Hearings to examine the nomination of Howard Lutnick, of New York, to be Secretary of Commerce

Commerce, Space, and Science NominationsSenate Commerce, Science, and Transportation · January 29, 2025 · 119th Congress
The Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation Committee convened this hearing on January 29, 2025, to consider the nomination of Howard Lutnick, chairman of Cantor Fitzgerald, to be Secretary of Commerce. Begins at ▶ 0:18:46
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Confirmation hearing for Howard Lutnick as Secretary of Commerce

Purpose

The Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation Committee convened this hearing on January 29, 2025, to consider the nomination of Howard Lutnick, chairman of Cantor Fitzgerald, to be Secretary of Commerce. Members questioned Lutnick on ethics divestment, spectrum policy, NOAA and fisheries, broadband deployment under the BEAD program, the CHIPS and Science Act, tariffs and trade policy, AI standards, and the administration's brief freeze on federal grant funding. Vice President JD Vance introduced Lutnick, who was joined by his family. Begins at▶ 0:18:46

Who spoke

• Chair Ted Cruz (R-TX)▶ 0:18:46: Opened the hearing, praised Lutnick's biography and business record▶ 0:19:39, and pressed him on NTIA spectrum policy▶ 0:46:08, NOAA's Gulf biological opinion deadline▶ 0:48:45, the AI Safety Institute's replacement with technical standards▶ 3:13:12, the BEAD broadband program's failure to connect a single household▶ 3:14:13, and the Tech Hubs program's funding to Texas▶ 3:15:55; disputed Democrats' characterization of the funding freeze as unlawful▶ 3:38:49.

• Sen. Maria Cantwell (D-WA), Ranking Member▶ 0:22:21: Cited a $600 billion overnight drop in an American company's valuation tied to China▶ 0:23:13, asked about CHIPS Act preservation▶ 0:50:29 and keeping NOAA intact▶ 0:50:59, and questioned Lutnick on Cantor Fitzgerald's Tether bond and stablecoin audits▶ 0:52:56▶ 0:56:04; later noted BEAD had actually connected over 100,000 locations▶ 3:38:07.

• VP JD Vance▶ 0:31:20: Introduced Lutnick as a "product guy and sales guy"▶ 0:31:47, recounted Lutnick's 9/11 losses and rebuilding of Cantor Fitzgerald▶ 0:34:00, and described his personal friendship with the Lutnick family▶ 0:36:21.

• Howard Lutnick, nominee▶ 0:38:21: Gave an emotional account of losing both parents by 18 and 658 colleagues on 9/11▶ 0:39:30▶ 0:40:57; committed to divesting all business interests within 90 days per an OGE agreement▶ 0:44:58; called the CHIPS Act "an excellent down payment" needing review▶ 0:50:31; supported audited, 1:1-backed stablecoins▶ 0:54:39; favored across-the-board country tariffs over targeted ones▶ 1:07:33; said he would comply with the law▶ 1:41:53 and work for the president▶ 2:44:32.

• Sen. John Thune (R-SD), Majority Leader▶ 0:28:59: Filled time before Vance's arrival▶ 0:28:59; pressed on the BEAD program's zero connections and Biden-era mandates like climate and labor requirements▶ 1:00:02; asked about AI regulation approach▶ 1:01:24.

• Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN)▶ 1:05:03: Asked whether Lutnick would continue CHIPS Act operations amid a funding freeze▶ 1:05:27; raised employee retention concerns▶ 1:05:54; pressed on targeted vs. across-the-board tariffs▶ 1:07:21; later followed up on Cantor Fitzgerald's Greenland mining interest▶ 3:18:04 and human trafficking in supply chains▶ 3:22:04.

• Sen. Roger Wicker (R-MS)▶ 1:09:33: Called broadband the "rural electrification issue of the century"▶ 1:10:01; invited Lutnick to Stennis Space Center▶ 1:11:07; raised Tech Hubs funding allocation for the Southeast▶ 1:13:06.

• Sen. Brian Schatz (D-HI)▶ 1:13:56: Got Lutnick's commitment to a constitutionally accurate census▶ 1:14:24; asked if he supported dismantling NOAA per Project 2025 (Lutnick said no)▶ 1:15:07; raised Hawaii fisheries consultation▶ 1:16:12 and what replaces the rescinded AI Safety Institute▶ 1:17:12.

• Sen. Deb Fischer (R-NE)▶ 1:19:10: Warned that DOD spectrum, including nuclear command and control and F-35 systems, is not "lying dormant"▶ 1:20:04; asked about retaliatory tariffs' impact on agriculture▶ 1:21:52.

• Sen. Tammy Baldwin (D-WI)▶ 1:25:35: Pressed for a yes/no on whether Wisconsin's biotech Tech Hub should worry about future funding tranches amid the freeze; Lutnick said he didn't know the details▶ 1:28:40; cited $27 billion in farm export losses from 2018–2019 China tariffs▶ 1:29:50.

• Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse / Sen. Moran (R-KS)▶ 1:34:55: Asked about a sporting-event tourism task force (FIFA, LA Olympics)▶ 1:35:25 and vessel speed rules protecting right whales▶ 1:36:19.

• Sen. Ed Markey (D-MA)▶ 1:36:46: Challenged Lutnick on whether the OMB funding freeze was lawful; Lutnick said he'd "rely on the president's advisers"▶ 1:37:43; pressed repeatedly for a commitment to honor finalized CHIPS grant contracts▶ 3:33:30, which Lutnick said he'd need to read first▶ 3:33:57.

• Sen. Dan Sullivan (R-AK)▶ 1:42:51: Dubbed Lutnick "Godfather of American Fishermen"▶ 1:43:54; secured commitments to visit Alaska▶ 1:44:56, block Russian and Chinese seafood imports▶ 1:47:44, and advance the Alaska LNG project▶ 1:48:13.

• Sen. Gary Peters (D-MI)▶ 1:49:26: Raised concerns that Canada/Mexico tariffs could raise vehicle prices given integrated auto supply chains▶ 1:50:24; Lutnick tied the tariffs to fentanyl and border enforcement, not economic policy▶ 1:51:57.

• Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN)▶ 1:55:11: Cited China now leading in 57 critical technologies (up from 3 in the early 2010s)▶ 1:56:09; raised the 820,000-application patent backlog and 21-month wait times▶ 1:57:13.

• Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-IL)▶ 2:00:25: Cited a $51 million grant to an Illinois biomanufacturing Tech Hub▶ 2:00:53; pressed on whether Lutnick would refuse an illegal presidential order, referencing a claim Trump directed DOD to shoot protesters▶ 2:02:20.

• Sen. Todd Young (R-IN)▶ 2:05:41: Discussed basic research funding and IP leakage to adversaries, citing DeepSeek's use of "stolen" American technology▶ 2:07:09; secured a "yes" on restoring digital trade leadership▶ 2:10:48.

• Sen. Jacky Rosen (D-NV)▶ 2:10:55: Sought commitment to fill the vacant Assistant Secretary for Tourism position▶ 2:12:27; asked Lutnick to protect solar manufacturing jobs from new tariffs▶ 2:13:49; pressed hard on whether Nevada's $16 million broadband allocation would be honored without restart, calling laws "not simply suggestions"▶ 2:14:33.

• Sen. Ted Budd (R-NC)▶ 2:16:43: Asked how the U.S. wins the AI race after DeepSeek; Lutnick called DeepSeek's development improper, alleging China "stole" and "broke in" to take U.S. IP▶ 2:17:51; raised a possible short-sale financial play tied to DeepSeek's market impact▶ 2:19:58.

• Sen. Andy Kim (D-NJ)▶ 2:21:53: Noted over 230 Cantor Fitzgerald employees from New Jersey died on 9/11▶ 2:22:06; asked about government's role in industrial policy versus market-driven approaches▶ 2:23:21; questioned prioritizing China tariffs over allies▶ 2:26:30.

• Sen. Eric Schmitt (R-MO)▶ 2:27:42: Criticized Democrats for "suddenly finding religion" on following the law, citing DEI hiring mandates tied to CHIPS grants▶ 2:28:39; discussed AI as a dual civilian/military race with China and possible "distillation" copying▶ 2:31:58.

• Sen. Lisa Blunt Rochester (D-DE)▶ 2:33:35: Cited Delaware-led bipartisan Promoting Resilient Supply Chains Act (S.257)▶ 2:33:55; asked about tariff exemptions for life-saving drugs amid 271 drug shortages▶ 2:36:08; opposed dismantling the Minority Business Development Agency (Lutnick agreed)▶ 2:37:26.

• Sen. Tim Sheehy (R-MT)▶ 2:39:32: Noted Montana's timber mills dropped from 36 to 4.5▶ 2:40:35; cited Russia producing artillery shells "eight times faster for 8% the cost"▶ 2:41:13; raised undersea mining potential▶ 2:42:21.

• Sen. Ben Ray Luján (D-NM)▶ 2:43:27: Repeatedly pressed whether Lutnick would cut broadband infrastructure funding if ordered by Trump; Lutnick said "I work for him" without a direct commitment, prompting Luján to call the exchange "disappointing"▶ 2:46:43▶ 2:48:48.

• Sen. John Curtis (R-UT)▶ 2:49:33: Discussed Utah's Silicon Slopes tech hub▶ 2:50:36 and sought help for small businesses facing tariff transitions▶ 2:53:56.

• Sen. John Hickenlooper (D-CO)▶ 2:55:16: Asked about Russia's use of crypto to evade sanctions and Tether accountability▶ 2:55:46; raised Colorado critical minerals mining and environmental double standards versus foreign extraction▶ 2:59:00.

• Sen. Cynthia Lummis (R-WY)▶ 3:02:01: Detailed how CHIPS Act DEI and labor mandates delayed TSMC's Arizona facility, pushing expansion to Japan instead▶ 3:03:44; asked Lutnick to help identify self-imposed regulatory hurdles▶ 3:05:33.

• Sen. Bernie Moreno (R-OH)▶ 3:06:37: Highlighted the $7,500 EV tax credit applying to leased European luxury EVs like the Rolls-Royce Spectre▶ 3:08:24; contrasted inflation under Trump (2017–2020) versus Biden-era stimulus▶ 3:10:58; invited Lutnick to Ohio's Columbus semiconductor facility▶ 3:10:05.

Key moments

• Lutnick testified he will divest all business interests within 90 days of confirmation under a signed agreement with the Office of Government Ethics▶ 0:44:58.

• Cantwell repeatedly pressed Lutnick on whether Cantor Fitzgerald owned Tether; Lutnick first said "no," then clarified Cantor "has a bond with Tether"▶ 0:55:21▶ 0:56:04.

• Cantwell cited analyst estimates that as much as $19 billion in Tether activity could be illicit funding by North Korea, Russia, or China; Lutnick compared blaming Tether to "blaming Apple because criminals use Apple phones"▶ 0:56:09▶ 0:57:15.

• Markey pressed Lutnick on whether Trump's OMB funding freeze memo (later withdrawn) was lawful; Lutnick said he would "rely on the president's advisers" rather than answer directly▶ 1:37:43.

• Sen. Luján asked six times whether Lutnick would cut congressionally funded broadband infrastructure if Trump ordered it; Lutnick repeatedly answered "I work for him" without directly committing either way, which Luján called "not cute"▶ 2:44:32▶ 2:46:54.

• Cruz stated for the record that the $42 billion BEAD program has connected zero households or locations, while Cantwell countered that broadband programs overall have connected over 100,000 locations and built 100 miles of lines▶ 3:14:13▶ 3:38:07.

• Lutnick called DeepSeek's AI development improper, alleging China used stolen Nvidia chips and Meta's open platform to build it "dirt cheap"▶ 1:24:34▶ 2:17:51.

• Sen. Lummis detailed how CHIPS Act DEI workforce mandates caused TSMC to face delays in Arizona and instead accelerate a competing facility in Japan▶ 3:03:44▶ 3:04:36.

• Cruz and Markey clashed on whether Lutnick must honor CHIPS Act "community impact" commitments negotiated under the Biden administration; Cruz argued companies are "not bound by extralegal agreements" imposed alongside the statute▶ 3:33:30▶ 3:39:35.

• Moreno highlighted that the Inflation Reduction Act allows a leased, fully electric Rolls-Royce Spectre to receive a $7,500 U.S. subsidy despite being a non-domestic luxury vehicle; Lutnick called it "a failed industrial policy"▶ 3:08:24▶ 3:09:21.

Metadata

CommitteeSenate Commerce, Science, and Transportation
Chamber / CongressSenate · 119th Congress
DateJanuary 29, 2025
TypeMeeting
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Transcript688 caption blocks · 28,327 words · 3:42:14 runtime
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