AINASA Administrator and FCC Commissioner Nominations: Isaacman and Trusty

Commerce, Space, and Science NominationsSenate Commerce, Science, and Transportation · April 9, 2025 · 119th Congress
The Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation Committee held a markup followed by a confirmation hearing to consider Jared Isaacman's nomination to lead NASA and Olivia Trusty's nomination to serve as an FCC Commissioner. Begins at ▶ 0:42:06
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Title

NASA Administrator and FCC Commissioner Nominations: Isaacman and Trusty

Purpose

The Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation Committee held a markup followed by a confirmation hearing to consider Jared Isaacman's nomination to lead NASA and Olivia Trusty's nomination to serve as an FCC Commissioner. Members questioned Isaacman on Artemis, lunar and Mars priorities, budget cuts, and his ties to Elon Musk and SpaceX, and questioned Trusty on spectrum policy, universal service funding, media ownership rules, and FCC independence. The committee also conducted a markup vote on Arielle Roth's nomination to lead NTIA before turning to the hearing. Begins at▶ 0:42:06

Who spoke

• Chair Ted Cruz (R-TX)▶ 0:29:31: Opened the markup on Arielle Roth's NTIA nomination▶ 0:29:31, then opened the NASA/FCC hearing stressing China's space ambitions and the need to beat China back to the moon▶ 0:42:06; later pressed Isaacman on the statutory mandate for a sustained lunar presence▶ 1:21:05▶ 2:53:26 and secured his commitment not to deorbit the ISS before 2030▶ 2:57:47.

• Sen. Maria Cantwell (D-WA), Ranking Member▶ 0:33:30: Announced she could not support Roth's nomination over spectrum and BEAD funding concerns▶ 0:38:27; in the NASA/FCC hearing pressed Isaacman on commitments to NASA's ten centers▶ 1:26:11, DOGE-related cuts and a $420 million grant cancellation▶ 0:53:22, and closed by asking both nominees to pledge cooperation with the committee▶ 3:12:25.

• Sen. Roger Wicker (R-MS)▶ 0:38:38: Moved to report Roth's nomination favorably▶ 0:39:31; introduced Trusty, citing her nearly 20 years of telecom/national security experience▶ 0:58:15; later asked Isaacman to commit to visiting Stennis Space Center▶ 1:32:48 and asked Trusty about broadband map accuracy▶ 1:33:40.

• Mr. Jared Isaacman, NASA Administrator nominee▶ 1:07:33: Described his entrepreneurial and spaceflight background, said NASA has spent $100 billion since 1989 without returning to the moon▶ 1:10:35, pledged to pursue moon and Mars "in parallel"▶ 1:21:59, said he has had no communication with Elon Musk about NASA plans since his nomination▶ 2:03:02, and committed to following the law on ISS and lunar presence mandates▶ 2:56:20▶ 2:57:58.

• Ms. Olivia Trusty, FCC Commissioner nominee▶ 1:13:42: Pledged to expand broadband access, protect consumers from robocalls, and strengthen telecom networks▶ 1:17:29; supported restoring FCC spectrum auction authority▶ 1:55:20; said the FCC should not be weaponized against media organizations▶ 2:15:16 and would not violate the First Amendment▶ 2:47:54.

• Sen. Tim Sheehy (R-MT)▶ 1:03:31: Introduced Isaacman, citing their shared history at Space Camp and Isaacman's philanthropic and business record▶ 1:04:01.

• Sen. John Kim (D-NJ)▶ 1:37:00: Pressed Isaacman repeatedly for clarity on whether he supports a permanent human presence on the moon, saying his answers lacked definitiveness▶ 1:37:13▶ 1:39:04.

• Sen. Deb Fischer (R-NE)▶ 0:42:27: Asked Trusty about the Universal Service Fund's uncertain future amid a Supreme Court challenge▶ 1:43:10 and about FCC-DOD spectrum coordination▶ 1:44:31.

• Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN)▶ 1:48:21: Asked Trusty about USF modernization and broadband mapping accuracy▶ 1:48:44; asked Isaacman about promoting STEM education▶ 1:50:55.

• Sen. Jerry Moran (R-KS)▶ 1:53:43: Raised FCC partisanship and asked Trusty to commit to bipartisan problem-solving▶ 1:54:41; asked Trusty about restoring spectrum auction authority and BEAD/5G fund sequencing▶ 1:55:02▶ 1:57:40; asked Isaacman whether the current SLS/Orion architecture is the fastest path to beat China▶ 1:58:54.

• Sen. Gary Peters (D-MI)▶ 1:59:34: Questioned whether budget cuts would undermine parallel moon/Mars tracks▶ 1:59:56; pressed Isaacman on communications with Elon Musk and his loyalty to NASA over contractors▶ 2:02:26; asked Trusty to protect the 5.9 GHz auto-safety spectrum band▶ 2:04:13.

• Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN)▶ 2:05:43: Asked Isaacman about nuclear propulsion priorities▶ 2:06:14; asked Trusty about federal agencies' underused mid-band spectrum and spectrum-sharing▶ 2:08:19.

• Sen. Ben Ray Luján (D-NM)▶ 2:11:36: Questioned Trusty on FCC commissioner removal protections amid pending litigation▶ 2:11:58 and pressed her on whether the FCC should investigate broadcasters' editorial decisions, eliciting her "no" on weaponizing the agency▶ 2:13:59▶ 2:15:16.

• Sen. Dan Sullivan (R-AK)▶ 2:16:25: Secured Trusty's commitment to visit Alaska and work on the Alaska Connect Fund▶ 2:17:05▶ 2:17:58; asked Isaacman about promoting space missions through media and commitment to visit Kodiak's spaceport▶ 2:18:59▶ 2:21:38.

• Sen. Lisa Blunt Rochester (D-DE)▶ 2:22:38: Asked Trusty about 6G cybersecurity priorities▶ 2:25:57 and AI-generated robocall disclosure requirements▶ 2:27:25.

• Sen. Todd Young (R-IN)▶ 2:27:59: Asked Isaacman about NASA-DOD coordination on space debris and orbital traffic management, including collision risks from millimeter-sized debris at 17,500 mph▶ 2:30:37; asked Trusty about protecting undersea cable infrastructure after a 2023 Baltic Sea cable-cutting incident▶ 2:32:16.

• Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-IL)▶ 2:34:24: Pressed Isaacman on maintaining continuous human presence in low-Earth orbit and not deorbiting the ISS prematurely, referencing Elon Musk's comments▶ 2:36:13▶ 2:37:24; asked whether he would oppose an illegal order, receiving repeated "I will always follow the law" responses▶ 2:39:17▶ 2:39:35.

• Sen. Bernie Moreno (R-OH)▶ 2:39:47: Asked Trusty about using AI to combat robocall scams targeting seniors▶ 2:40:19; asked Isaacman about NASA's "for the benefit of all" motto and personal history▶ 2:41:37.

• Sen. Ed Markey (D-MA)▶ 2:45:08: Pressed Trusty on E-Rate funding and FCC investigations into broadcasters▶ 2:47:00; repeatedly pressed Isaacman on whether Elon Musk was present when Trump offered him the NASA job at Mar-a-Lago, which Isaacman did not directly confirm or deny▶ 2:48:54▶ 2:50:07; asked about restoring NASA climate data, which Isaacman said he was not aware had been removed▶ 2:51:16▶ 2:52:32.

Key moments

• Cantwell announced she could not support Arielle Roth's NTIA nomination over unresolved spectrum and $42 billion BEAD funding commitments▶ 0:38:27; the committee later voted 15-13 to report Roth favorably▶ 0:40:46.

• Cruz displayed an AI-generated poster contrasting American vs. Chinese moon landings by 2030 and pressed Isaacman to commit that China will not beat the U.S. to the moon▶ 1:20:33▶ 1:24:29.

• Cruz cited 51 U.S.C. § 20302, which he and Cantwell authored, mandating a sustained human presence in cislunar space/on the moon as a stepping stone to Mars; Isaacman acknowledged the statute but repeatedly avoided a direct commitment to a permanent lunar presence when pressed separately by Sen. Kim and Cruz▶ 1:23:19▶ 1:37:42▶ 2:54:06.

• Cantwell noted NASA confirmed DOGE-driven cancellation of $420 million in grants and that the FY2026 budget request might cut NASA science funding by half▶ 0:53:22▶ 0:53:52.

• Markey repeatedly asked whether Elon Musk was present when President Trump offered Isaacman the NASA job at Mar-a-Lago; Isaacman avoided a direct yes/no answer, saying only that he was "interviewed by the president," prompting Markey to say he could only conclude Musk was in the room▶ 2:49:39▶ 2:50:29.

• Isaacman said he has had no communications with Elon Musk about NASA plans since his nomination and stated NASA is "the customer" while contractors like SpaceX "work for us"▶ 2:03:02▶ 2:03:21.

• Duckworth asked three times whether Isaacman would oppose an illegal or unconstitutional order from President Trump; he responded each time that he did not think Trump would give one but would "always follow the law," without directly answering yes or no▶ 2:39:17▶ 2:39:35▶ 2:39:41.

• Cruz cited a classified DOD briefing in which he questioned whether the military can defend the U.S. globally given that over 50 countries have moved spectrum to commercial use, calling DOD's resistance "bureaucratic intransigence" dating to General Milley's tenure▶ 2:59:41▶ 3:00:11.

• Trusty said the FCC should not be weaponized against media organizations and stated she would not vote for any enforcement action that violates the First Amendment▶ 2:47:31▶ 2:47:54.

• Isaacman said Gateway is "a component of many programs that are over budget and behind schedule" but declined to commit to canceling it, while committing to follow the law on ISS retention through 2030▶ 2:54:55▶ 2:57:58.

• Cruz noted the FCC has lacked general spectrum auction authority for two years and the last meaningful auction was three years ago; Trusty called restoring that authority a "catalyst to investment and innovation"▶ 2:58:09▶ 2:58:57.

Metadata

Official titleHearings to examine the nominations of Jared Isaacman, of Pennsylvania, to be Administrator of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, and Olivia Trusty, of Maryland, to be a Member of the Federal Communications Commission.
CommitteeSenate Commerce, Science, and Transportation
Chamber / CongressSenate · 119th Congress
DateApril 9, 2025
TypeMeeting
Witnesses
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Videosenate-isvp
Transcript540 caption blocks · 21,565 words · 3:13:21 runtime
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