AIJoint hearing on American Legion legislative priorities for veterans

VA Budget and ModernizationSenate Veterans' Affairs · February 25, 2025 · 119th Congress
The House and Senate Committees on Veterans' Affairs held their annual joint hearing to receive testimony on the 119th Congress legislative priorities of the American Legion, followed by a second panel of veterans service organizations including Jewish War Veterans, Minority Veterans of America, and Wounded Warrior Project. Begins at ▶ 0:15:15
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Joint hearing on American Legion legislative priorities for veterans

Purpose

The House and Senate Committees on Veterans' Affairs held their annual joint hearing to receive testimony on the 119th Congress legislative priorities of the American Legion, followed by a second panel of veterans service organizations including Jewish War Veterans, Minority Veterans of America, and Wounded Warrior Project. Much of the questioning focused on VA workforce reductions and contract cancellations under the Trump administration, alongside long-standing priorities like electronic health records, transition assistance, and toxic exposure presumptions. Begins at▶ 0:15:15

Who spoke

• Chair Mike Bost (R-IL)▶ 0:15:15: Welcomed American Legion leadership and opened with personal family military history▶ 0:18:32; defended VA contract reviews and workforce actions as "responsible stewardship," disputing Democratic characterizations of 875 canceled contracts▶ 0:39:30▶ 0:40:25; later sparred with Rep. Takano over firings and subpoenas▶ 2:08:56.

• Chair Jerry Moran (R-KS), Senate VA Chair▶ 0:23:56: Cited support for the Dole Act, ACCESS Act, and National Guard GI Bill Parity Act▶ 0:24:55; pressed on PACT Act presumptive-condition consultation with VSOs▶ 0:58:11▶ 0:59:54; later called workforce cuts concerning, noting "almost 5000 people out of the VA service"▶ 1:35:54.

• Rep. Mark Takano (D-CA), Ranking Member▶ 0:26:07: Said VA fired an additional 1,400 employees Monday, totaling more than 2,400 in two weeks▶ 0:28:50; criticized closure of the VBA Office of Equity Assurance▶ 0:29:48 and pressed witnesses on firings of veteran employees▶ 1:01:31▶ 1:03:25.

• Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), Ranking Member▶ 0:32:20: Entered a spreadsheet of canceled VA contracts into the record▶ 0:37:11; quoted Secretary Collins telling people to disregard senators' warnings▶ 0:38:27; cited 2,400 VA firings and 6,000 veterans fired government-wide, plus $2 billion in contract cancellations▶ 0:36:11▶ 0:36:42.

• Rep. Joe Courtney (D-CT)▶ 0:42:19: Introduced Cmdr. Lacoursiere, noting he is the first Connecticut Legionnaire to be National Commander in 71 years▶ 0:42:47.

• Cmdr. James Lacoursiere, American Legion National Commander▶ 0:46:16: Outlined priorities including electronic health records completion▶ 0:50:14, TAP reform▶ 0:51:09, GI Bill parity for Guard/Reserve▶ 0:53:23, and noted Legion service officers helped veterans win $21 billion in disability claims last year▶ 0:55:23; frequently deferred detailed answers to Director Cole Lyle.

• Cole Lyle, American Legion Director▶ 0:58:47: Said VA-VSO briefings on presumptive conditions "have not been occurring on a regular basis"▶ 1:00:05; reported VHA has roughly 369,000 employees, up from about 49,000 in FY01▶ 1:54:11; said career VA officials described a "liberal exemption policy" for critical staff▶ 1:02:19▶ 1:32:45.

• Julia Mathis, American Legion▶ 1:14:50: Told Sen. Tillis the Legion does not yet have data on how firings were stratified by job type▶ 1:14:50.

• Sen. Thom Tillis (R-NC)▶ 1:13:12: Pressed for whether terminations were stratified by role (physicians, nurses, front-line staff) versus political messaging▶ 1:14:23.

• Sen. Gerald Connolly (D-VA)▶ 1:17:07: Raised loss of nursing assistants, supply technicians, and schedulers, and a lost physician-recruiting contractor▶ 1:17:31; cited concern over veterans crisis line understaffing▶ 1:18:43.

• Sen. Maggie Hassan (D-NH)▶ 1:21:20: Criticized firing of the VA Inspector General as "troubling"▶ 1:22:37; described Manchester VA Medical Center pipe bursts causing canceled procedures▶ 1:23:09.

• Rep. Aumua Amata Radewagen (R-AS)▶ 1:10:40: Described visiting nine American Legion posts across military installations▶ 1:10:59; asked about the Restore VA Accountability Act of 2025▶ 1:11:48.

• Sen. Jim Banks (R-IN)▶ 1:27:57: Asked about the National Veterans Creative Arts Festival hosted in Indianapolis▶ 1:28:47.

• Rep. Julie Fedorchak / Rep. McCormick (R)▶ 1:30:52: Said "any cut that has the potential to hurt just one veteran must be taken off the table"▶ 1:31:11; asked whether Crisis Line firings align with suicide-prevention goals▶ 1:31:56.

• Sen. Angus King (I-ME)▶ 1:35:22: Said the VA lost nearly 5,000 people counting firings and attrition▶ 1:35:54; criticized dismissing "bureaucrats" as unimportant, calling unanswered phones "a denial of benefits"▶ 1:36:27.

• Rep. (Iowa delegation member, self-identified 24-year veteran)▶ 1:39:35: Asked about returning kiosks and praised the Fox Grant program and peer-to-peer outreach▶ 1:40:07▶ 1:41:04.

• Rep. (Oregon delegation member, physician)▶ 1:44:12: Cited nearly 34,000 homeless veterans nationally, including 1,400 in Oregon▶ 1:44:41; pressed on funding the Dole Act's homelessness provisions▶ 1:45:02.

• Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-IL)▶ 1:47:29: Recounted a Vietnam pilot who died awaiting Agent Orange benefits▶ 1:47:59; said she personally intervened to reinstate two fired Veterans Crisis Line employees fired on Valentine's Day▶ 1:49:40.

• Rep. Morgan McGarvey (D-KY)▶ 1:52:17: Said VA workforce is about 369,000 with roughly 25% veterans▶ 1:53:54▶ 1:54:01; noted no impact analysis was done before layoffs and reported seven firings at a Louisville VA hospital, five of them veterans▶ 1:55:28▶ 1:55:55.

• Rep. (Minnesota delegation member)▶ 1:56:26: Cited Hennepin County achieving "functional zero" veteran homelessness▶ 1:56:57; asked about federal housing investment impact▶ 1:57:23.

• Jay Bowen, American Legion Chairman▶ 2:00:02: Explained Vet Centers' relaxed environment helps veterans open up about issues▶ 2:00:02.

• Cmdr. Gary Ginsburg, Jewish War Veterans National Commander▶ 2:20:49: Said about 1 million veterans are food insecure▶ 2:22:10; cited roughly 45,000 combat veterans awaiting Major Richard Star Act relief▶ 2:23:03; noted veterans are ~6% of the population but ~15% of suicides▶ 2:23:31.

• Lindsay Church, Minority Veterans of America▶ 2:26:02: Said thousands of VA employees, many veterans, have been "indiscriminately fired overnight"▶ 2:27:02; described a transgender veteran's suicide on January 27 in Syracuse▶ 3:01:46; said gender-based harassment/discrimination claims are up 106%▶ 3:08:00.

• Michael McLaughlin, National Association of County Veterans Service Officers▶ 2:30:24: Praised Dole Act Section 302 funding for local CVSOs▶ 2:31:25; opposed means-testing VA disability, citing his father's Tet Offensive wounds▶ 2:33:58.

• Rene Campos, Military Officers Association of America▶ 2:35:51: Urged passage of the Veteran Caregiver Reeducation, Reemployment, and Retirement Act▶ 2:36:22; said toxic-exposure presumptions have historically taken an average of 34 years to establish▶ 2:38:47.

• Tim Sheppard, National Association of State Directors of Veterans Affairs▶ 2:41:07: Said state veterans homes provide over 50% of VA long-term care across 171 homes with 30,000+ beds▶ 2:42:35; requested increasing state home construction funding from $147 million to at least $650 million▶ 2:43:14.

• Raymond Toenniessen (identified as "Mr. Sheppard" in captions), Institute for Veterans and Military Families, Syracuse University▶ 2:46:35: Said 62% of veterans remain underemployed 6.5 years after leaving the military▶ 2:48:29; noted the government spends over $13 billion annually across 46 transition programs, 27 of which release no performance data▶ 2:48:52.

• Lt. Gen. Walter Piatt, Wounded Warrior Project▶ 2:51:38: Announced 100 Wounded Warrior Project veterans will visit Congress the following week on mental health, financial wellness, and TBI▶ 2:52:38; urged passage of the Major Richard Star Act for 54,000 military retirees▶ 2:53:56.

Key moments

• Sen. Blumenthal entered into the record a partial list of 875 VA contracts worth $2 billion that Secretary Collins announced canceling, calling for full transparency▶ 0:36:11▶ 0:37:11.

• Chair Bost pushed back that the actual number of terminated contracts "is not 875," framing the reviews as standard cost-cutting practice▶ 0:40:25.

• Rep. Takano stated VA fired an additional 1,400 employees Monday, bringing two-week total firings to more than 2,400▶ 0:28:50.

• Sharp floor exchange between Chair Bost and Rep. Takano over whether to hold a dedicated hearing on the firings; Bost repeatedly said he would "take it under advisement" while Takano cited fired Cleveland VA mental-health intake clinicians and prosthetics/supply staff▶ 2:07:05.

• Cole Lyle testified career VA officials described a "very liberal exemption policy" for mission-critical staff and said career officials did not anticipate negative impacts on veteran benefits processing▶ 1:02:19▶ 1:08:35.

• Sen. Duckworth said she personally intervened after two Veterans Crisis Line employees were fired on Valentine's Day, and another supervisor was fired the following day▶ 1:49:40▶ 1:50:09.

• Rep. McGarvey reported seven employees fired at a Louisville VA hospital, five of whom were veterans, and noted no impact analysis preceded the layoffs▶ 1:55:28▶ 1:55:55.

• Lindsay Church described a transgender veteran's suicide by drowning in a parking lot in Syracuse, NY on January 27, and said her own gender-identity data was removed from VA records after being flagged for DOGE▶ 3:01:46▶ 3:02:18.

• Sen. Hassan criticized the firing of the VA Inspector General as troubling given the IG's role investigating waste, fraud and abuse▶ 1:22:37.

• Rene Campos said it takes an average of 34 years for toxic-exposure presumptions to be recognized, with only 30 exposures recognized since World War I▶ 2:38:47.

Metadata

Official titleJoint hearings with the House Committee on Veterans' Affairs to examine the legislative presentation of Disabled American Veterans and multi VSOs: AMVETS, Vietnam Veterans of America, Military Order of the Purple Heart, Blinded Veterans Association, Veterans Education Success, Gold Star Wives of America, Inc., and Reserve Organization of America.
CommitteeSenate Veterans' Affairs
Chamber / CongressSenate · 119th Congress
DateFebruary 25, 2025
TypeMeeting
Witnesses
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Transcript417 caption blocks · 22,378 words · 3:10:10 runtime
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