AIJoint hearing on American Legion legislative priorities for veterans

VA Budget and ModernizationSenate Veterans' Affairs · 2025-02-25 · 119th Congress
The House and Senate Committees on Veterans' Affairs held their annual joint hearing to receive testimony on the 119th Congress legislative priorities of the American Legion, followed by a second panel of veterans service organizations including Jewish War Veterans, Minority Veterans of America, and Wounded Warrior Project. Begins at 0:15:15
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Joint hearing on American Legion legislative priorities for veterans

Purpose

The House and Senate Committees on Veterans' Affairs held their annual joint hearing to receive testimony on the 119th Congress legislative priorities of the American Legion, followed by a second panel of veterans service organizations including Jewish War Veterans, Minority Veterans of America, and Wounded Warrior Project. Much of the questioning focused on VA workforce reductions and contract cancellations under the Trump administration, alongside long-standing priorities like electronic health records, transition assistance, and toxic exposure presumptions. Begins at0:15:15

Who spoke

Chair Mike Bost (R-IL)0:15:15: Welcomed American Legion leadership and opened with personal family military history0:18:32; defended VA contract reviews and workforce actions as "responsible stewardship," disputing Democratic characterizations of 875 canceled contracts0:39:300:40:25; later sparred with Rep. Takano over firings and subpoenas2:08:56.

Chair Jerry Moran (R-KS), Senate VA Chair0:23:56: Cited support for the Dole Act, ACCESS Act, and National Guard GI Bill Parity Act0:24:55; pressed on PACT Act presumptive-condition consultation with VSOs0:58:110:59:54; later called workforce cuts concerning, noting "almost 5000 people out of the VA service"1:35:54.

Rep. Mark Takano (D-CA), Ranking Member0:26:07: Said VA fired an additional 1,400 employees Monday, totaling more than 2,400 in two weeks0:28:50; criticized closure of the VBA Office of Equity Assurance0:29:48 and pressed witnesses on firings of veteran employees1:01:311:03:25.

Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), Ranking Member0:32:20: Entered a spreadsheet of canceled VA contracts into the record0:37:11; quoted Secretary Collins telling people to disregard senators' warnings0:38:27; cited 2,400 VA firings and 6,000 veterans fired government-wide, plus $2 billion in contract cancellations0:36:110:36:42.

Rep. Joe Courtney (D-CT)0:42:19: Introduced Cmdr. Lacoursiere, noting he is the first Connecticut Legionnaire to be National Commander in 71 years0:42:47.

Cmdr. James Lacoursiere, American Legion National Commander0:46:16: Outlined priorities including electronic health records completion0:50:14, TAP reform0:51:09, GI Bill parity for Guard/Reserve0:53:23, and noted Legion service officers helped veterans win $21 billion in disability claims last year0:55:23; frequently deferred detailed answers to Director Cole Lyle.

Cole Lyle, American Legion Director0:58:47: Said VA-VSO briefings on presumptive conditions "have not been occurring on a regular basis"1:00:05; reported VHA has roughly 369,000 employees, up from about 49,000 in FY011:54:11; said career VA officials described a "liberal exemption policy" for critical staff1:02:191:32:45.

Julia Mathis, American Legion1:14:50: Told Sen. Tillis the Legion does not yet have data on how firings were stratified by job type1:14:50.

Sen. Thom Tillis (R-NC)1:13:12: Pressed for whether terminations were stratified by role (physicians, nurses, front-line staff) versus political messaging1:14:23.

Sen. Gerald Connolly (D-VA)1:17:07: Raised loss of nursing assistants, supply technicians, and schedulers, and a lost physician-recruiting contractor1:17:31; cited concern over veterans crisis line understaffing1:18:43.

Sen. Maggie Hassan (D-NH)1:21:20: Criticized firing of the VA Inspector General as "troubling"1:22:37; described Manchester VA Medical Center pipe bursts causing canceled procedures1:23:09.

Rep. Aumua Amata Radewagen (R-AS)1:10:40: Described visiting nine American Legion posts across military installations1:10:59; asked about the Restore VA Accountability Act of 20251:11:48.

Sen. Jim Banks (R-IN)1:27:57: Asked about the National Veterans Creative Arts Festival hosted in Indianapolis1:28:47.

Rep. Julie Fedorchak / Rep. McCormick (R)1:30:52: Said "any cut that has the potential to hurt just one veteran must be taken off the table"1:31:11; asked whether Crisis Line firings align with suicide-prevention goals1:31:56.

Sen. Angus King (I-ME)1:35:22: Said the VA lost nearly 5,000 people counting firings and attrition1:35:54; criticized dismissing "bureaucrats" as unimportant, calling unanswered phones "a denial of benefits"1:36:27.

Rep. (Iowa delegation member, self-identified 24-year veteran)1:39:35: Asked about returning kiosks and praised the Fox Grant program and peer-to-peer outreach1:40:071:41:04.

Rep. (Oregon delegation member, physician)1:44:12: Cited nearly 34,000 homeless veterans nationally, including 1,400 in Oregon1:44:41; pressed on funding the Dole Act's homelessness provisions1:45:02.

Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-IL)1:47:29: Recounted a Vietnam pilot who died awaiting Agent Orange benefits1:47:59; said she personally intervened to reinstate two fired Veterans Crisis Line employees fired on Valentine's Day1:49:40.

Rep. Morgan McGarvey (D-KY)1:52:17: Said VA workforce is about 369,000 with roughly 25% veterans1:53:541:54:01; noted no impact analysis was done before layoffs and reported seven firings at a Louisville VA hospital, five of them veterans1:55:281:55:55.

Rep. (Minnesota delegation member)1:56:26: Cited Hennepin County achieving "functional zero" veteran homelessness1:56:57; asked about federal housing investment impact1:57:23.

Jay Bowen, American Legion Chairman2:00:02: Explained Vet Centers' relaxed environment helps veterans open up about issues2:00:02.

Cmdr. Gary Ginsburg, Jewish War Veterans National Commander2:20:49: Said about 1 million veterans are food insecure2:22:10; cited roughly 45,000 combat veterans awaiting Major Richard Star Act relief2:23:03; noted veterans are ~6% of the population but ~15% of suicides2:23:31.

Lindsay Church, Minority Veterans of America2:26:02: Said thousands of VA employees, many veterans, have been "indiscriminately fired overnight"2:27:02; described a transgender veteran's suicide on January 27 in Syracuse3:01:46; said gender-based harassment/discrimination claims are up 106%3:08:00.

Michael McLaughlin, National Association of County Veterans Service Officers2:30:24: Praised Dole Act Section 302 funding for local CVSOs2:31:25; opposed means-testing VA disability, citing his father's Tet Offensive wounds2:33:58.

Rene Campos, Military Officers Association of America2:35:51: Urged passage of the Veteran Caregiver Reeducation, Reemployment, and Retirement Act2:36:22; said toxic-exposure presumptions have historically taken an average of 34 years to establish2:38:47.

Tim Sheppard, National Association of State Directors of Veterans Affairs2:41:07: Said state veterans homes provide over 50% of VA long-term care across 171 homes with 30,000+ beds2:42:35; requested increasing state home construction funding from $147 million to at least $650 million2:43:14.

Raymond Toenniessen (identified as "Mr. Sheppard" in captions), Institute for Veterans and Military Families, Syracuse University2:46:35: Said 62% of veterans remain underemployed 6.5 years after leaving the military2:48:29; noted the government spends over $13 billion annually across 46 transition programs, 27 of which release no performance data2:48:52.

Lt. Gen. Walter Piatt, Wounded Warrior Project2:51:38: Announced 100 Wounded Warrior Project veterans will visit Congress the following week on mental health, financial wellness, and TBI2:52:38; urged passage of the Major Richard Star Act for 54,000 military retirees2:53:56.

Key moments

Sen. Blumenthal entered into the record a partial list of 875 VA contracts worth $2 billion that Secretary Collins announced canceling, calling for full transparency0:36:110:37:11.

Chair Bost pushed back that the actual number of terminated contracts "is not 875," framing the reviews as standard cost-cutting practice0:40:25.

Rep. Takano stated VA fired an additional 1,400 employees Monday, bringing two-week total firings to more than 2,4000:28:50.

Sharp floor exchange between Chair Bost and Rep. Takano over whether to hold a dedicated hearing on the firings; Bost repeatedly said he would "take it under advisement" while Takano cited fired Cleveland VA mental-health intake clinicians and prosthetics/supply staff2:07:05.

Cole Lyle testified career VA officials described a "very liberal exemption policy" for mission-critical staff and said career officials did not anticipate negative impacts on veteran benefits processing1:02:191:08:35.

Sen. Duckworth said she personally intervened after two Veterans Crisis Line employees were fired on Valentine's Day, and another supervisor was fired the following day1:49:401:50:09.

Rep. McGarvey reported seven employees fired at a Louisville VA hospital, five of whom were veterans, and noted no impact analysis preceded the layoffs1:55:281:55:55.

Lindsay Church described a transgender veteran's suicide by drowning in a parking lot in Syracuse, NY on January 27, and said her own gender-identity data was removed from VA records after being flagged for DOGE3:01:463:02:18.

Sen. Hassan criticized the firing of the VA Inspector General as troubling given the IG's role investigating waste, fraud and abuse1:22:37.

Rene Campos said it takes an average of 34 years for toxic-exposure presumptions to be recognized, with only 30 exposures recognized since World War I2:38:47.

Metadata

Official titleJoint hearings with the House Committee on Veterans' Affairs to examine the legislative presentation of Disabled American Veterans and multi VSOs: AMVETS, Vietnam Veterans of America, Military Order of the Purple Heart, Blinded Veterans Association, Veterans Education Success, Gold Star Wives of America, Inc., and Reserve Organization of America.
CommitteeSenate Veterans' Affairs
Chamber / CongressSenate · 119th Congress
Date2025-02-25
TypeMeeting
Witnesses
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Transcript417 caption blocks · 22,378 words · 3:10:10 runtime
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