Budget Hearing – Department of Homeland Security: CBP, ICE, and U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services

DHS Budget and Border OversightHouse Appropriations Subcommittee on Department of Homeland Security · 2026-04-16 · 119th Congress
The House Appropriations Subcommittee on Homeland Security convened this budget hearing to examine the President's fiscal year 2027 budget requests for Customs and Border Protection, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and U.S. Begins at 0:03:38
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FY2027 DHS budget hearing amid ongoing shutdown, ICE detention scrutiny

Purpose

The House Appropriations Subcommittee on Homeland Security convened this budget hearing to examine the President's fiscal year 2027 budget requests for Customs and Border Protection, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, held amid an ongoing DHS funding lapse that had left the department shut down for more than 60 days. Members also used the session to press witnesses on border wall construction, detention facility conditions, deaths in ICE custody, and controversial enforcement operations. Begins at0:03:38

Who spoke

Chairman (Rep. David Joyce area chair, unnamed by transcript)0:03:38: Opened the hearing, noted the compressed one-round schedule for the CBP/ICE/USCIS panel0:03:38, demanded 48-hour turnaround on written responses0:04:37, and pressed on an unanswered document request regarding a Montana facility contract0:05:35; closed with remarks about improving DHS-Congress communication and upcoming reconciliation deadlines1:50:19.

Ranking Member Henry Cuellar (D-TX)0:06:33: Criticized pursuing partisan reconciliation funding instead of annual appropriations0:07:21, cited the $75 billion appropriated for ICE under reconciliation0:09:43, and flagged USCIS's new 200-person law enforcement arm as potentially duplicative of ICE0:10:55; in questioning, raised border wall waivers using outdated Biden-era migration data0:33:10, entered a report on flood risks from wall construction near Laredo0:34:07, pressed on checkpoint expansion funding0:38:20, and questioned the need for USCIS's new 200 agents0:42:18.

Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-CT)0:11:24: Called it "absurd" to hold a funding hearing while Republicans pursue partisan reconciliation bills0:11:51, said 44 detainees have died in ICE custody since Trump took office, including 25 this fiscal year — a 20-year high0:14:50, and cited ICE's violation of nearly 100 federal court orders in Minnesota in January0:14:50; called for warrant requirements and mandatory independent investigations of misconduct0:16:17.

Rodney Scott, CBP Commissioner0:18:17: Said 68,000+ CBP employees are working without pay during the shutdown0:18:46, reported illegal entries are at record lows0:20:29, and told the committee border wall construction is "ahead of schedule and below budget," with nearly 50 miles of new primary wall completed1:26:14; described AI-enabled surveillance towers with four vendors now passing autonomy testing1:29:10.

Todd Lyons, Acting Director, ICE0:23:25: Reported ICE has arrested nearly 457,000 aliens since January 20, including 281,000 with criminal histories and 1,600 suspected terrorists0:25:17, requested $5.4 billion for enforcement and removal operations0:25:17, and confirmed 44-45 deaths in ICE custody on his watch, the highest ever, attributing it to record detention populations1:14:40; said the Geraldo Lucascampos death at Camp East Montana has been referred to the FBI1:03:43.

Joseph Edlow, Director, USCIS0:27:59: Reported USCIS collected $7.5 billion in fee revenue in FY20250:29:17, said E-Verify processed nearly 44 million cases and prevented fraudulent use of over 10,000 Social Security numbers0:29:44, and stated H-2A visa processing remains at 5-7 days with no backlog0:54:41; defended the new 200-agent criminal investigation branch as narrowly focused on immigration fraud prosecutions0:42:46.

Rep. John Rutherford (R-FL)0:44:42: Argued DHS funding delays stem from Senate Democrats blocking cloture, not the House0:45:32, praised the 287(g) program citing $1.1 billion in funding and a 1,088% increase in signed local agreements0:49:11, and questioned the scalability of detention facilities versus permanent structures0:50:37.

Rep. Veronica Escobar (D-TX)0:55:27: Said she was glad Kristi Noem, Corey Lewandowski, and Greg Bovino are no longer at DHS0:55:44, pressed on the $1.24 billion Camp East Montana contract and its new contractor Amentum0:57:03, and raised plans for warehouses in Socorro, Texas to hold 8,500 people despite local opposition1:00:06; asked about the Geraldo Lucascampos custody death, confirmed now with the FBI1:03:43.

Rep. Dan Newhouse (R-WA)1:04:39: Asked about USCIS's 6.29 million case backlog, a 65% increase1:05:06, and pressed Scott and Lyons on fentanyl seizure figures, noting CBP seized 721,000 pounds of drugs and ICE nearly 1 million pounds of fentanyl and precursors1:10:01; asked about shutdown impacts on child exploitation investigations1:12:24.

Rep. Robin Kelly (D-IL)1:14:09: Pressed Lyons on the record 44-45 deaths in ICE custody and lack of internal death-prevention policies1:16:02, cited NBC News reporting that ICE stopped publicly reporting custody death details since mid-February1:17:30, and pressed Scott on a Border Patrol case in upstate New York where a nearly blind refugee was left in winter and later ruled a homicide1:20:20; criticized use of BORTAC tactical units in Illinois's Operation Midway Blitz1:21:46.

Rep. Michael Guest (R-MS)1:24:02: Apologized to witnesses for congressional dysfunction over DHS funding1:24:21, asked about border wall progress, prompting Scott's "ahead of schedule, below budget" statement1:26:14, and questioned the vetting process for autonomous surveillance tower vendors1:28:13.

Rep. Juan Ciscomani (R-AZ)1:32:38: Asked Scott about fentanyl interdiction at Arizona ports of entry1:34:27, asked Lyons about detention facility conditions based on his own visit1:37:29, and, as a naturalized citizen, asked Edlow about green card and naturalization processing times1:39:41.

Rep. Ashley Hinson (R-IA)1:42:30: Asked Edlow about USCIS fraud detection funding, citing a recent arrest of a South Korean man in California for visa and green card fraud1:42:55, and asked Lyons about HSI's work against CCP-linked transnational crime, including a gift-card fraud case funneling money to the Chinese military1:47:36; asked Scott about CBP's obligation of reconciliation funds1:48:48.

Key moments

DeLauro said 44 detainees have died in ICE custody since Trump took office, including 25 this fiscal year, calling it a 20-year high, and cited ICE's violation of nearly 100 federal court orders in Minnesota in January0:14:50.

Lyons confirmed under questioning from Rep. Kelly that ICE has recorded its highest-ever detainee death toll (44-45), attributing it to record detention populations rather than any specific policy failure1:14:401:15:07.

Kelly cited NBC News reporting that ICE stopped posting custody death investigation details since mid-February, which a DHS spokesperson attributed to "non-essential reporting" during the shutdown; Lyons said there is no legal basis for that characterization1:17:301:18:22.

Scott announced border wall construction is "ahead of schedule and below budget," with nearly 50 miles of new primary wall, 5.5 miles of buoy barrier, and 13.2 miles of secondary barrier completed1:26:141:26:40.

Escobar pressed Lyons on the $1.24 billion Camp East Montana detention contract, secured a commitment to provide the new Amentum contract, and raised plans for three Socorro, Texas warehouses to hold 8,500 people despite a local city council moratorium0:57:031:00:06.

Kelly raised the case of a nearly blind refugee abandoned in winter in upstate New York whose death was ruled a homicide by a medical examiner; Scott confirmed CBP's Office of Professional Responsibility is investigating, with facts "a little bit in dispute"1:20:201:20:51.

Lyons said reconciliation funding under the "Working Families Tax Cut Act" cannot legally be used for non-law-enforcement personnel, HSI child exploitation investigations, or basic operations, forcing shutdown-driven gaps despite the perception that ICE is "flush with money"0:24:481:13:39.

Cuellar and Escobar both pressed on the withheld Montana facility contract from contractor Acquisition Logistics; Lyons attributed the delay to Department of War proprietary-information restrictions and committed to full transparency on the replacement Amentum contract0:05:350:57:25.

Newhouse cited combined agency drug seizures of roughly 721,000 pounds (CBP) and nearly 1 million pounds (ICE) of fentanyl and precursor chemicals in the past year1:10:01.

Rutherford stated the House passed 12 appropriations bills while the Senate failed to secure the 60 votes needed for cloture, attributing the DHS shutdown to Senate Democrats rather than House inaction0:45:32.

Metadata

CommitteeHouse Appropriations Subcommittee on Department of Homeland Security
Chamber / CongressHouse · 119th Congress
Date2026-04-16
TypeHearing
Witnesses
Rodney Scott — Commissioner, U.S. Customs and Border Protection
Todd Lyons — Acting Director, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement
Joseph Edlow — Director, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services
Videoyoutube
Transcript257 caption blocks · 19,363 words · 1:54:44 runtime
EventCongress.gov 119149