Business meeting to consider the nomination of Linda McMahon, of Connecticut, to be Secretary of Education, and other pending calendar business

Health Care Costs and Drug PricingSenate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions · February 20, 2025 · 119th Congress
The Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee met to hold a business meeting, primarily to vote on advancing Linda McMahon's nomination to be Secretary of Education, along with other pending calendar business. Begins at ▶ 0:18:29
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Committee advances Linda McMahon's nomination for Education Secretary

Purpose

The Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee met to hold a business meeting, primarily to vote on advancing Linda McMahon's nomination to be Secretary of Education, along with other pending calendar business. Members debated the nominee's fitness and the broader question of the Department of Education's future, including proposals to shrink or dismantle it, before proceeding to a roll-call vote. Begins at▶ 0:18:29

Who spoke

• Chair Bill Cassidy (R-LA)▶ 0:18:29: Opened the meeting arguing the Department of Education has "lost its purpose" and focused on things other than student learning▶ 0:18:29, praised McMahon's business background and her past leadership of the Small Business Administration▶ 0:18:58, and said she would uphold Title IX and hold universities accountable for antisemitic harassment since October 7▶ 0:19:27. Later clashed with Sen. Sanders, citing a US drop from #1 to 34th in global education rankings as evidence current policy isn't working▶ 0:27:24, and managed the roll-call vote, announcing a final tally of 12 ayes to 11 nays▶ 0:31:37.

• Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), Ranking Member▶ 0:20:08: Said he personally likes and respects McMahon but warned power is becoming concentrated in the executive branch at the expense of separation of powers▶ 0:20:44. Argued the Department of Education provides vital resources to 26 million kids in high-poverty districts▶ 0:22:04 and nearly 10 million children in rural schools▶ 0:22:34, and announced he would vote no▶ 0:23:01.

• Sen. Andy Kim (D-NJ)▶ 0:23:36: Said the core question is whether a nominee and president committed to dismantling the Department serves kids' best interests▶ 0:23:36, and noted only about 10% of public education funding comes from the federal government▶ 0:24:48. Argued most education decisions are already made locally and that Title I and IDEA funding are essential to accessible public education▶ 0:25:38.

• Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA)▶ 0:28:48: Said he would set aside partisan attacks to focus on the nominee▶ 0:28:48, stating he finds areas of agreement with McMahon but cannot vote for someone who would "willfully engage in the destruction of the very agency she once headed," calling that disqualifying▶ 0:29:16.

Key moments

• Chair Cassidy said the Department of Education has "lost its purpose" and focuses on issues other than student learning, framing McMahon as the leader needed to refocus the agency▶ 0:18:29.

• Sanders warned the country is drifting toward "an authoritarian society" with power concentrated in the executive branch, citing recent presidential remarks about not worrying about the law "when you are trying to save the country"▶ 0:21:09.

• Sanders cited the Department's role serving 26 million kids in high-poverty school districts▶ 0:22:04 and nearly 10 million children in rural schools▶ 0:22:34 as reasons to preserve, though not defend as perfect, the agency.

• Kim said only 10% of public education funding comes from the federal government, pushing back on the narrative that Washington controls day-to-day school decisions▶ 0:24:48.

• Cassidy directly confronted Sanders, calling him a "socialist" and citing a US ranking drop from #1 to 34th globally in education as proof the current approach "is the definition of insanity"▶ 0:27:24.

• Kaine said he found areas of agreement with McMahon personally but called it disqualifying that she would "willfully engage in the destruction of the very agency she once headed"▶ 0:29:16.

• The committee proceeded to a roll-call vote, including at least one senator recorded as voting no by proxy▶ 0:30:19, with Sen. Murkowski's in-person "aye" vote awaited before the tally closed▶ 0:31:37.

• The committee reported the nomination out on a 12–11 vote, with the committee then standing adjourned▶ 0:31:37▶ 0:31:50.

Metadata

CommitteeSenate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions
Chamber / CongressSenate · 119th Congress
DateFebruary 20, 2025
TypeMeeting
Witnesses
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Transcript30 caption blocks · 1,380 words · 0:32:05 runtime
EventCongress.gov 336631