AINomination hearing for Admiral Daryl Caudle to lead Navy as CNO

Defense Posture and Global ThreatsSenate Armed Services · 2025-07-24 · 119th Congress
The Senate Armed Services Committee convened this hearing to consider the nomination of Admiral Daryl L. Begins at 0:15:41
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Nomination hearing for Admiral Daryl Caudle to lead Navy as CNO

Purpose

The Senate Armed Services Committee convened this hearing to consider the nomination of Admiral Daryl L. Caudle, USN, for reappointment to the grade of admiral and to be Chief of Naval Operations, following Adm. Lisa Franchetti's dismissal by President Trump in February and a five-month vacancy0:20:46. Members questioned Caudle on shipbuilding delays, submarine maintenance, munitions production, spectrum policy, and quality-of-life issues affecting sailors and shipyards. Begins at0:15:41

Who spoke

Chair Roger Wicker (R-MS)0:15:41: Opened by citing $18 billion for shipbuilding, $5 billion for unmanned systems, and other reconciliation funding0:18:48; later pressed Caudle on standard nominee questions0:30:41 and on Virginia-class submarine production needed to meet AUKUS commitments1:06:48.

Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI), Ranking Member0:20:16: Noted the five-month gap since Franchetti's dismissal and questioned whether the administration is undermining naval leadership0:21:12; cited destroyers, frigates, and submarines behind schedule, some by over a year0:22:12; later pressed on amphibious ship requirements and contested logistics in the Pacific1:15:441:18:15.

Adm. Daryl Caudle, nominee for Chief of Naval Operations0:24:09: Pledged to give the president candid military advice even when unwelcome0:40:55; said his master's thesis was on directed-energy/high-powered lasers and pledged to prioritize the technology0:43:55; called the multi-year-delayed USS Boise repair "like a dagger in my heart"1:26:17; committed to a "right to repair" push so sailors can fix their own equipment1:39:341:42:10.

Sen. Deb Fischer (R-NE)0:46:47: Asked about the roughly 17-month delay in the Columbia-class submarine program0:46:47 and how the new, smaller nuclear force structure (12 subs/16 tubes vs. prior 14/24) will be managed with STRATCOM0:48:45.

Sen. Mazie Hirono (D-HI)0:50:16: Asked her standard sexual-misconduct screening questions0:50:16; raised the Pearl Harbor drydock project's $834 million cost overrun and four-month schedule slip0:50:48, and Red Hill fuel spill remediation affecting over 90,000 residents0:52:31.

Sen. Rick Scott (R-FL)0:55:58: Cited a destroyer commissioned in October 2023 that can't deploy until 2028 due to untested radar0:56:47; pressed on accountability for program managers and sole-source suppliers0:57:43.

Sen. Angus King (I-ME)0:41:04: Pushed for a durable 30-year shipbuilding plan to give industry a demand signal0:41:32; asked about ship maintenance availability rates, noting the Navy runs at 50–60%0:42:40; advocated for directed-energy investment0:43:30.

Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA)0:38:19: Praised the Navy's Red Sea/Houthi performance0:38:37; discussed sailor suicide-prevention work with Caudle in Hampton Roads1:00:38; raised a $2 billion Virginia-class budgeting shortfall and pressed for timely delivery of the 30-year shipbuilding plan1:04:39.

Sen. Ted Budd (R-NC)1:08:26: Asked about investment in unmanned aerial, surface, and underwater systems1:08:56 and defense against drone threats to installations, citing UAV sightings near Langley1:10:35.

Sen. Mike Rounds (R-SD)1:21:19: Pressed on the cost (cited as ~$250 billion) and risk of vacating the 3.1–3.45 GHz spectrum band needed for Navy weapons and communications systems1:21:38; raised the decade-long-idle USS Boise submarine1:25:55.

Sen. Gary Peters (D-MI)1:27:49: Highlighted Michigan workers building 40% of Constellation-class frigates1:28:19 and asked how Caudle would tap nationwide manufacturing talent for submarine production1:30:55.

Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR)1:33:13: Pressed on the "munitions crisis" and need for an all-of-the-above production approach1:33:35; asked about ship maintenance backlogs and China as the primary long-term threat1:35:061:36:34.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)1:38:19: Cited Secretary Phelan's testimony that sailors on the USS Gerald R. Ford couldn't fix ovens or elevators themselves1:38:43 and GAO findings that repair restrictions cost the Navy billions1:38:43; noted Franchetti was the first woman CNO, removed without explanation1:43:18.

Sen. Dan Sullivan (R-AK)1:43:46: Pressed on the legal 31-amphibious-ship requirement and tightening the "temporarily unavailable" loophole1:44:33; cited a CRS report on the Navy's worst shipbuilding crisis in nearly 50 years and China's 400-plus-ship fleet1:48:14.

Sen. Mark Kelly (D-AZ)1:50:37: Noted China built about 1,200 commercial ships versus six for the U.S. in the same period1:51:26; discussed his Ships for America Act and mariner crewing shortages1:52:14.

Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-AL)1:56:03: Raised a shortage of 500,000 electricians nationally and the need to lean on allies (citing Korea building five ships to the U.S.'s one)1:56:03; asked about Alabama-built unmanned vessels1:57:28.

Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH)1:59:05: Pressed on hiring delays at Portsmouth Naval Shipyard despite its exemption from reduction-in-force rules1:59:35; asked how competing SIOP infrastructure funding priorities across the four public shipyards would be balanced2:01:34.

Sen. Jim Banks (R-IN)2:04:41: Highlighted the Crane Naval Surface Warfare Center in Indiana2:05:10 and asked how AI could speed shipbuilding, referencing $450 million for AI-enabled shipbuilding in the reconciliation bill2:07:45.

Sen. Jacky Rosen (D-NV)2:09:28: Raised inadequate compensation offers to ranchers on the B-16 range near Naval Air Station Fallon2:11:11 and housing/infrastructure shortfalls, including a public-private 172-home project and wastewater treatment needs2:13:22.

Key moments

Wicker detailed reconciliation funding: $18 billion for shipbuilding, $5 billion for unmanned systems, $5 billion for the maritime industrial base, $5 billion for munitions, and $10 billion for ship spare parts0:18:48.

Caudle admitted the Navy has "too many sole-source vendors" and it currently takes more than a year to build a single SM-6 missile0:45:52.

Fischer and Caudle discussed the Columbia-class delay of roughly 17–18 months and the shrinking ballistic-missile-submarine force structure (from 14 ships/24 tubes down to 12 ships/16 tubes)0:47:060:48:45.

Hirono cited a $4.5 billion Pearl Harbor drydock project with an $834 million cost overrun in the last year and a four-month schedule slip0:50:48.

Scott highlighted a destroyer commissioned in October 2023 that cannot deploy until 2028 because its radar wasn't tested before commissioning0:56:47.

Rounds said over 30 senior DoD officials warned that vacating the 3.1–3.45 GHz spectrum band would cost roughly $250 billion; Caudle said he "would have given you infinity" given the band's centrality to weapons and communications systems1:21:381:22:29.

Kaine noted a Pentagon budgeting assumption on Virginia-class submarines was off by $2 billion, requiring a partial fix1:04:39.

Caudle called the decade-idle USS Boise submarine repair delay "like a dagger in my heart," tracing it to the Navy's earlier abandonment of private in-service repair capacity1:26:17.

Warren cited Secretary Phelan's testimony that Gerald R. Ford sailors couldn't fix ovens or elevators themselves, and GAO estimates that repair restrictions cost the Navy billions; Caudle said "there should be nothing on board a ship that a sailor cannot repair"1:38:431:42:10.

Kelly said China built about 1,200 commercial ships between 2020 and today versus six built by the U.S. in the same period, underscoring a wartime sealift gap1:51:26.

Metadata

Official titleHearings to examine the nomination of Admiral Daryl L. Caudle, USN, for reappointment to the grade of admiral and to be Chief of Naval Operations, Department of Defense.
CommitteeSenate Armed Services
Chamber / CongressSenate · 119th Congress
Date2025-07-24
TypeMeeting
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Transcript345 caption blocks · 16,584 words · 2:15:23 runtime
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