AINominations of David Perdue as Ambassador to China and Monica Crowley as Chief of Protocol

Defense Posture and Global ThreatsSenate Foreign Relations · April 3, 2025 · 119th Congress
The Senate Foreign Relations Committee met to consider two of President Trump's nominees: former Senator David Perdue (R-GA) to be U.S. Begins at ▶ 0:22:43
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Nominations of David Perdue as Ambassador to China and Monica Crowley as Chief of Protocol

Purpose

The Senate Foreign Relations Committee met to consider two of President Trump's nominees: former Senator David Perdue (R-GA) to be U.S. Ambassador to the People's Republic of China, and Dr. Monica Crowley to be Chief of Protocol with the rank of Ambassador. The committee also briefly convened as a business meeting to vote on reporting Reed Rubinstein's nomination as State Department Legal Adviser to the floor before returning to the nominations hearing. Begins at▶ 0:22:43

Who spoke

• Chair Jim Risch (R-ID)▶ 0:22:43: Opened the business meeting to report Reed Rubinstein's nomination▶ 0:22:43, gave opening remarks casting China as America's greatest long-term competitor and citing genocide against Uyghurs▶ 0:29:25, and questioned Perdue on the China-Russia "no limits partnership"▶ 0:48:51 and United Front Department influence operations▶ 0:50:57.

• Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), Ranking Member▶ 0:23:05: Opposed Rubinstein's confirmation because he would not commit to upholding the rule of law▶ 0:23:27; later warned China is filling gaps left by U.S. retreat from foreign aid and disinformation programs, citing China's $1 billion/year propaganda spending and the failure to extend the Global Engagement Center▶ 0:34:15, and pressed Crowley on the administration's approach to soft power▶ 0:59:29.

• Sen. Steve Daines (R-MT)▶ 0:18:17: Introduced Perdue, citing his role in the 2020 Phase One China trade deal and noting fentanyl killed nearly 100,000 Americans last year, driven by Chinese precursor chemicals▶ 0:21:12; later questioned Perdue on countering fentanyl trafficking and expanding U.S. agricultural access to China's $1.4 billion consumer market▶ 1:33:36▶ 1:36:31.

• Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)▶ 0:25:35: Introduced Crowley, describing her academic and media background and prior service as Assistant Secretary of the Treasury▶ 0:26:30; later questioned Perdue on Africa's debt-trap diplomacy▶ 2:05:42 and critical mineral supply chains, noting China embargoed two critical minerals when pressure increased▶ 2:09:49.

• Sen. David Perdue, nominee for Ambassador to China▶ 0:36:43: Pledged to support the one-China policy under the Taiwan Relations Act and Six Assurances▶ 0:40:55, said the U.S.-Russia-China-Iran dynamic is "untenable" and about one-third of Russia's revenue comes from China while China imports 73% of its oil▶ 0:49:42, and said cutting off trade would collapse China's economy▶ 1:31:43.

• Dr. Monica Crowley, nominee for Chief of Protocol▶ 0:42:53: Described the office's seven divisions (Blair House, ceremonial, diplomatic affairs, diplomatic partnerships, management, major events)▶ 0:54:02, and pledged to ensure the 2028 LA Olympics, FIFA World Cup, and America's 250th anniversary showcase American greatness▶ 1:49:40.

• Sen. Pete Ricketts (R-NE)▶ 1:01:03: Ran a series of yes/no questions establishing that China restricts U.S. diplomats' travel, bans U.S. apps, censors U.S. films, and forces technology transfers while facing no reciprocal restrictions from the U.S.▶ 1:02:16.

• Sen. Jerry Moran (R-KS)▶ 1:06:39: Asked how Perdue will maintain U.S. leadership in AI, biotech, and quantum computing given China's unfair trade practices, citing DeepSeek's January release as a "major wake-up call"▶ 1:07:00.

• Sen. (unclear, Tibet-focused)▶ 1:08:50: Raised China's weaponization of water resources on the Tibetan Plateau and NDAA language directing DOD to analyze related national security risks▶ 1:09:21.

• Sen. Bill Hagerty (R-TN)▶ 1:12:27: Discussed soft power requiring hard power backing, drawing on his experience as former U.S. Ambassador to Japan, then pressed Perdue on protecting U.S. diplomats after reports that staff in China were held in isolation and had stool samples taken during COVID▶ 1:16:18.

• Sen. Chris Coons (D-DE)▶ 1:19:25: Congratulated the nominees, urged Crowley to consult former Ambassador Nick Burns▶ 1:20:19, and asked whether weakening NATO and alliances strengthens or weakens the U.S. position against China▶ 1:22:54.

• Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-OR)▶ 1:38:00: Contrasted the Forced Labor Prevention Act he co-authored with Sen. Rubio against Elon Musk's Tesla factory in Xinjiang, and asked which "theme" — human-rights pressure or expanded business ties — Perdue would represent▶ 1:39:42; also criticized dismantling of Voice of America and USAID as ceding ground to China▶ 1:41:31.

• Sen. Katie Britt (R-AL)▶ 1:43:37: Asked Perdue about CK Hutchison's proposed sale of Panama Canal port facilities and China's antitrust objections▶ 1:44:07, and asked Crowley about ensuring the 2028 LA Olympics avoid the controversies of the 2024 Paris opening ceremony▶ 1:47:50.

• Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD)▶ 1:51:08: Argued that U.S. treatment of Ukraine affects how Xi Jinping views Taiwan▶ 1:51:52, pressed Perdue on whether China providing military aid to Russia should trigger sanctions▶ 1:53:22, and questioned Elon Musk's influence in the administration, citing Vivek Ramaswamy's 2023 comment calling Musk a potential "Chinese puppet"▶ 1:56:16.

Key moments

• Chair Risch opened the business meeting to move Reed Rubinstein's nomination for State Department Legal Adviser to the floor over Sen. Shaheen's objection that Rubinstein would not commit to upholding the rule of law; the motion carried on a voice/roll call vote▶ 0:22:43.

• Perdue stated China imports 73% of its oil and about 90% of Iranian oil goes to China, with proceeds flowing through Russia▶ 0:49:42▶ 0:50:12.

• In a rapid-fire exchange, Sen. Ricketts got Perdue to agree, item by item, that China's treatment of U.S. diplomats, apps, films, subsidies, and IP theft is not reciprocal▶ 1:02:16.

• Perdue disclosed the U.S. had roughly a $400 billion services/goods revenue surplus with China despite a $300 billion trade deficit, and that China failed to renew export licenses for 394 U.S. beef processing facilities, threatening 90-95% of U.S. beef exports to China▶ 1:35:37▶ 1:36:31.

• Sen. Merkley pressed Perdue on whether he would prioritize human-rights pressure (the Rubio/Merkley Forced Labor Prevention Act approach) over expanded business ties (the Musk/Tesla approach), given Tesla's Xinjiang factory was built with Chinese loans and its products are exempt from forced-labor import restrictions▶ 1:38:28.

• Sen. Hagerty had Perdue commit to immediately reporting any harassment or abuse of U.S. diplomats in China, referencing accounts of staff isolated in "moldy hotel rooms" and having stool samples taken during COVID▶ 1:16:18▶ 1:16:41.

• Sen. Van Hollen pressed Perdue on whether China supplying military equipment to Russia should trigger U.S. sanctions; Perdue agreed, noting 80% of dual-use equipment/technology in Russia comes from China▶ 1:53:53▶ 1:54:20.

• Perdue said U.S. rare-earth processing fell from roughly 80% of the world's supply in 2002 to a fraction today, and that U.S. commercial shipbuilding fell from 80% of world share two decades ago to essentially none, calling both the result of being "asleep at the wheel for 30 years"▶ 2:09:59▶ 2:10:26.

• Van Hollen and Perdue clashed sharply over Elon Musk's role in DOGE, USAID cuts, and Vivek Ramaswamy's characterization of Musk as a "Chinese puppet"; Perdue said the fired Ramaswamy comment shouldn't be over-read, while Van Hollen said Musk's "wood chipper" and "criminal enterprise" remarks about USAID implicated the committee▶ 1:54:52.

• Crowley confirmed her expanded role would include representing the administration at major international events — America's 250th anniversary, the FIFA World Cup, and the 2028 Los Angeles Olympics — and pledged to showcase "American greatness"▶ 1:49:40▶ 2:13:12.

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Official titleBusiness meeting to consider the nomination of Reed Rubinstein, of Maryland, to be Legal Adviser of the Department of State; to be immediately followed by a hearing to examine the nominations of David Perdue, of Georgia, to be Ambassador to the People's Republic of China, and Monica Crowley, of New York, to be Chief of Protocol, and to have the rank of Ambassador during her tenure of service, both of the Department of State.
CommitteeSenate Foreign Relations
Chamber / CongressSenate · 119th Congress
DateApril 3, 2025
TypeMeeting
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