AINominations of Barrs, Morrison, and Roberti to lead DOT safety agencies

Commerce, Space, and Science NominationsSenate Commerce, Science, and Transportation · 2025-07-16 · 119th Congress
The Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation Committee met to consider three nominations within the Department of Transportation: Derek Barrs to lead the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA), Jonathan Morrison to lead the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), and Paul Roberti to lead the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration (PHMSA). Begins at 0:21:02
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Nominations of Barrs, Morrison, and Roberti to lead DOT safety agencies

Purpose

The Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation Committee met to consider three nominations within the Department of Transportation: Derek Barrs to lead the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA), Jonathan Morrison to lead the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), and Paul Roberti to lead the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration (PHMSA). Chair Cruz and Ranking Member Cantwell opened by noting declines in enforcement actions across all three agencies since January, and senators used the hearing to press nominees on truck safety fraud, autonomous vehicles, pipeline cybersecurity, vehicle affordability, and impaired driving. Begins at0:21:02

Who spoke

Chair Ted Cruz (R-TX)0:21:02: Opened the hearing introducing the three nominees and their backgrounds0:21:02; later questioned Barrs on fraudulent Mexican CDLs0:49:21 and freight fraud0:52:36; delivered an extended personal account of being hit by a car as a child to argue automakers impose a "safety tax" on society by resisting fuel-economy and crash-avoidance standards2:07:372:09:39; closed by asking Roberti to affirm pipeline safety as PHMSA's core mission2:14:34.

Sen. Maria Cantwell (D-WA), Ranking Member0:24:40: Said FMCSA has closed 78% fewer cases this year than last0:25:56; noted PHMSA opened the fewest pipeline enforcement cases in six months of any point in two decades0:27:07; cited NHTSA opening 25% fewer vehicle-safety investigations this year0:28:07; pressed on FAA-style Organization Designation Authorization (ODA) retaliation protections for pipeline inspectors0:56:04.

Sen. Rick Scott (R-FL)0:29:17: Introduced Derek Barrs, describing his 30-year Florida law-enforcement career and the Troopers and Truck Drivers initiative he created0:30:27.

Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI)0:31:32: Introduced Paul Roberti, criticizing the administration for not finalizing a bipartisan gas-leak repair rule and for withdrawing a draft CO2 pipeline safety rule0:32:310:33:02.

Derek Barrs, FMCSA nominee0:33:55: Cited 5,000 lives lost in large truck and bus crashes in 2023 and pledged roadway safety as his top priority0:36:07; committed to working with Texas DPS on fraudulent Mexican CDLs0:50:19 and on freight fraud0:53:24; supported English-language requirements for commercial drivers1:03:53.

Jonathan Morrison, NHTSA nominee0:38:34: Said 6 million crashes and roughly 40,000 fatalities occur annually, with about half of those killed not wearing seatbelts0:40:410:41:06; noted the U.S. vehicle fleet now averages 13 years old, with 12–15 year-old vehicles carrying a 19% higher crash-fatality risk than newer ones0:42:011:14:32; agreed government was right to mandate seatbelts and (eventually) airbags1:32:291:32:55; committed to advancing the HALT Act's impaired-driving detection rulemaking1:22:31.

Paul Roberti, PHMSA nominee0:43:51: Said he processed 800 enforcement cases during his prior stint as chief counsel0:50:58; committed to finalizing the 2023 draft pipeline safety rule Sen. Markey raised1:35:20; said critical safety inspection/enforcement staff are not subject to workforce reductions1:35:50; committed to visiting the Bucks County, PA pipeline leak site with Sen. Fetterman1:41:16.

Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN)1:02:54: Raised English-language CDL requirements1:03:24 and pressed Morrison on setting national autonomous-vehicle standards ahead of China1:05:49; cited the She Drives Act finding women are 75% more likely to be injured and 17% more likely to die in crashes due to male-only crash-test dummies1:06:56; noted a 2022 GAO report found NHTSA missed 17 of 22 mandated rulemaking deadlines1:08:03.

Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN)1:08:39: Discussed distracted-driving fatalities, noting NHTSA's count is likely undercounted absent a "distraction test"1:09:02; raised catalytic converter theft and the bipartisan PART Act with Sen. Moreno1:10:16; cited cargo theft testimony from a Judiciary Committee hearing, including a dairy company reporting one to three break-ins per month1:12:38.

Sen. Bernie Moreno (R-OH)1:13:37: Argued Biden-era CAFE standards raising fuel economy from 39 to 50 mpg in two years were unrealistic and drove up costs1:15:26; said automakers paid nearly $3 billion in CAFE credit fines last year, passed to consumers1:16:32; said average car prices rose $8,000 (~20%) under the Biden administration1:17:14; argued lower-cost cars and safety are not a false choice1:54:17.

Sen. Ben Ray Luján (D-NM)1:19:16: Disclosed he personally survived a head-on collision with a drunk driver1:19:48; pressed for finalizing the HALT Act's impaired-driving detection rule1:21:40; asked Morrison to include pedestrian and cyclist deaths in cost-benefit analysis of truck side underride guard rules1:23:32; cited truck crash fatalities up 60% nationwide since 2009, with 5,500 lives lost last year1:23:54.

Sen. Gary Peters (D-MI)1:25:45: Asked Morrison to commit to fully staffing NHTSA's Office of Automation Safety amid reported cuts of over half its staff1:27:24; raised concerns about China's investment in autonomous vehicle technology threatening U.S. leadership1:29:48.

Sen. Ed Markey (D-MA)1:31:36: Cited historical industry opposition to seatbelts (1961) and airbags (1975), and current opposition to automatic emergency braking rules, arguing regulators should be skeptical of industry cost arguments1:32:061:33:17; asked Roberti whether he would resist DOGE-directed cuts to pipeline inspection staff1:35:23.

Sen. John Fetterman (D-PA)1:37:10: Raised a jet-fuel pipeline leak in Bucks County, PA that contaminated a constituent's well water, introducing constituent Christine who brought a contaminated water sample1:38:451:39:16; offered to support Roberti's confirmation in exchange for a commitment to work on the issue1:40:40.

Sen. Todd Young (R-IN)1:42:17: Pressed Morrison on first priorities for autonomous vehicle rulemaking1:44:09; asked Barrs about allowing electronic alternatives to manually placed roadside warning triangles for safety1:47:46.

Sen. Jacky Rosen (D-NV)1:48:42: Cited a nationwide shortage of roughly 40,000 truck parking spaces, particularly along I-15 and I-80 in Nevada1:49:09; cited Nevada traffic deaths of 386 (2023) and 416 (2022), with fatal crashes up nearly 40% in early 20241:50:451:51:16.

Sen. John Hickenlooper (D-CO)2:00:17: Cited nearly 40,000 U.S. traffic fatalities last year, 12,429 involving alcohol impairment (30% of the total)2:00:17; noted no uniform national marijuana impairment standard exists, contrasting Colorado's 5-nanogram THC threshold with other states' zero-tolerance laws2:00:52; asked Roberti about the cyber information-sharing authority set to expire September 30, 20252:04:04.

Key moments

Cantwell said FMCSA has closed 78% fewer cases this year than last, and NHTSA opened 25% fewer vehicle-safety investigations, calling both trends a serious safety concern0:25:560:28:07.

Whitehouse said DOT failed to finalize a bipartisan, industry-consensus gas-leak repair rule signed by President Trump, and withdrew a bipartisan draft CO2 pipeline safety rule0:32:310:33:02.

Markey walked through historical industry opposition to seatbelts (1961) and airbags (1975) to argue against deference to automakers' cost objections to today's automatic emergency braking rule; Morrison agreed government was right to mandate both technologies1:32:061:32:55.

Moreno directly disputed Markey's seatbelt history, saying the three-point belt cited was only two years old in 1961 and that costs later fell with mass production; he argued Biden-era CAFE targets rising from 39 to 50 mpg in two years were not achievable, versus 35 to 39 mpg over the prior decade1:15:261:56:05.

Fetterman offered to vote for Roberti's confirmation in exchange for a commitment to address a jet-fuel pipeline leak that contaminated a Bucks County, PA constituent's well water; Roberti confirmed a Notice of Proposed Safety Order had been issued and committed to visiting the site if confirmed1:38:451:41:161:40:40.

Markey asked Roberti whether he would comply if DOGE directed cuts to pipeline inspection/enforcement staff; Roberti said critical safety inspection and enforcement positions are not part of any workforce reductions1:35:231:35:50.

Cruz recounted being struck by a car as a child, arguing automakers impose a "safety tax" on society through injuries and pollution when they resist fuel-economy and crash-avoidance mandates2:07:372:09:39.

Roberti cited the Colonial Pipeline shutdown, noting it supplied 45% of the Northeast's fuel, to argue for stronger federal cybersecurity information-sharing ahead of a September 30, 2025 authority expiration2:05:152:04:33.

Morrison said the U.S. vehicle fleet now averages 13 model years old, and cited a study finding a 19% higher fatality risk in 12–15 year-old vehicles versus 0–6 year-old vehicles0:42:011:14:32.

Hickenlooper noted 12,429 of roughly 40,000 U.S. traffic deaths last year involved alcohol impairment, and pressed for a national marijuana impairment standard given inconsistent state THC thresholds2:00:172:00:52.

Blackburn cited a 2022 GAO report finding NHTSA missed 17 of 22 legally mandated rulemaking deadlines1:08:03.

Metadata

Official titleHearings to examine the nominations of Derek Barrs, of Florida, to be Administrator of the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration, and Jonathan Morrison, of California, to be Administrator of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, and Paul Roberti, of Rhode Island, to be Administrator of the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration, both of the Department of Transportation.
CommitteeSenate Commerce, Science, and Transportation
Chamber / CongressSenate · 119th Congress
Date2025-07-16
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