaed the former reporter for a hard hitting deposition and we subpoenaed administration, how many republicans you know. When he when he has how many republicans this is a bipartisan investigation on the oversight committee, voted for the time you can spread all the propaganda you want.
▶ 2:24:25It's my time in this committee, and I'm asking the questions that you ti don't even know what the question is. I will, uh, how would nick or. That the evidence leaves? >> if the evidence, we'll talk about it. Just out of our butts. >> like. >> chairman.
▶ 2:24:51Come with the oversight to attorney general bondi. More than five, I think.g documents, madam chair, can atte oversight committee issued a subpoena more than five months ago requiring her to produce au, 2025. >> yes or no?
▶ 2:25:17As of right now, and fully complied with the subpoena. >> we're still reviewing that'se documents that I'll just one minute if I could if you to talk over each other. >> but a question.
▶ 2:25:37I'd like I mean, me real quick, real quick here we keep people keep the files been released. Does files we're goinw how many this started. >> Mr. 5 or 6 months ago.
▶ 2:26:04This suggested files. We've already d released 1 million files. Okay. >> now, Mr. mcgowan, the correcm chairwoman, is yes. >> a number, because the trump administration, general todd blanch, said there are six 6 mi. >> now, he says they.
▶ 2:26:32Release 3 million. The law does not objectively. Determine that 3 million of the said were over os attorney. Generals compliance with that subpoena, use of files . That we've seen publicly because.
▶ 2:27:01Have the allowed redactions that the legislation that has she's. Produced to this committee only 30 of documents, not 3 million. Now she's out of compliance with the subpoena and. For requiring the release of all 6 million documents. Can we talk about this? >> I'm encumber. So what? I'm. So she's released.
▶ 2:27:30Over 3 million. >> you million. In addition to the I. Thousand a few months ago said we know the number. >> is that what you the todd blt trump's said that there are 6 million thing to. Only 3 million. And he redact that 3 million.
▶ 2:28:00So should we in contempt she's she is turning over and said as they turned over documents every day required to turn over. >> I don't, uh, allowed by law to turn up. All.s still investigation lawsuits. There's. There's.
▶ 2:28:22A lot of stuf, but we want the doctor reviewing the 3 million. I don't think anybody can say they've read the pouring through them. I'm worried about the 3 million that haven't been released. >> and do we released? We do no. Um, have you?
▶ 2:28:49I'm because I've been I've been reading I want to know whether you heard victims or survivors about the recent release by d.a. Some of o believe that doj is deliberately personal information about them , while at the same protecting the men that been you
▶ 2:29:21. Want to you. >> I mean, look, the most recent release, we just that they law e they were time to carefully scrutinize the files and instructions to protect the survivors after survivor, after survivor, after survivor revealed in the release, laid the release to protect the survivors.
▶ 2:29:48So they said to protect the survivors when they released half of the thing is no abused these women., again, they victimized advisers. Um. And they're protecting the people yi mean, I was on the oversight committee who moved swiftly to hold the.
▶ 2:30:21Contempt, yet several women. Notably refused to comply with congressional subpoenas. Six committee, maybe chairman cuomo, do you prosecuted? >> so I'm glad you asked that question because speculation in our minnesota fraud investigation that democrat member. From minnesota that.
▶ 2:30:38Wht other members that has to be the january 6th subpoena being, whie been told then they should take it up with the ethics committee because that's their sole membe.
▶ 2:31:05>> we should recess for 5 or 10 minutes. Clinton development is so we maybe can say a well, mayk you a question? >> Mr. that's going to every tie issue a subpoena. Democrats republican, whoever's in subpoena, let them.
▶ 2:31:25Stonewall for five months, got the votes e floor in a, then the I think. The danger here is that the clintons were and you jumped to this for five, uh. We have seen chairman. Comer has a post here. >> oh, that's bull that is not,.
▶ 2:31:57Mr. chairman, the chairman. Can't hear you at the made an at you're trying to that the republicans. >> that's right. I'm. I'm asking you back that. >> back it this way. >> we had a markup. >>. The chairman laid out his who the clintons most recent offer at.
▶ 2:32:24He didn't like that they hadn't agreed to. He didn't like. That they wanted to the room. They . Hadn't agreed to limit the discussion to matters. He claimed at the time. That was untrue. And he did want to limit related matters.
▶ 2:32:46All of those objections at our couple of weeks ago were that the clintons made yesterday. Oh no. The additional objections that the chairman letter have cd their lawyer. So if we're going to continue to move forward despite that, they have met everything you've asked them to think, happening.
▶ 2:33:14So the question is, are we interested. In getting to the friends intern creating a spectacle? >> Mr. it's all about no. Been on this q democrats and.
▶ 2:33:31I tried nine times to bring, you know, a resolution files only wn public pressure you know, uh, you know, forced on it. Finally did we have a vote on it, the department of complying. Um andd with take a recess.
▶ 2:34:01>> okay. Can that's all I was trying to say think that we should do that. The rules call. >> I mean, excuse me. >> votes have been called. We should. Um last vote, I finish my questions. >> yes we start at the end?
▶ 2:34:24If you won't take another f your staff to be at the beginning of this. >> yeah, the beginning of but il enough time to say. >> if that's okay. I, uh romer. >> Mr.
▶ 2:34:48Walker, uh, and the others who are here and committee's. Going to recess. >> uh last vote committees. Heny .
▶ 2:42:33Okay. >> yeah
▶ 2:43:08Okay, so this one. >> uh, how about now? Is that better? Okay okay. >> um, I'm going to look for the part for.
▶ 2:43:32>> uh government.
▶ 3:23:04To the, uh, natural resources. Um. Welcome. Our third panel represent representative on sorry from the committee.
▶ 3:23:16Your full for the, we ask you summarize your, I welcome your chairwoman, uh, fox ranking member lagarde to testify today on h.r. 40900 dominance act. In november of the U.S. >> its final 2025 list of critical minerals.
▶ 3:23:45Key commodities. These critical minerals faced with and they ars national compete and win. The data is clear. Demand for the sector to skyrocket in the coming years. Endless recent study from s&p global, rand alone is. Projected to increase by 50, driven by the.
▶ 3:24:14Growing needs of our defense and manufacturing. This shortfall of up. To 10 million metric tons of supply chain expansion. In other words, we need to mine now and e opposite direction. In recent decades, reliant. On mineral imports.
▶ 3:24:40It's right in the our t controls approximately. 60% of ocean,, and we've repeatedly the ccp restrictionsg chip, and trade negotiations increasing uncertainty across eo unleash vast natural decisive ao
▶ 3:25:12Cut red tape and end against doc and from the biden direct approvals and millions os . Public lands. Since has moved quickly to set america on a dominance from issuing a first executive orders focused on mineral production to include projects in this adminin sent than impede our miners.
▶ 3:25:48Who form the foundation, h.r. 4090 builds on president trump's effort, codifying aspects of three executive to hardrock mining. First, h.r. Requires the department of the interior to assess mineral community monitored reds like dominion.
▶ 3:26:17Agencies to ideny federal lands suitable, streamle priority mining projects on federal efforts to provide a clearer. H.r. 4090 directs interior review and regulations, including those provide a report congress with.
▶ 3:26:48Their findings, along with paulg during markup. Natural cross the aisle to ban this bill. Adopting require carrier to report to congress rich and federal lands and potential to produce rock minerals from flast the bill, supported by the.
▶ 3:27:16Natural resources, resources h.d forward to addressing one of codifying thes into law. Domestic mining sector. Needs to invest and united state committee to so we can bring this bill floor and. Thank you.. State representative.
▶ 3:27:48>> thank you. >> chair fox and here to define opposition to h.r. 1490, sponsored by representative at a time our nation, a partial government shutdown, an ice terrorizing communities, and murdering and colleagues across the aisle have joined.
▶ 3:28:09And to time on a bill that hands the miner to gut its, doing nothing to actually secure chains. Now do support mining where appropriate, where environmental and safeguards and I believe that there are some positive but that we should be handing over indusd choose its regulations what haph
▶ 3:28:40Mining goes wrong. We've seen water. Contaminated with toxic polar sacred sites and cultural resource is e mining industry to tell interior and the forest solutions regulae essential to protect communities from. Toxic waste and polluted drinking water.
▶ 3:29:05Our communities have their voices heard, and as we've repeatedly raised our domestic dollars aided currently . By foreign companies for series and nearly all of whom pay back to people for extracting minerals, this bill makes it even easier for fo
▶ 3:29:36Any mine. The secretary d would . Get fast track approval by a foreign. Adversary of the united states, would be shipped abroad , or if it would again, I support responsible minerals for our economy, and I want to see secure. But we. Cannot mine our way to success.
▶ 3:30:01We need to work with our allies for neeg industry. Aveda of low impact ways to source essential minerae are studies on some of these findings, mary purpose is.
▶ 3:30:20To gut regulations and hand power to an industry that is already doing for this bill does not come. We. Whd that it would be dollars and take an equity stake and use mining and manufacturing company reporting rare earth hired
▶ 3:30:52Cantor fitzgerald to help with fund raiser by brandon, the son of commerce an october the trump administration and now mining company metals, while simultaneously used to fast track permitting for ambler project needed to access trilogy metals trilogy.
▶ 3:31:13Metals as the third largest shareholder megadd his shares increased $70 million. Announcement. The administration is making a patterns and losers in industryo trump. Officials.
▶ 3:31:37Tie taxpayer dollars to corporate balance sheets and incentive controls to prioritize individual corporate year. Today, ranking member huffman of the natural resources ranking member garcia of the oversight s taxpayer funded.
▶ 3:32:00To date, there has been no public disclosure tt these ownership, submitting decisions, regulation, enforcement or any other agency decisions relating to the before we give this administration, even ourselves, at the expense of everyday americans, at leasti working with colleagues
▶ 3:32:32Innovative ideas in the mineral space yield back. >> thank miss. I'm sorry. I appreciate it. Um, I am going to ask represent. Um. Or or is. The committee or resources committee . As far as you know, modell, to help.
▶ 3:33:02Any person or any individual? No. Okay. Well, I think that's out of way right away my good friend represents your fernandez. Has offered an amendment before and in the in the national. I know about hitting.
▶ 3:33:27Companies that 1m benefits of the bill I wonder if that.
▶ 3:33:45Well, let might have an interest and so I I'd like to ask so what I heard that china is already doing whatever they do to prevent us from building out supplies of minerals.
▶ 3:34:08Right china is trying to corner the market right so that china or that matter. From going out and buy sent of a 10% of the stock of a company and this legislation, think.
▶ 3:34:36To that particular and therefore. Cutting off, cutting off supplye consequences go into that for the committee jumping to that? Because I think it raises the issue, uh, this.
▶ 3:35:08>> yeah. Uh, madam been, uh, our . Economy. Uh cheap steel. They'll try to put, uh, out, uh, our. Uh, mining industry commodity prices, cut them. Uh, to reduce, uh. Globe.
▶ 3:35:36So there's no investments anywhere else. And, leger, fernandez. Fernandez you put any number on it china, they cheat the, uh, market. And don't mean it. Yeah sure. And I've seen it. So they're just going by whatever we put out there. Just going to buy buy 14.
▶ 3:36:09That wing in our country. Uh, that in them, the opportunity to do that, it would have been written in our law and so I think that we've got to win. Uh this I war. We win the mining war. Uh, we've we've, uh, we've to do it. I.
▶ 3:36:32Will tell you, uh, madam chair, that, uh, in the district that I represent is a world, uh, and, uh, we minerals in addition, in the same . Helium between 11 helium at 3% is economically viable.
▶ 3:36:57These are these are rich minerals and titanium in northeastern minnesota. So, um constituents t opportunity to have, well, in sr labor, our our no shortcuts.
▶ 3:37:17Umi take about I think the lord gave us the we need on earth to do what it is right to thrive. . Being detrimental harm, we ought to be able to use.
▶ 3:37:45The reed gave us to use, uh, again, interventionist, as I think anybody in this. I grew. Up very poor sourcing things to begin with. That's stuck with me. And I recycle everything of the earth, farmed most of my life, and not despite say.
▶ 3:38:12So we, to advantage of the resources that we, in a responsible. You t belongs to us. Man for ways to e with.
▶ 3:38:42Um, they're going to get mine. Lead ? Do we want. To export our environmental gear or not? Minnesota's been mining for 100. We might, uh, that, uh. Over 80% of this nation steel.
▶ 3:39:05And madam chair, think that we know china it under. >> well, thank you very much. And I, I use miss fernandes. Uh we're. Because she had. The amendment that gave me the option to this issue. Now she'll probably want to talk. C, but I'm over to yield to Mr.
▶ 3:39:37Mcgovern how much I here and, u, it's not to make an. Observation. >> I kind of feel like all the time rules committee debating benefit in terms of profit. Are members of the academy. Some questionable deals that the administration has. Share from.
▶ 3:40:02Stephen miller is selling earth mining outfit for significant. After the administration announced the deals supporting the company. Bn another minerals deal has now taken equity shares. Um uh, in seven mineral companies documented ties to administration officials, and, you know.
▶ 3:40:29I mean, I know we just let know, uh, but I mean. That's right. Um, and that's just my conclusion respond. Okah , chairman and I thought that maybe we'd about raised it.
▶ 3:40:56>> so that way we can for callid friend. I've really and being al you interesting is. And my the issue with regards to allowing china.s not for me. I mean, I'm not that smart.
▶ 3:41:26Um, the, uh, select committee, that's where it came from. This this originated asked congress for they wait now, the fact that we need to start and our adversary should. Not be mining because what that then happens is they need to china. And last time what we didn't want to answer that question.
▶ 3:41:57That's going to happen. What what was it where where the copper that intend to mine near what is going to go. And you had to acknowledge, oh, fini was going to make. Us to wrangle with it. But bill does is provides a benefit and is we.
▶ 3:42:24Should not be providing these. But every 11 te mining saying let's not offer that benefit or and hearit now. We say enough? But we don't china be taking these things.
▶ 3:42:53And I think the article, the unintended consequences, uh, china uh, and by the control. Well, then my question would be if we really want them to get the benefit, they're going to then take all the minerals. And I pointed outy the problem.
▶ 3:43:17Don't say no, you can't doing it because we ao to that. And we need to start saying resources are banned in y state, we have a huge, uh, that mines all. Kinds of things. Guess what?
▶ 3:43:45>> it's american have american d companies and abused the things that only available to either american owned is owned by our allies, or at least to sg more american the consequences. You're the consequences. That's the consequence.
▶ 3:44:09I'm looking I'm sao china and our advice to americans and ah, so that does that make sense of why I'm trying to it came out of this whole line, we, uh, uh, asked talk to representative molnar or talk to secretary uh, burgum.
▶ 3:44:30Is is not something this should be bipartisan. I don't know what the natural resources keeps saying. We can't. They. Don't say this. It's the wrong thing. They just keep saying over, it d there's our. Thank you, Mr. chair. >> thank you.
▶ 3:44:56And thank you, mrd I'll just say very easy to put some really good minds. Yes Mr. chair, and, um, Mr. stauberu have worked for north and I know there's a lot of discussion froe talking about.
▶ 3:45:28>> minnesota, those miners in northeast minnesota, this has life. I mean, you mentioned, what, 35 years of mining and they've, um, so many times now, um, and, and does this bill require mine to be. Opened? No, no, not a criticism that we're trying to open. Certain. No. Wal kinds of things like this.
▶ 3:45:56But,y to, um, uh, representative fischbach, park member mcgovern. >> I do want to, uh, that the ranking member said, uh, he said there's no in at least one proposed mine. Uh, there will be $1.818 billion of federal.
▶ 3:46:26Um, there will be million dollars taxes over the life of the does not I. Fund. We're mining royalties go a single school district in the state of minnesota receives benefit, uh, from from mining through to my good friend Dr. fernandez.
▶ 3:46:55Um you know, she talks and the oil and gas in her state asked my friend, can my constituents have $150,000 a year and lead and th. Stover, but I just I don't do. >> who is it? It really does to benefit the economy.
▶ 3:47:24It's going to benefit trust fund, and it's going to do national security well, you know, and we're going to have new colleague. >> representative leger fernandez is going to have the opportunity, uh, legislative processing and refining to happen in our country. So I'm looking forward to her for her support on it.
▶ 3:47:50>> I, it really does it to be mining we are using what know, others and growing still a role federal level and the state level. >> all much. Thank you for that. >> you're recognized.
▶ 3:48:19Thank you , madam chair. >> representative, sorry. We're hearing a bill and wonders it's going to produce, but like all hat and no cattle, um, do anything to meaningfully increase. >> thank you for the no.
▶ 3:48:44>> and the two fundaments bill.r mcgovern talked about the aspect essentially, and first and foremost interior to be able toh the mining industry around the mentally.
▶ 3:49:02That is something that should to properly regulate an industry and that as was all, um , you know, I do think the some of questions that we've posed in committee and thrust bl the.
▶ 3:49:30Permitting processes look like with conflict of interest to the point of trump? Tied to r and howard lutton, because of millions of dollars in relation to mining companies, you know, even more so than that. I think the issue around china. Right. K if I jobs again, I support mining. There's a lot of mining.
▶ 3:49:58And, you know, labor unions in our state, you know, that disappointed when clean energy tax credits were jobs are excited about. But. They want to also make sure, um, and unions are um, you know, our majority to make sure that it's american owned companies and states as ti just want to really a
▶ 3:50:28Common sense amendment that came directly and, you know, ideally would.. Today, this attempt to move things forward. >> be careful both to avoid conflict. Idea that ths that might hurt that we're goinp with national secure um, it doe.
▶ 3:51:01Ready for prime time here. >> exactly. And I think that, you know, bipartisan place here, you know, I. Heard the argument of national security here, but I also think the guise of and oveo rush, um.
▶ 3:51:20And to me, it's a it's actually a concern that our an adversary and competitor, uh, it would benefit from this greatly.
▶ 3:51:37And I think to, to prevent themk that's extremely of the concernt we have being thrown up with some of our, our minerals that have herp nato or different agreements, that those are should also be working on to address areas. Absolutely.
▶ 3:52:01I think I nan recently to denmark of you. Know, frankly, damage control on behalf of the trying everybody u know, they think this could be an area of collaboration. Absolutely. Allies in this regard. Thank you.
▶ 3:52:32>> thank you very much. >> miss. Mr. scott here. Thank you, madam chair. >> I think that, uh, extremely important for the united states of america. I've heard a side, from people that. Mr. stauber, do you have anything else that y important that that, um. It's not just.
▶ 3:53:01Or a quote about our strategic, uh, the. We cannot foreign adversarial nations any longer. So much, uh, and look, the critical minerals on rare earths right now, the communist country just stopped selling globally, six rare earth in our everyday life. Right?
▶ 3:53:28The opportunity, uh, to with our environmental, our labor standards, uh, it's going to be mined somewhere. We got a minor here. Agree know, exporting or environmentalist to put in our electric.
▶ 3:53:47That's exactly what's happening, though , uh, and again, um, we in my opinion, have the ability we have the, we have the political science facts and the true.
▶ 3:54:04Uh,, mineral mining in the united states of america, minnesota and alaska and other opportunity to do it when I, uh, I couldn't help but laugh when that was at the governor of new york that ignore
▶ 3:54:39The science legislation. Madam chair, yield back. >> thank you. Very momentous. >> thank friend madam chair, and already talked about the problem of the republican bills. Refusing to address the in our foreign adversaries. I'm going to go on a different tack. We know under trump, utility and, uh, it's. Heated up again.
▶ 3:55:12Madam chair, I'll, I'll enter into the 13% since trump took office without objection. Thank you, madam chair. And I think that seeing an administration needs. To take policies that encourage more americans, but then don't provide for americans. And. This is the tension. Shouldn't do mining.
▶ 3:55:40We're saying responsibly . And since I . Issues and I know the mining companies got to say were our ground, our surface water ch carolina. There is a lot that's been. Contaminated by mined sites.
▶ 3:56:08What's happening now is n regulations put in the problem with this says mining companies what you d we know that mining companies ms , they're going to do what is tt and.
▶ 3:56:33For the long term benefitss very concerned the fact that yoe more water in the river. We're very, anything that helps keep and wa.
▶ 3:56:52Representative you know mentionn congresswoman bill explicitly directs the administration history see as burden and to blh quote. >> all of that will happen out any tribal consultation. It's directed information profit consequences.
▶ 3:57:20And we so doesn't mean isn't it is of the america. I think is concerning. I history to start and I. Think this argument are creator. It's simply a regulation for and by think it'y rich. You're talking about quote unquote killing job.
▶ 3:57:48The reconciliation bill last year was hundreds. Of thousands of clean. And this . That is what this there around protecting our water. There's not protecting national parks. And a exempted. From this deregulation is right.
▶ 3:58:18>> and that's what we go back to. And new regulatit in other places we have certain. Border, I have the literally if you take picture, you see that a . And guess what?
▶ 3:58:44We are having some who can both regulate and make up companies only care about profits. What it's up to e about our community. Sadly. Democrats seem to be the only ones. Both jobs and keeping clean so that we have.
▶ 3:59:09Water to drink and for the essential aspect or anything else to add. Representative? I'm sorry. Okay. Thank you. I yield back, Mr. chairman, very much recognize the gentleman from virginia for his time of questioning. So a lot don't ask questions or I don't get wound.
▶ 3:59:38And unfortunately, this bill. Um that there was a question was be mined immediately under this bill it takes a long time.
▶ 3:59:56The mind set up, if you understand money bridge in the united states 29 years and we hope to shorten that a little bit. But it takes a while at. Ao happen immediately.
▶ 4:00:17We heard that up 13% since trump has taken up over 12 months. Let me. Tell you how utility bills go up. You first . What you have to do. I was elected on a platform because of electric.
▶ 4:00:46The district, region that I represent in the. 1990s was the on coal. The be stirred up. They they to do their all oa sudden. Prices have been going up. All of. It made it harder to harder.
▶ 4:01:12To use the coal in electric. And guess what we had or higher electric prices today, and all the companies on coal or sources, this cheaper because of fracking.
▶ 4:01:40Uh, when I was first elected, everybody one of my power companies was building a facility on imports.l . Drilling and fracking came a ban the price of natural gas dropped precipitously. That is a competitor to coal. But can compete and will compete for our coal fired power plants.
▶ 4:02:09Uh, difficult for them to operate. And companies don't end upgrading those plants because they're wrong. Whether l legislative legislative orders until that shut down, when people, utility bills have since trump office, you have to look back in time 29 years, but
▶ 4:02:40You have to look back in is nots eo. Policies, this is a result of the war on fossil fuels. And strand take a facility was cut the ribbon on it. I was wase a 50 year life extension to shum down. 50 years is. Those folks have in new things.
▶ 4:03:09And maybe it's a good thing like of, see, and. Guess what the ratepayer gets to do. Old facility and the new facility. And then the republicans who fought policies here and let happen. I've got to bring it. That with, Mr.n , I appreciate your comments.
▶ 4:03:40>> I do want, talk about something that I think saying, do you disagree with anything that I don't? >> all right. Thank you, Mr. chair, if I may, going nepa statute. Uh has nothing. To affect the clean water act effect.
▶ 4:04:08Uh, to the endangered species act. These are four pieces, uh, during the permitting process and, uh, loot doesn't diminish any of that. >> and.
▶ 4:04:25And I would have, you k, to use, uh, fossil fuel critical minerals and we want to mine those the wrong. Uh, one of the most in tt few months is in, in condor.
▶ 4:04:48Uh, you know, about the environment, but just like may disagree on to like nepa species act, and so can you. To create jobs through. Critical minerals or what we mine in my district whole and we do have natural gas.
▶ 4:05:17We have covid my district r about 50 years. Uh, in coal beds. Uh and these are good jobs. And unfortunately, they killed those there. They didn't get any new jobs in the clean ones. Everybody kept promising they have new jobs. Well, you, g job paying more than $100,000 a year.
▶ 4:05:46Another job working at the family dollar. Family dollar. But doesn't pay what it pays in. Go. Ahead. >> uh, Mr. chairman, I got a frs uh, the luxury. Of having two major industries, uh, and mining all. I'm asking is let's let my constituents make 135.
▶ 4:06:13Which ones have that. >> good paying jobs and. I'm gonna vote for appreciate it. Constituents to have the jobs the mining industry. Now I have.
▶ 4:06:44>> I see. All sitting there, I do I. >> I appreciate it. Mr. uh, represent staff for doing this. This country has been under a lot of stress because of this. Here's what they've done. Just hadn't been the immigration these loud that's unconstitutional.
▶ 4:07:12I was in ministration. Shut down the alaska line and pretty. Much immobilized ask for their income . Uh minerals in, uh, arizona. That what the biden. Administration did and you. Know, with with china.
▶ 4:07:45Aggressively going after the and the minerals that they threatened. Mr. trump, who had a one year reprieve, shut. Down the guerrero's exports that have interrupted semiconductor chip permits, essential. For our military be. Beholden to china. It's a fair failure. Uh, thank a good bill.
▶ 4:08:14I yield back uh, all the folks wishing to ask questions here and now straight to here. >> all right, go to witnesses on a minutes to amendments on.
▶ 4:08:40If you want to talk about an amendment, come on up. All right. >> all right, miss randall, this about your amendment. >> thank you so much, Mr. chair. Thank you.
▶ 4:09:06Member members for ts the list to high school aberdeed vigils. My district, the american people, have been under no funding for ice. No more fund. Miller homan for greg bovino. No more abuse and more violating fourth amendment of the constitution.
▶ 4:09:33Churches pulling people from their cars using their outside. We've had enough renege or deliberate, intentional acts of violence perpetration and the. Wake up call for this republican majority sooner.
▶ 4:09:50There have been more than 30 deaths of fascist e agents or teargassed individuals simply exercising their first amendment blood on every individual, aiding investigations, dangerous fearmongering, invasion. I refuse to stand by while our neighbors are shot in the paren. And while tribal citizens are.
▶ 4:10:18I'm here call for secretary nome's immediate her impeachment. But she's not the only one who a customs and border patrols. Greg bovino, the architect of the streets of minneapolis, is directly responsible. Assault on constitutional protections. He it. Shortly after an and kickedf minnesota.
▶ 4:10:45But that's not nearly no one wanted shuffled from one parish to another, able to a bad agent from one state to the amendment to demote his salary to $1, given. To individuals who think they're above the law americanst of laws they are violating, is time to go into.
▶ 4:11:06In my limited time here, but of particular rogue violating the sovereignty of tribal and an minnesota and of the league containing, illegally detaining and targeted skin color. This is abhorrent funding for ice on .
▶ 4:11:33Prevent ice from entering fred without first notifying the tribe with and of their presence. That notification must not, by ice that they have reviewed what the indian, and rt members carrying american citizens. We must continue to reinvent. We against isis. Violation of the forests. Don't hinder safety.
▶ 4:12:01That's why I'm also offering my bills can act as an amendment to this funding package. What happened, jim, is holding up crews fighting the bear gulch fire in my district for for ids before ultimately detaining two should never be happen again across the. Country. Who are scared this will happen in their communities. Next, the protectid will keep fighting for it.
▶ 4:12:29Brinl point about why option from offs so obsessed with dressing shooth weapons that she has functions at dhs voting no on this package because it would other agenciese fema. But let's be real, those other.
▶ 4:12:53Agency with kristi noem at the helm, she's been dangerously undermining safety and resiliency of fema has frozen critical funds like billions treated disaster s political withholding access to are experiencing more and more frequent flood funds. That's.
▶ 4:13:21Why I also have an amendment pending package on releasing all of the frozen free fema, because secretary noem is dangerous immigrant communities. She's to protect lives, property, and cri urge package and finally, I want to m condemned general pam bondi in .
▶ 4:13:57>> thank you very much questiond questions for mcgovern your rule bills in particular, this particularly open on the house h is, uh but you show you being to
▶ 4:14:28Yield back. Jim, the Mr. scott. >> scott has question. Coming to me. I.. And they keep telling people just have home, an amendt to reduce a. Salary. Except while under $1.
▶ 4:14:56It's been . Preserved. So everybody that f other laws saving federal laws n rule is to arrange the agents ig that, and reduce the salary.
▶ 4:15:24But you can't reduce violation.e gotten to where I'm president on. Am I because they're not written right. Um either side wants to write a home who, uh, I'm. I may I'm pry voted correctly.
▶ 4:15:50Want to say was procedurally and legislative services, Mr. rankin. That's what was that make us. >> yes, sir. Make her amendment and open the house debate it. Ad vote no.
▶ 4:16:16>> I've been voting because, uh, the the guardian or the home rule. Uh, but I'd like to see music. Correct. I appreciate that. But I probably won't, Mr. chairi may really quickly, um, occasiow member of congress learning the .
▶ 4:16:44Robot will say, is that what I'm hearing from the constituents of in red and blue districts? They're the lac. But the lack of tools the rule f law, the tuition and out. To do something that that that is got do it to everybody.
▶ 4:17:11So it's not tht this oh no, I feel about the cas is the legislature. All and now. >> well I think have for her and for being here.
▶ 4:17:32I, I just want to take an opportunits particular. He could give him te opportunity to perhaps, uh. Again. And so. To proposed, uh, miss randall, which I think from the perspective of imposing accountability.
▶ 4:18:02Uh uh, and I wonder if minibus as fiscally responsible bill not. >> I agree with you. I don't. Y, earlier not here uh, a very robl actually exceeds the budget targets from three years hundref
▶ 4:18:33Dollars. I mean, I. One in particular, I found was for, uh . Repairing elevators, work, uhw that are going to be on the hook for that. Mr. norman, I'm happy to yield to you represent in south carolina.
▶ 4:18:55Uhs country with how, if in carolina corrupting this on the roof or you. Uh, package the with thing going on with.
▶ 4:19:32. >> this it much I just I find id this can't possibly know then when gn the opportunity, good position p accomplishments of against this rule of the
▶ 4:20:04Fact that that sounds like eveni haven't you. So I'll as well. B, back, uh, as >> Mr. norman.
▶ 4:20:19No questions hero fernandez, and, you know, I thek goals. >> uh, you know, earlier we had , uh, chairman, he. Agrees we shouldn't be investing.
▶ 4:20:44We knowe doing oh, you look latino. Let's arrest you. You problem is that there is no accountability. Somebody this h. Acknowledge you shouldn't shoot because they were carrying a licensed firearm.
▶ 4:21:09He tv shows ay shouldn't happen as a it was. No ways to hold accountable. There's no thing in the.
▶ 4:21:34Hold te opposite. They immune and they're not the constitution applies. We force them to comply with the. . I don't you know, I iguala, right. That's a dollar. That's where you're going at.
▶ 4:22:01Wouldn'tt they. What do you think signed f the bills have worked on qualified.
▶ 4:22:20And I think the american people want ability for federal agents who are literally murdered in t, really, the bare minimum that there is when there is a the meh
▶ 4:22:57Amendment, you believe in freedoms and you you should vott that in appropriations bill credits I think that is no Mr. , unanimous consent, Mr.
▶ 4:23:16Chair, you to enter into record of amendment 71, the federal govers institutional thing, because if violating it, there should be a holding them n
▶ 4:23:49The testimony submitted for the record. Yeah. And I it. Uh, andi appreciate of that exists for our federal law until for they're saying the law don't apply to the. Frustration.
▶ 4:24:13The laws let's make that happen >> gentlelady yields back seeing no one else. >> and, you being here. Thank you so much. >> all right. >> this is I don't know was how long I don't know.
▶ 4:24:56I'm advised that we will as, as. Too far. But, um
▶ 4:55:37I think we need more with the clintons. >> what. To committee will. Postpone further consideration, tempt. However up to substantial compliance and agreement. The committee. Will return to the hearing on the contempt when you're recognized.
▶ 4:56:12>> yeah. Thank you, madam chair. And I have been trying to come to an agreement on to say, committee with all relevant information, but chairman comer was promoting, in my opinion, is always vexed. This contempt resolution had no should not moe forward. But I did, because removing this was the right thing to do, and I know it wasn't easy.
▶ 4:56:40Uh, our side of these not afraid of what holding rich and powerful men accountable, including. The president, the united states, and finally, madam chair, I I opposed the appropriations package. So I but in this measure, uh, but in this new tax law, democrats strongly oppose which would.
▶ 4:57:12Blow a $600 million hole in dc. But a letter from the mayor and the chairman of the dc council s current tax filing season. Insane. Get their way. They would be undoing dc's new child tax because thousands of with c, to deal with, uh, childhood.
▶ 4:57:34So, um, in any event, uh, I just want to record and,, I yield back. >> is there anyone else? Affi on the. Air? 7148 jay rouse.
▶ 4:57:52142 or 890. Mr. ledger for this, I'm sorry for not none. This closes the hearing. It's a motion from the gentleman from georgia. Mr.
▶ 4:58:21Jackson, move grang for the consideration consolidad appropriations. Act rule makes an order. A single motion of the shins or his designee, that the house concur in the rule waives all points of order against the.
▶ 4:58:41Considering, the rule provides a the senate amendments and provides one hour of debate on the motion of the committee on. The rule further provides for consideration of a2 disapproving the district of columbia council income and franchise tax conformity, and revision to 2025 under a closed rule resolution.
▶ 4:59:09The rule provide. Considered as read. The rule waives all points of joints one hour by the chair and ranking minority member of the designeee rule 604h of the home rule act joint resolution, and if under consideration for all dc councie
▶ 4:59:40Congressional period described in 602 of such act rule further provide consideration air 4090 critical mineral act under a waives all points of consideration of the rule provides that the. Amendment, in the nature of a subject committee on natural resources now printed in the bill to be considered and the bill as amended, shall be considered as all points in the bill. As amendment.
▶ 5:00:08The rule provides debate, equally divided and controlled by the ranking minority member of. The committee on natural resources or their respective designee, provides one motion to recommit. Thank you. Mr. jackson. Is. There any discussion or amendment.
▶ 5:00:33I miss kate, when you're recognized. Thank you, madam chair. >> I have an amendment to the rule. I'm here. The senate amen, h.r. 71, the wasserman, which would prohibit the detain or der as well.
▶ 5:00:57And recipients, otherwise known as yes, who meey eligibility limits prohibition s to individuals with criminal uh , convictions. We have, uh, haid venezuelan folks in our come he.
▶ 5:01:21Yes and the summary, uh, file oa lot of hardship. I think this sense, and that people vote amendment. Thank you, miss scanlon. >> discussion miss scanlon. Hea. None. The question is on the amendment by saying I, I, uh, opposed, say no. Uh.
▶ 5:01:47In the opinion of the noes have it a recorded vote. The clerk will call the roll. >> Mrs. fischbach. Mr. Mr. roy,y now Mr. scott. No. Mr. Mr. jeff Mr. jack no. S. Hi scanlon, miss. Scanlon. Uh joe neguse. Mr. neguse.
▶ 5:02:14No, madam clerk. Will report the total for the noes amendments dt agree to amendment, ma'am . >> ma'am, the you're recognized, madam chair. >> I went to move the committee making order. Amendment number. H.r.
▶ 5:02:417148, consolidated pro. 26, offered by representatives, which would civilly liable. Or ice. Officer violates an cause of action against the federal.
▶ 5:03:00As of october 2020, for the immigration agencies held at least as citizens against more e been arrested, detained and immn detention. You can't be and sayg they violated election this nume 200. No? Is U.S.
▶ 5:03:32Citizens often stop by ice theyo they look latino? My son's that is violation of the and. Fourth amendment of the constitution coming from ice cbp and immunity. Well, that is not true .
▶ 5:03:57Is speak out and say they do not id indeed, uh, they. Cannot continue to violate. Rights. Ane shouldn't this conversation. We shouldn't be dg a law to them for that.
▶ 5:04:24And and I urge my. Colleagues to vote for this amendment. And I . >> thank you. Mr. the amendment. Hearing none the is on the amendment. All those in favor signify by saying I opposed say no in the opinion.
▶ 5:04:56Chair, the noes have it. Mr. toe clerk all the roll Mr. no Mr. norman. Mr. Mr. roy Mr. roy. No. Mrs. horton. Mr. langworthy shirley. Mr. scott. No no Mr. jack. Mr. >> jack. >> Mr. scanlon. Miss. Scanlon ir fernandez. So I am madam. No. T, the.
▶ 5:05:25Total for yeas eight nays.d to any the rule leisure, for thr recognized have an. Amendment to the rule. >> I move the committee, make an amendment critical mineral dominance act offered. Prohibits of a mining project if it is owned of concern or subsidiary.
▶ 5:05:52Theory of a foreign entity of concern. In other good discussion about this earlier be providing, authority to uh, to come and lae the commonwealth. >> it's I it over here in this committee.
▶ 5:06:17>> I'm not going long explanation because I think we've had it, there to be, uh, a vote on this, uh, motion. And I'm we should go on the record of where we stand in terms from mining ag them, uh, across the ocean. And I anderson. I think you've brought. It's important point.
▶ 5:06:44Um, some the we china committee will in a way, t to be done within the laws that we concerning ownership. So done. I admire what you're doing. Um, any further.
▶ 5:07:12Hearing on the questions on the mmpi by folks e it the amendment. Is not agreed to about okay. >> Mrs. fischbach. No. Mrs. fischbach, no. Mr. roy. Mr. roy.
▶ 5:07:44Scott. Mr. scott. No. Mr. griffith. Jack. Mr. jack. Mr. mcgovern. Mr. mcgovern. Mr. nego >> the clerk will report the total. For the no's. Have it the amendments not agreed to their amendments. Um, to hearing no further discussion.
▶ 5:08:12The question from the gentleman from georgia. All those in favor? I those opposed say no in the opinion chair. The ayes have it. The motion is Mr. mcgovern request to roll call a recorded clerk will call fischbach. >> yes. Mrs. fish, I Mr. roy. Uh, Mr. roy, I Mrs. sterling were the scott Mr. scott griffith I Mr. jack I Mr.
▶ 5:08:41Jack I Mr. mcgovern scanlon. Miss. Scanlon no. Mr. negus fernandes Mr. fernandes no. Madam chair I the clerk were yays four nays. >> the ayes have is agreed. To accordingly the rule for the majority. Mr.
▶ 5:09:09Mcgovern will handle it for my objection. This very interesting meeting is a thank you. Know, I think I can choose or not.