AINominations of Dudley Hoskins and Dr. Scott Hutchins for USDA posts

Farm Economy and USDA OversightSenate Agriculture, Nutrition, and Forestry · May 21, 2025 · 119th Congress
The Senate Agriculture, Nutrition, and Forestry Committee held this hearing to consider the nominations of Dudley Hoskins to be Under Secretary for Marketing and Regulatory Programs and Dr. Begins at ▶ 0:17:15
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Nominations of Dudley Hoskins and Dr. Scott Hutchins for USDA posts

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The Senate Agriculture, Nutrition, and Forestry Committee held this hearing to consider the nominations of Dudley Hoskins to be Under Secretary for Marketing and Regulatory Programs and Dr. Scott Hutchins to be Under Secretary for Research, Education, and Economics at the U.S. Department of Agriculture. Members questioned the nominees on avian flu and screwworm response, USDA staffing cuts, agricultural research funding, and the relocation of USDA research agencies to Kansas City. Begins at▶ 0:17:15

Who spoke

• Chair John Boozman (R-AR)▶ 0:17:15: Opened the hearing citing farmers' struggles with high input costs and trade uncertainty▶ 0:17:43, introduced both nominees and their families▶ 0:25:35▶ 0:26:19, and later questioned Hoskins on APHIS's role countering unscientific foreign trade barriers▶ 0:44:11.

• Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN), Ranking Member▶ 0:20:51: Raised concerns about USDA veterinarian workforce reporting▶ 0:22:04, cited that every dollar in ag research yields $20 in economic return▶ 0:23:35, criticized the proposed $600 million cut to the National Institute of Food and Agriculture▶ 0:23:53, and pressed on the loss of 1,600 research-mission staff, including 1,200 from the Agricultural Research Service (18% of that workforce)▶ 0:49:34.

• Mr. Dudley Hoskins, nominee for Under Secretary for Marketing and Regulatory Programs▶ 0:29:07: Pledged a science-based, transparent regulatory approach▶ 0:33:11, described supporting Secretary Rollins's five-pronged avian flu plan and requiring science-based, stakeholder-consulted vaccine decisions▶ 0:46:42, and repeatedly said he could not speak to internal staffing assessments not yet being at the department▶ 0:51:27▶ 1:08:52.

• Dr. Scott Hutchins, nominee for Under Secretary for Research, Education, and Economics▶ 0:34:17: Cited a 400% rise in U.S. agricultural production over the last century with less land▶ 0:36:01, committed to an objective assessment of ARS facilities including Minnesota's two labs▶ 0:58:42, and acknowledged China as the chief agricultural-research competitor to the U.S.▶ 1:30:41.

• Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith (R-MS)▶ 0:52:01: Asked how USDA would sustain disease-response effectiveness amid avian flu losses▶ 0:52:25 and pressed on strengthening land-grant partnerships, citing Mississippi State's boll weevil eradication work▶ 0:56:01.

• Sen. Tina Smith (D-MN)▶ 0:57:42: Pressed Hutchins for a firm commitment to keep Minnesota's two ARS labs open and staffed, saying his answer didn't fully satisfy her▶ 0:58:11▶ 0:59:45; asked about USDA research orientation toward climate adaptation▶ 1:00:24.

• Sen. Roger Marshall (R-KS)▶ 1:02:28: Questioned Hoskins on pesticide/fertilizer coordination with EPA and HHS▶ 1:02:28 and pressed Hutchins on why the National Agro-Defense Facility (NBAF) remains unopened despite on-time, on-budget construction▶ 1:04:30.

• Sen. Ben Ray Luján (D-NM)▶ 1:07:41: Said USDA reduction-in-force efforts left too few animal health technicians to reopen the Columbus, NM port of entry to livestock closed for New World screwworm▶ 1:08:10, and got Hoskins to affirm career staff are "absolutely indispensable"▶ 1:11:27.

• Sen. John Hoeven (R-ND)▶ 1:13:22: Asked Hoskins to commit to fully enforcing the Packers and Stockyards Act▶ 1:13:24 and discussed expanding livestock export access▶ 1:16:00.

• Sen. John Fetterman (D-PA)▶ 1:17:53: Objected to proposed SNAP cuts▶ 1:17:53 and said the Local Food Purchase Agreement program generated $747 million in economic opportunity, including 31 organizations in Pennsylvania▶ 1:18:56.

• Sen. Jerry Moran (R-KS)▶ 1:21:45: Pressed on NBAF's $1.2 billion investment sitting non-operational▶ 1:22:03 and on whether the ERS/NIFA move to Kansas City actually relocated employees rather than remaining a "paper transfer"▶ 1:23:56; secured Hutchins's commitment to continue the July Cattle Report▶ 1:26:26.

• Sen. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI)▶ 1:28:33: Challenged Hutchins on whether $600 million in proposed research cuts is genuinely "woke or wasteful," noting China is the chief competitor nation in ag research▶ 1:28:56▶ 1:30:41; pressed Hoskins on over half of avian-flu veterinarians taking USDA buyouts▶ 1:32:37.

• Sen. Deb Fischer (R-NE)▶ 1:34:16: Sought commitment on a Nebraska ARS precision-agriculture facility co-located with the University of Nebraska-Lincoln▶ 1:35:15 and asked about efficiency in facility contracting▶ 1:38:45.

• Sen. Adam Schiff (D-CA)▶ 1:44:27: Asked both nominees about APHIS, NIFA, and ERS staffing's role in protecting California's specialty crop industry▶ 1:45:21 and about barriers to small/beginning farmer participation in commodity procurement programs▶ 1:48:03.

• Sen. Jim Justice (R-WV)▶ 1:49:31: Praised the nominees and cited that one U.S. farmer feeds 169 people▶ 1:50:30, then asked about federal steps to support elk reintroduction in West Virginia▶ 1:53:20.

• Sen. Peter Welch (D-VT)▶ 1:55:04: Asked how USDA will maintain National Organic Program support after recent staff reductions, noting Vermont has 690 USDA-certified organic farms▶ 1:55:33, and pressed for restarting the canceled Local Food for Schools program▶ 1:59:11.

Key moments

• Klobuchar highlighted President Trump's proposed FY2026 budget includes over $600 million in cuts to USDA's National Institute of Food and Agriculture▶ 0:23:53, a figure Slotkin returned to, asking Hutchins directly whether he believed $600 million of current research was "woke or wasteful"; he said he would need to see specifics▶ 1:29:20▶ 1:29:59.

• Klobuchar said administration career-employee departure programs cost 1,600 staff from the research mission area, including over 1,200 from the Agricultural Research Service — an 18% loss of ag-scientist workforce▶ 0:49:34.

• Luján said reporting indicated a lack of animal health technicians, tied to reduction-in-force efforts, kept the Columbus, NM port of entry closed to livestock in February 2025 even as another port reopened▶ 0:52:52▶ 1:08:10; Hoskins would not give a yes/no commitment to restaffing it▶ 1:08:52.

• Marshall pressed Hutchins on why the roughly $1.2 billion National Bio and Agro-Defense Facility (NBAF) remains unopened despite on-time, on-budget construction, suggesting the Plum Island facility's slow shutdown is the holdup; Hutchins said he lacked current information▶ 1:04:30▶ 1:05:11.

• Moran said the ERS/NIFA relocation to Kansas City under the prior Trump administration was, in practice, a "paper transfer" with many staff continuing to work remotely from Washington rather than relocating▶ 1:23:56; Hutchins committed to ensuring office-attendance executive orders are followed▶ 1:24:58.

• Slotkin noted over half of the veterinarians coordinating avian flu testing and research took USDA buyouts, and cited instances of USDA firing and then rehiring avian-flu staff within a week, calling the approach "sloppy"▶ 1:32:37.

• Hoskins recounted his late mentor's saying that "God may have created the earth in less than a week but he still has not figured out cattle markets"▶ 1:15:07; Justice countered that recent cattle market performance suggests otherwise▶ 1:50:59.

• Fetterman stated the Local Food Purchase Agreement Cooperative Program generated $747 million in economic opportunity for rural communities, including 31 participating organizations in Pennsylvania▶ 1:18:56.

• Hoskins confirmed career agency staff at APHIS and AMS are "absolutely indispensable" in response to Luján's question about maintaining institutional expertise▶ 1:11:27▶ 1:11:40.

• Slotkin asked Hutchins to name a country besides the U.S. investing heavily in agricultural research; he answered China, which she framed as a "zero-sum" competitive threat given intellectual property theft▶ 1:30:41▶ 1:31:08.

Metadata

Official titleHearings to examine the nominations of Dudley Hoskins, of the District of Columbia, to be Under Secretary for Marketing and Regulatory Programs, and Scott Hutchins, of Indiana, to be Under Secretary for Research, Education, and Economics, both of the Department of Agriculture.
CommitteeSenate Agriculture, Nutrition, and Forestry
Chamber / CongressSenate · 119th Congress
DateMay 21, 2025
TypeMeeting
Witnesses
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Transcript305 caption blocks · 13,753 words · 2:01:30 runtime
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