Hearings to examine the expected nomination of Lee M. Zeldin, to be Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency

Nuclear Regulation and EPA NominationsSenate Environment and Public Works · 2025-01-16 · 119th Congress
The Senate Environment and Public Works Committee held its first hearing of the 119th Congress, and Chair Shelley Moore Capito's first as chairman, to consider President Trump's nomination of former Congressman Lee Zeldin to be EPA Administrator [0:17:05]. Begins at 0:15:13
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Confirmation hearing for Lee Zeldin to lead the EPA

Purpose

The Senate Environment and Public Works Committee held its first hearing of the 119th Congress, and Chair Shelley Moore Capito's first as chairman, to consider President Trump's nomination of former Congressman Lee Zeldin to be EPA Administrator0:16:57. Zeldin, joined by his wife, daughter, and mother, testified on his priorities for the agency, including PFAS, cooperative federalism, energy reliability, and regulatory durability, while members questioned him on climate science, environmental justice, enforcement practices, and funding commitments. Begins at0:15:13

Who spoke

Chair Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV)0:15:13: Opened her first hearing as chair, stressed EPA reliability and affordability concerns citing a NERC forecast of blackouts in over half the states0:19:15, and later pressed Zeldin on Class VI well primacy for carbon storage2:41:18 and the Muddy Creek acid mine drainage cleanup2:44:48.

Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI), Ranking Member0:20:49: Presented Capito a historic gavel0:20:49, showed a map of Rhode Island land projected to flood0:22:23, and pressed Zeldin on whether he would resist reported plans to cut EPA's workforce by two-thirds and gut civil service protections2:46:48.

Mr. Lee Zeldin, EPA Administrator nominee0:34:34: Pledged to follow the law, honor cooperative federalism and the Sackett decision on WOTUS0:56:47, and said carbon dioxide is not one of the six named Clean Air Act pollutants but EPA treats it as such per Supreme Court precedent0:48:18; said climate change is real1:00:54 and that greenhouse gases trap heat0:49:17, while repeatedly deferring specific climate metrics to agency scientists0:51:23.

Sen. John Barrasso (R-WY)0:29:07: Introduced Zeldin, citing support letters from the National Association of Clean Water Agencies and the Long Island Water Conference0:31:21.

Sen. Kevin Cramer (R-ND)0:53:28: Asked whether the Sackett ruling was "prescriptive or ambiguous," and Zeldin called it "clear and prescriptive"0:54:52.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT)0:59:42: Noted 2024 was the hottest year on record and pressed Zeldin on whether he agrees with Trump that climate change is a hoax; Zeldin said he believes climate change is real1:00:54 and secured a general commitment on the Solar for All program1:05:23.

Sen. John Curtis (R-UT)1:06:02: Raised Uinta Basin methane measurement issues, noting 80% of measured methane comes from non-fossil-fuel sources1:08:27, and pressed on chemical-approval backlogs for PFAS alternatives1:11:04.

Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-OR)1:11:40: Asked Zeldin to itemize paid op-eds and media studio rentals for transparency1:12:12, and raised microplastics' link to cancer and brain accumulation1:15:53.

Sen. Dan Sullivan (R-AK)1:18:57: Invited Zeldin to Alaska1:19:27 and detailed armed EPA raids on placer miners and mechanic shops that found no violations, seeking a commitment to prioritize compliance over armed enforcement1:22:27; later presented a chart on U.S. emissions leadership via natural gas exports2:57:23.

Sen. Mark Kelly (D-AZ)1:26:07: Described Maricopa County's ozone nonattainment despite 80% of pollutants coming from wildfires or cross-border sources1:27:27, and later raised Tucson PFAS groundwater contamination requiring nearly $71 million in remediation3:07:20.

Sen. Pete Ricketts (R-NE)1:31:44: Pressed for timely Renewable Fuel Standard (RVO) rulemaking, noting the 2026 RVO is already over a year late1:34:10, and on year-round E151:35:07; later sought a commitment to claw back misspent environmental justice funds3:08:46.

Sen. Ed Markey (D-MA)1:37:48: Challenged Zeldin on a 2016 statement favoring reduced fossil fuel reliance versus Trump calling climate change a hoax1:37:48, and pressed on the Massachusetts v. EPA endangerment obligation amid the L.A. fires1:39:47; later disputed calling EPA fuel-economy rules an "EV mandate"3:14:15.

Sen. John Boozman (R-AR)1:43:42: Asked about EPA-USDA collaboration on pesticide regulation and food supply1:46:22.

Sen. Adam Schiff (D-CA)1:48:56: Sought commitments on wildfire recovery assistance modeled on Hurricane Sandy response1:51:01, review of a denied Tijuana River Superfund designation1:54:30, and lead pipe replacement in Fresno3:22:40.

Sen. Cynthia Lummis (R-WY)1:54:58: Asked whether EPA's job is to follow science or the law regarding Clean Power Plan 2.01:55:50, and raised PFAS liability risk for "passive receiver" water utilities2:00:38.

Sen. Angela Alsobrooks (D-MD)2:02:31: Sought yes/no commitments on Chesapeake Bay funding2:04:15 and lead pipe funding2:05:02, and asked whether Zeldin supports reported plans to fire 75% of EPA staff, which he said he was unaware of2:06:48.

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC)2:08:05: Discussed the bipartisan Climate Solutions Caucus and nuclear power2:10:25, and raised the idea of a carbon border fee targeting China and India2:11:55.

Sen. Roger Wicker (R-MS)2:13:45: Raised DeSoto County wastewater funding needs2:15:43, the Pearl River flood control project2:16:43, and objected to the "Good Neighbor Rule" penalizing Mississippi for downwind Texas ozone2:18:15.

Sen. Alex Padilla (D-CA)2:19:44: Pressed for commitment to California's Clean Air Act waivers under existing law2:20:43 and to make the temporary low-income water assistance program permanent2:25:48.

Sen. Jerry Moran (R-KS)2:26:46: Raised stripper well regulation burdens on small oil and gas producers2:27:14, sustainable aviation fuel2:28:56, and small-town water infrastructure affordability2:30:44.

Sen. Lisa Blunt Rochester (D-DE)2:33:49: Questioned Zeldin's ties to America First Policy Institute donors and roughly $300,000 in oil and gas campaign contributions, asking how he'd resist industry influence2:49:41; Zeldin said no donor has special influence over his decisions2:51:30.

Key moments

Whitehouse pressed Zeldin with a series of yes/no climate questions: Zeldin agreed CO2 and methane trap heat0:49:170:49:31 and that oceans are acidifying from fossil fuel emissions0:51:06, but repeatedly deferred on whether the 1.5-degree threshold has been crossed, citing the need to rely on agency scientists0:51:23.

Sullivan detailed EPA raids involving up to 40 armed agents on Alaska placer miners and mechanic shops that found no Clean Water Act violations, asking whether EPA should have armed agents at all; Zeldin called the stories "outrageous" and said he had begun asking who authorizes such operations1:24:481:25:33.

Sanders directly asked whether Zeldin agrees with Trump that climate change is a hoax; Zeldin said "I believe climate change is real" and characterized Trump's comments as criticism of policy costs rather than denial of the science1:00:54.

Markey pressed on Massachusetts v. EPA's endangerment finding amid the Los Angeles fires; Zeldin said the ruling does not create an automatic obligation to regulate absent further steps, prompting Markey to accuse him of refusing to accept EPA's "central responsibility"1:40:391:43:32.

Blunt Rochester detailed Zeldin's America First Policy Institute board ties, donors including Koch-connected PACs and a billionaire fracking CEO, and roughly $300,000 in oil-and-gas campaign contributions since 2007, asking how he would resist industry pressure once confirmed2:50:46.

Zeldin raised concern unprompted about a video of a departing EPA political appointee describing "tossing gold bars off the Titanic" to distribute billions in grants before Inauguration Day, saying he did not know what grants were referenced but found it concerning3:20:21; Markey countered that 80% of such grants went to Republican districts3:20:37.

Cramer and Zeldin agreed the Supreme Court's Sackett decision was "clear and prescriptive" on WOTUS, with Zeldin committing to rulemaking that gives farmers certainty without hiring an attorney0:54:520:57:13.

Lummis and Sullivan presented data arguing U.S. natural gas exports have driven the largest global emissions reductions of any country, contrasting this with rising Chinese emissions2:58:14; Zeldin agreed U.S. LNG exports "bring down" global emissions2:59:22.

Kelly detailed nearly $71 million spent by Tucson on PFAS remediation after nearly 30 groundwater wells were shut down for exceeding EPA limits, securing Zeldin's commitment to continue working with the city3:07:203:07:55.

Capito closed by entering a Suffolk County Water Authority support letter into the record and predicting Zeldin's confirmation would be "positive," while Zeldin committed to prioritizing West Virginia's Class VI carbon storage well permitting2:42:43 and the Muddy Creek acid mine drainage cleanup2:46:06.

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CommitteeSenate Environment and Public Works
Chamber / CongressSenate · 119th Congress
Date2025-01-16
TypeMeeting
Witnesses
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Transcript591 caption blocks · 26,064 words · 3:30:59 runtime
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