AINomination hearing for Rodney Scott as CBP Commissioner

Treasury and HHS ConfirmationsSenate Finance · 2025-04-30 · 119th Congress
The Senate Finance Committee met to consider the nomination of Rodney Scott, a former U.S. Begins at 0:23:53
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Title

Nomination hearing for Rodney Scott as CBP Commissioner

Purpose

The Senate Finance Committee met to consider the nomination of Rodney Scott, a former U.S. Border Patrol Chief, to serve as Commissioner of U.S. Customs and Border Protection. The hearing focused heavily on a contested 2010 in-custody death investigation Scott oversaw in San Diego, a 2021 Twitter exchange with a former agent, and his membership in a Border Patrol Facebook group with offensive posts, alongside broader questions on border technology, trade facilitation, and immigration enforcement policy. Begins at0:23:53

Who spoke

Chair Mike Crapo (R-ID)0:23:53: Opened the hearing praising Scott's qualifications and entered Secretary Noem's letter defending Scott's conduct in the 2010 Hernandez Rojas death-in-custody case into the record0:26:08; later read portions of that letter aloud0:34:38 and questioned Scott on his role in the case, morale, and encounter statistics0:42:50.

Ranking Member Ron Wyden (D-OR)0:27:15: Argued CBP is "practically allergic to the truth," citing an internal affairs official's claim the 2010 investigation was a "cover-up"0:30:21; raised Scott's 2021 tweet a judge called a "classic rape threat"0:31:44 and questioned him further on the subpoena's legality and unproduced documents0:47:380:59:21.

Rodney Scott, CBP Commissioner nominee0:37:19: Denied any conflicts of interest and any involvement in the Rojas death investigation0:44:18; described touching the border wall system's $28 million return on investment0:57:04; apologized for the tweet, saying he met the agent in person to apologize0:49:18; defended his Facebook group membership, saying 9,000 people belonged and only a small group posted offensive material that was investigated and disciplined0:51:34; committed to following court orders and denying he would exclude travelers for criticizing Trump1:45:311:46:18.

Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI)0:53:41: Suggested Democrats were trying to "smear" Scott to avoid discussing border security successes0:54:42; pressed on fiscal accountability for border spending as encounters drop0:55:45.

Sen. Ben Ray Luján (D-NM)1:01:08: Asked whether most fentanyl seizures occur at legal ports of entry in vehicles driven by U.S. citizens, which Scott confirmed1:01:471:02:06; pushed for 100% cargo screening and national lab partnerships1:03:121:04:36.

Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN)1:06:55: Criticized the Biden administration's halt of DNA testing on children traveling with unrelated adults, saying about 30% tested were trafficking victims1:07:50; asked Scott to commit to DNA and fingerprint tools under the PRINT Act1:08:22.

Sen. James Lankford (R-OK)1:12:37: Raised removal of drug-use polygraph questions under Biden1:13:00, GSA facility disputes1:14:35, and narco-drone incursions1:15:24.

Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA)1:18:22: Detailed alleged retaliation against whistleblowers Mark Jones, Mike Taylor, and Fred Glynn over DNA/fingerprint law noncompliance under Biden, seeking Scott's commitment to hold retaliators accountable1:18:49; also raised counterfeit-goods information sharing1:21:36.

Sen. John Barrasso (R-WY)1:23:47: Cited a 95% drop in illegal crossings in March 2025 versus 20241:24:09; asked about fentanyl detection resources1:25:27 and the Casper, WY port of entry1:26:38.

Sen. Sheldon Welch (D-VT)1:28:50: Described eight farmworkers with no criminal records arrested on a Vermont dairy farm after an anonymous tip1:29:15; raised the Haskell Free Library straddling the Canada-Vermont border1:32:39.

Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto (D-NV)1:34:20: Cited projections of a 9.4% drop in international arrivals and $22 billion in lost travel spending1:34:47; entered a letter into the record on tourism impacts1:36:43.

Sen. Raphael Warnock (D-GA)1:38:55: Pressed Scott on rescission of protections for sensitive locations like churches and hospitals, asking him to commit officers won't conduct enforcement there1:39:52; cited his support for Sen. Blumenthal's Protect Sensitive Locations Act1:43:56.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)1:44:26: Cited the removal of Kilmar Abrego Garcia and others to El Salvador despite a court order1:45:16; asked about a French scientist reportedly denied entry over texts critical of Trump1:46:05 and a family detained three days without contacting counsel1:46:57.

Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX)1:50:52: Noted only about 11% of commercial vehicles are screened by nonintrusive inspection1:52:07; raised de minimis shipment vulnerabilities under the $800 threshold1:54:54.

Sen. Thom Tillis (R-NC)1:56:59: Questioned whether a uniform 30-foot wall is the most effective approach versus a "system" of roads, sensors, and technology1:58:26; asked about Mexico deploying personnel to its own southern border2:01:20.

Sen. Steve Daines (R-MT)2:02:42: Highlighted Montana's 545-mile northern border and asked for a commitment to more northern border resources2:05:38; urged expanded port-of-entry hours to match Canadian counterparts2:09:04.

Key moments

Wyden said Scott, as CBP official in San Diego, signed a subpoena for the medical records of Anastasio Hernandez Rojas, who died after being beaten in custody in 2010, and that Border Patrol then refused to release those records to San Diego police0:30:03.

Wyden read a 2021 tweet from Scott to a former agent — "lean back, close your eyes, and enjoy the show" — which a judge called a "classic rape threat" though not evidence of institutional bias0:31:44; Scott said he personally apologized to her in a hallway with her attorney present0:50:19.

Crapo countered by reading Secretary Noem's letter, which stated seven local and federal investigatory bodies found no evidence Scott's conduct violated law, regulation, or policy, and that the DHS Inspector General found the use of force consistent with existing policy0:35:040:35:58.

Wyden pressed that Scott was one of only two senior Border Patrol officials in a Facebook group whose content led to employee removals, 43 suspensions, and 12 letters of reprimand; Scott said he never saw the posts until interviewed by the Office of Professional Responsibility0:52:490:52:03.

Scott testified that a 12-mile border wall segment in San Diego freed up 150 agents every 24 hours, yielding a $28 million return on investment0:57:041:59:58.

Warren asked Scott directly whether it would be CBP policy to deport people in violation of court orders or deny entry to travelers who criticize Trump; Scott answered "No" to both1:45:311:46:18.

Warren cited a case of two U.S. citizen children and their immigrant mother detained three days without being able to contact a lawyer or family; Scott attributed delays to prior "chaos" and said calls would happen "as quickly as is reasonably possible"1:46:571:49:43.

Warnock pressed Scott on whether CBP officers would conduct enforcement at churches, schools, or hospitals; Scott declined to give a blanket commitment, saying decisions would be case-by-case1:42:141:43:05.

Cornyn noted only about 11% of commercial vehicles crossing the border are screened via nonintrusive inspection technology1:52:07.

Blackburn said DNA testing found about 30% of children traveling with unrelated adults at the border were trafficking victims before the Biden administration halted the practice1:07:50; Scott called the halt "shocking" and pledged to restore it1:09:48.

Metadata

Official titleHearings to examine the nomination of Rodney Scott, of Oklahoma, to be Commissioner of U.S. Customs and Border Protection, Department of Homeland Security.
CommitteeSenate Finance
Chamber / CongressSenate · 119th Congress
Date2025-04-30
TypeMeeting
Witnesses
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Transcript324 caption blocks · 13,911 words · 2:11:36 runtime
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