Hearings to examine the expected nomination of Peter B. Hegseth, to be Secretary of Defense

Defense Posture and Global ThreatsSenate Armed Services · January 14, 2025 · 119th Congress
The Senate Armed Services Committee met to consider the nomination of Pete Hegseth to be Secretary of Defense in the incoming Trump administration. Begins at ▶ 0:15:14
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Title

Confirmation hearing for Pete Hegseth as Secretary of Defense

Purpose

The Senate Armed Services Committee met to consider the nomination of Pete Hegseth to be Secretary of Defense in the incoming Trump administration. Chairman Wicker and Ranking Member Reed offered opposing assessments of Hegseth's fitness for the role, after which two witnesses (former Senator Norm Coleman and incoming National Security Advisor Mike Waltz) introduced the nominee before senators questioned him for one seven-minute round each on his record, policy views, and personal conduct. Begins at▶ 0:15:14

Who spoke

• Chair Roger Wicker (R-MS)▶ 0:15:14: Opened the hearing, argued the Pentagon has repeatedly fallen short under both parties' civilian leadership▶ 0:20:08, and praised Hegseth's "warrior ethos" and unconventional background▶ 0:22:29; later questioned him on defense spending below 3% of GDP▶ 1:04:44 and deterring China▶ 1:06:39.

• Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI), Ranking Member▶ 0:27:12: Said he does not believe Hegseth is qualified, citing reports of disregard for laws of war, financial mismanagement, and alleged misconduct▶ 0:29:02; criticized Hegseth's writings calling political opponents "foes"▶ 0:36:22 and his failure to meet with Democratic committee members▶ 0:35:21; later pressed for release of the FBI background report▶ 1:08:54 and for a second round of questioning▶ 1:07:31.

• Norm Coleman, former Senator (introducing witness)▶ 0:38:09: Introduced Hegseth as "the real deal" and urged confirmation, citing recruitment declines and the Afghanistan withdrawal under the Biden administration▶ 0:39:27.

• Mike Waltz, incoming National Security Advisor (introducing witness)▶ 0:40:52: Called Hegseth a close friend and fellow combat veteran, praised his focus on "lethal readiness"▶ 0:43:53, and cited a recruitment crisis and cost overruns in weapons programs▶ 0:44:24.

• Pete Hegseth, nominee▶ 0:47:13: In his opening statement pledged to restore a "warrior ethos," end DEI initiatives, and focus on lethality, merit, and accountability▶ 0:53:21; throughout questioning defended his record against allegations as a "coordinated smear campaign"▶ 1:01:02, reversed earlier public statements opposing women in combat roles▶ 2:11:55, denied drinking-on-the-job allegations as "anonymous smears"▶ 2:15:54, and declined to say whether physical violence against a spouse would be disqualifying▶ 2:31:59.

• Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)▶ 1:26:21: Noted Hegseth never followed up on a pre-hearing meeting despite her having voted to confirm six prior secretaries of defense▶ 1:26:48; pressed him on his "women should not be in combat" statements and the Women, Peace and Security law▶ 1:27:34.

• Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR)▶ 1:34:29: Asked Hegseth to differentiate types of combat roles and physical demands▶ 1:34:29, and gave him a chance to respond to protester disruptions regarding Israel and Christian Zionism▶ 1:39:38.

• Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-CT)▶ 1:58:30: Presented tax records showing deficits at Veterans for Freedom and Concerned Veterans for America▶ 1:58:54▶ 2:01:49, and asked whether Hegseth would submit to an expanded FBI background check▶ 2:04:14.

• Sen. Joni Ernst (R-IA)▶ 2:06:37: Focused on DOD audit priorities, women in combat standards, and sexual assault prevention, asking Hegseth to commit to appointing a senior official on sexual assault response▶ 2:13:39.

• Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)▶ 2:59:22: Quoted Hegseth's statements from 2013 to 2024 opposing women in combat and highlighted a 32-day reversal after his nomination▶ 3:02:40; asked if he would commit to a 10-year ban on working for defense contractors after leaving office, which he declined to pledge▶ 3:05:39.

• Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-AL)▶ 3:06:36: Raised recruiting concerns tied to DEI training and asked how Hegseth would address bloated staff numbers, citing an increase from 7 to 42 four-star generals since WWII▶ 3:13:10.

• Sen. Gary Peters (D-MI)▶ 3:13:49: Questioned Hegseth's management experience, noting he supervised at most about 100 people versus 3 million at DOD▶ 3:16:30, and pressed for examples of driving down costs or acquisition reform▶ 3:18:26.

• Sen. Markwayne Mullin (R-OK)▶ 3:22:00: Defended Hegseth against hypocrisy charges, noting other senators' personal failings, and asked about his approach to building a leadership team▶ 3:26:16.

• Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-IL)▶ 3:29:32: Said Hegseth is "not qualified," pressing him on his lack of audit experience▶ 3:31:33 and inability to name ASEAN countries or major international security agreements▶ 3:33:01.

• Sen. Ted Budd (R-NC)▶ 3:38:11: Asked about recruiting standards, obesity in recruits, and the mix of manned versus unmanned aircraft in the Indo-Pacific▶ 3:43:19.

• Sen. Jacky Rosen (D-NV)▶ 3:44:42: Said Hegseth declined to meet with her, then pressed on veterans' benefits rhetoric▶ 3:46:47 and whether an America First approach means abandoning allies like Ukraine and NATO▶ 3:50:05.

• Sen. Eric Schmitt (R-MO)▶ 3:52:00: Criticized DEI programs at military academies and asked Hegseth to commit to reinstating and back-paying troops discharged over COVID vaccine mandates, which he did▶ 3:57:55.

• Sen. Mark Kelly (D-AZ)▶ 3:59:04: Requested a second round of questions▶ 3:59:04 and pressed on specific alcohol-related workplace allegations, which Hegseth repeatedly called "anonymous smears"▶ 4:01:44.

• Sen. Jim Banks (R-IN)▶ 4:07:38: Asked about man-hours spent on DEI/counter-extremism training▶ 4:07:59 and Hegseth's views on racial quotas and affirmative action, which he opposed▶ 4:13:43.

• Sen. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI)▶ 4:16:29: Questioned whether Hegseth would resist an illegal order to use active-duty troops domestically▶ 4:17:35 and whether Gen. CQ Brown's position was under review▶ 4:22:33.

• Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH)▶ 4:22:59: Submitted a letter opposing Hegseth's nomination from a retired general into the record.

• Sen. Roger Marshall or unnamed Republican senator questioning on push-ups/gear▶ 4:24:26: Asked rapid-fire questions on genders, push-up counts, and equipment to demonstrate war-fighter knowledge, then asked about Navy shipbuilding priorities▶ 4:27:06.

Key moments

• Reed stated financial records show Veterans for Freedom spent more than $9 million against $8.7 million raised in 2008, leaving less than $1,000 in the bank by January 2009▶ 1:58:54▶ 1:59:29.

• Hegseth was asked repeatedly by Sen. Kaine whether a 2017 Monterey, California incident involving a confidential settlement payment constituted sexual assault; Hegseth called it a "false claim" and said he was "completely cleared"▶ 2:28:45▶ 2:32:33.

• Sen. Warren confronted Hegseth with quotes spanning 2013–2024 opposing women in combat, then noted he reversed the position 32 days after his nomination, calling it a "nomination conversion"▶ 3:04:39.

• Sen. Duckworth asked Hegseth to name a status of forces agreement or ASEAN nations; he could not name any ASEAN member correctly, citing China, Japan, and Australia instead▶ 3:34:00▶ 3:34:15.

• Sen. Peters noted the largest organization Hegseth had managed was roughly 100 employees with an $18 billion budget comparison unfavorable to DOD's $525 billion budget▶ 3:31:02.

• Sen. Kaine pressed on whether physical violence against a spouse would be disqualifying for Secretary of Defense; Hegseth would not answer directly, calling it "a hypothetical"▶ 2:31:59.

• Reed read from an email sent to a serving officer threatening removal and pension loss for "disloyal, corrupt, traitorous" views, asking if Hegseth was aware of such emails; he said he was not▶ 1:12:56▶ 1:13:07.

• Sen. Slotkin asked whether Hegseth would resist an order to deploy the 82nd Airborne domestically; he declined to answer directly, citing ongoing "conversations with the president"▶ 4:19:07.

• Hegseth committed to reinstating, back-paying, and apologizing to roughly 8,000 service members discharged for refusing COVID vaccines, per Sen. Schmitt's request▶ 3:57:55▶ 3:58:03.

• Sen. Duckworth noted Hegseth's largest managed budget ($18 billion cited by her, though Hegseth's own figures were smaller) was about 51,560 times smaller than the Secretary of Defense's $525 billion budget▶ 3:31:02.

Metadata

CommitteeSenate Armed Services
Chamber / CongressSenate · 119th Congress
DateJanuary 14, 2025
TypeMeeting
Witnesses
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Transcript821 caption blocks · 35,433 words · 4:30:41 runtime
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