AIBusiness meeting and nomination hearing on Energy and Interior officials

Public Lands and Energy MarkupsSenate Energy and Natural Resources · April 30, 2025 · 119th Congress
The Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee held a short business meeting to vote on nominations and legislation, immediately followed by a hearing on four nominees for senior positions at the Departments of the Interior and Energy. Begins at ▶ 0:26:47
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Business meeting and nomination hearing on Energy and Interior officials

Purpose

The Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee held a short business meeting to vote on nominations and legislation, immediately followed by a hearing on four nominees for senior positions at the Departments of the Interior and Energy. The business meeting acted on the nominations of Wells Griffith and Dr. Dario Gill for Under Secretary posts at Energy and on the bipartisan Critical Mineral Consistency Act (S.714). The subsequent hearing examined the nominations of Leslie Beyer (Assistant Secretary for Land and Minerals Management), Dr. Andrea Travnicek (Assistant Secretary for Water and Science), Ted Garrish (Assistant Secretary for Nuclear Energy), and Tristan Abbey (Administrator, Energy Information Administration). Begins at▶ 0:26:47

Who spoke

• Chmn Mike Lee (R-UT)▶ 0:26:47: Opened the business meeting, laid out the agenda of nominations and S.714▶ 0:27:17, presided over roll-call votes▶ 0:31:29, and later questioned witnesses on border-related environmental damage on federal land▶ 1:59:18, Glen Canyon Dam hydropower/ESA tradeoffs▶ 1:59:57, and the overdue EIA critical minerals outlook▶ 2:01:29.

• Sen. Martin Heinrich (D-NM), Ranking Member▶ 0:29:08: Voiced concern about administration workforce cuts and a "mass exodus" at the Energy Department, entering a related article into the record▶ 0:30:34; supported the substituted critical minerals amendment▶ 0:30:48; later pressed Beyer on public land divestment▶ 0:28:42 and questioned the Empire Wind stop-work order as a threat to permitting certainty▶ 1:32:01.

• Sen. Angus King (I-ME)▶ 1:39:27: Pressed Beyer on the "chilling effect" of revoking already-issued permits like Empire Wind▶ 1:39:53 and on public land conveyance to states▶ 1:41:29; urged Garrish to support federal financing akin to the CHIPS Act for early nuclear reactors▶ 1:42:46.

• Sen. Ron Wyden — not present in transcript (no speech attributed).

• Dr. Andrea Travnicek, nominee for Assistant Secretary for Water and Science▶ 0:59:23: Described her North Dakota background and Interior experience▶ 1:00:23; committed to prioritizing Colorado River basin negotiations▶ 1:24:09 and water infrastructure▶ 1:22:57, while declining to weigh in on the Empire Wind stop-work order since she has not been confirmed▶ 1:32:38.

• Ms. Leslie Beyer, nominee for Assistant Secretary for Land and Minerals Management▶ 1:04:36: Introduced her energy-industry and family background▶ 1:04:57; said permitting delays hurt U.S. competitiveness▶ 1:26:20; affirmed only Congress can dispose of public lands▶ 1:29:06 but said "not every acre... holds the exact same value" when asked about conveying land to states▶ 1:41:54.

• Mr. Ted Garrish, nominee for Assistant Secretary for Nuclear Energy▶ 1:09:58: Recounted his career dating to the Reagan administration▶ 1:10:35; laid out priorities including new reactor construction, domestic enrichment, and resolving nuclear waste▶ 1:13:00; told Sen. Cortez Masto he would prefer a "collaborative" rather than "consent-based" process for a waste repository▶ 1:52:54, later declining to commit on Nevada-specific legislative language▶ 1:54:37.

• Mr. Tristan Abbey, nominee for Administrator, Energy Information Administration▶ 1:18:27: Described his prior EIA/committee career▶ 1:19:27; pledged three priorities — objective data, agency revitalization, and executing existing mandates including the overdue critical minerals outlook▶ 1:20:54; told Chair Lee the mandated outlook "does not exist today" but "if confirmed, it would exist"▶ 2:02:58.

• Sen. John Hoeven (R-ND)▶ 0:48:43: Swore in the witnesses and administered the standard nominee questions▶ 0:49:08; delivered opening remarks on each nominee's portfolio▶ 0:51:02; quoted Garrish's 1983 confirmation testimony back to him on nonpartisan execution of the law▶ 0:55:08; questioned witnesses on water infrastructure, USGS oil/gas assessments, permitting timelines, and nuclear public perception▶ 0:50:48.

• Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)▶ 1:15:24: Introduced Tristan Abbey, citing his work lifting the crude oil export ban▶ 1:16:42 and entering support letters into the record▶ 1:17:06; later pressed Beyer on Alaska land conveyances and the "no more wilderness" clause in ANILCA▶ 1:46:53, and on the new five-year offshore leasing program▶ 1:48:46.

• Sen. Jim Justice (R-WV)▶ 1:33:44: Delivered an extended statement on energy urgency ("Godzilla" analogy)▶ 1:34:33; asked Travnicek about federal resources for private well water safety in rural communities▶ 1:37:08.

• Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto (D-NV)▶ 1:52:00: Pressed Garrish on Yucca Mountain, securing his agreement that Nevada does not support it as a waste repository▶ 1:52:45, and on a consent-based versus collaborative siting process▶ 1:52:54; asked Travnicek about Colorado River basin negotiation deadlines▶ 1:55:51 and release of Bipartisan Infrastructure Law/IRA hydropower turbine funding▶ 1:57:52.

• Sen. Alex Padilla (D-CA)▶ 2:06:25: Asked Beyer about domestic lithium development at California's Salton Sea▶ 2:06:50 and brine extraction methods▶ 2:08:22; pressed Travnicek on whether she had been involved in "rightsizing" reviews of national monuments, urging public comment before any boundary changes▶ 2:10:14.

• Sen. Steve Daines (R-MT)▶ 2:12:39: Asked Beyer to reconsider the BLM "Conservation and Landscape Health Rule" affecting grazing▶ 2:13:39 and to support rolling back anti-coal rules like the Miles City RMP▶ 2:15:29; raised the St. Mary River siphon failure and Montana's last unresolved tribal water compact with Travnicek▶ 2:16:56.

• Sen. John Hickenlooper (D-CO)▶ 2:18:48: Questioned Beyer on balancing BLM's multiple-use mandate with conservation▶ 2:18:48; pressed Garrish on DOE nuclear office staff reductions amid expansion goals▶ 2:20:10; asked all three Interior/Energy nominees for their personal views on large-scale public land sales for revenue▶ 2:23:14.

• Sen. Ruben Gallego (D-AZ)▶ 2:25:42: Pressed Travnicek on Bureau of Reclamation funding freezes and drought funding urgency▶ 2:26:08; raised the Navajo-Gallup/Indian water rights settlement▶ 2:26:56; asked Garrish to commit to visiting Arizona on SMR deployment including military bases▶ 2:28:03; questioned Beyer on potential rollback of Grand Canyon-area national monument protections▶ 2:29:27.

Key moments

• Heinrich entered into the record an article on a "mass exodus" of Energy Department staff, including from advanced nuclear and manufacturing offices, before voting for the nominees "with substantial reservations"▶ 0:29:39▶ 0:30:34.

• The committee voted 14 ayes to report Wells Griffith's nomination for Under Secretary of Energy despite lacking a formal quorum present in the room▶ 0:31:29▶ 0:33:11.

• The Critical Mineral Consistency Act (S.714) advanced by voice vote after adoption of a bipartisan substitute amendment negotiated between Chairman Lee and Sen. Heinrich▶ 0:34:22▶ 0:35:51.

• Sen. Heinrich confronted Beyer and Travnicek over Secretary Burgum's stop-work order halting the fully permitted, under-construction Empire Wind project off New York, warning it would "squash any faith" in federal permitting▶ 1:32:01; Travnicek declined to weigh in, noting she had not participated in the decision▶ 1:32:38.

• Garrish, asked by Cortez Masto whether he agreed Nevadans oppose Yucca Mountain as a nuclear waste site, answered simply "Yes," but resisted "consent-based" siting language in favor of a "collaborative" process▶ 1:52:45▶ 1:53:18.

• Sen. King got Garrish to agree "completely" that new nuclear technology needs a CHIPS-Act-style federal financing mechanism for the first several reactors given high costs▶ 1:43:13.

• Abbey confirmed the EIA's congressionally mandated critical minerals outlook, directed in 2021, still does not exist, pledging "if confirmed, it would exist"▶ 2:01:29▶ 2:02:58.

• Sen. Hickenlooper asked all three Interior/Energy nominees directly whether they supported large-scale sales of public land purely to raise federal revenue; each declined to give a clear opinion, citing lack of confirmation or unfamiliarity▶ 2:23:14.

• Padilla pressed Beyer on whether brining would count as an approved lithium-extraction method at California's Salton Sea; Beyer said she was not yet briefed enough to commit▶ 2:08:22▶ 2:08:42.

• Gallego asked Beyer whether she would support rolling back protections for the Grand Canyon-area national monument; Beyer said she was "not aware of any of those discussions"▶ 2:29:55▶ 2:30:28.

Metadata

Official titleBusiness meeting to consider S.714, to amend the Energy Act of 2020 to include critical materials in the definition of critical mineral, and the nominations of Preston Griffith, of Virginia, to be Under Secretary, and Dario Gil, of New York, to be Under Secretary for Science, both of the Department of Energy; to be immediately followed by hearings to examine the nominations of Leslie Beyer, of Texas, to be an Assistant Secretary, and Andrea Travnicek, of North Dakota, to be an Assistant Secretary, both of the Department of the Interior, and Theodore J. Garrish, of Maryland, to be an Assistant Secretary (Nuclear Energy), and Tristan Abbey, of Florida, to be Administrator of the Energy Information Administration, both of the Department of Energy.
CommitteeSenate Energy and Natural Resources
Chamber / CongressSenate · 119th Congress
DateApril 30, 2025
TypeMeeting
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Transcript337 caption blocks · 15,720 words · 2:31:59 runtime
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