AISenate Commerce confirmation hearing for NTSB, OSTP, and Commerce nominees

Commerce, Space, and Science NominationsSenate Commerce, Science, and Transportation · September 17, 2025 · 119th Congress
The Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation Committee held a nomination hearing for three presidential nominees: Michael Graham, renominated to the National Transportation Safety Board; Dr. Begins at ▶ 0:30:30
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Senate Commerce confirmation hearing for NTSB, OSTP, and Commerce nominees

Purpose

The Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation Committee held a nomination hearing for three presidential nominees: Michael Graham, renominated to the National Transportation Safety Board; Dr. Ethan Klein, nominated as Associate Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy and U.S. Chief Technology Officer; and Joyce Meyer, nominated as Under Secretary of Commerce for Economic Affairs, overseeing the Bureau of Economic Analysis and Census Bureau. Members questioned the nominees on aviation safety technology, AI and quantum policy, drone manufacturing, and the integrity of federal economic and census data. Begins at▶ 0:30:30

Who spoke

• Chair Ted Cruz (R-TX)▶ 0:30:30: Opened the hearing and introduced all three nominees and their backgrounds▶ 0:30:54; later questioned Graham on ADS-B technology and his ROTOR Act▶ 0:51:23, and pressed Klein on how AI standards were implemented under the Biden administration▶ 0:55:18.

• Sen. Maria Cantwell (D-WA), Ranking Member▶ 0:33:48: Noted the NTSB made 34 recommendations after the East Palestine derailment, most still open▶ 0:34:18, and cited the January DCA midair collision that killed 67 people▶ 0:34:48; pressed Graham on why ADS-B in/out has not been implemented despite long-standing recommendations▶ 0:57:56 and said she disagreed with the firing of Vice Chair Alvin Brown▶ 1:02:20; raised National Quantum Initiative Reauthorization with Klein▶ 1:02:20.

• Michael Graham, NTSB nominee▶ 0:37:52: Described his "expect the unexpected" safety philosophy▶ 0:39:17; said ADS-B technology has "incredible safety potential" and personally believes the flying public would be safer if ADS-B in/out were required▶ 0:52:43▶ 0:55:13; declined to discuss ADS-B's role in the DCA crash investigation specifically▶ 0:53:14▶ 1:01:25; confirmed NTSB does not endorse legislation but supports many ROTOR Act recommendations▶ 0:54:39.

• Dr. Ethan Klein, OSTP nominee▶ 0:41:33: Said winning the AI race with China will determine whose "AI stack" the world adopts, with implications for national security▶ 1:04:49▶ 1:05:19; called American energy production critical to winning the AI race▶ 1:06:29; discussed the National Quantum Initiative and drone industrial base policy, including procurement preferences and standards-setting▶ 1:02:42▶ 1:15:01.

• Joyce Meyer, Commerce nominee▶ 0:46:24: Outlined three goals for BEA and Census — data integrity/accuracy, faster data delivery via technology, and efficiency▶ 0:50:10; on the BLS jobs revision of nearly one million fewer jobs, noted BLS sits at the Department of Labor, outside her prospective purview▶ 1:10:03; repeatedly declined to state an opinion on whether Congress must authorize any new census excluding non-citizens, saying she is "not in the role"▶ 1:21:17▶ 1:22:04.

• Sen. Dan Sullivan (R-AK)▶ 1:04:10: Asked Klein about the importance of winning the AI race and American energy production▶ 1:04:38▶ 1:06:11; asked Graham to commit to working on Alaska aviation safety issues given the state's high crash rates▶ 1:08:08; pressed Meyer on the nearly one-million-job downward BLS revision▶ 1:09:25.

• Sen. Todd Young (R-IN)▶ 1:11:30: Discussed his National Quantum Initiative Reauthorization Act with Klein and asked why congressional action is needed▶ 1:12:24▶ 1:13:50; questioned Klein on obstacles to U.S. drone manufacturing and deployment▶ 1:14:40.

• Sen. Gary Peters (D-MI)▶ 1:17:01: Raised concerns about Census Bureau preparation for the 2026 test run ahead of the 2030 count, noting hiring has not yet begun▶ 1:17:48; asked Meyer to commit to prioritizing 2026 census preparation▶ 1:18:10; pressed her on whether the President can unilaterally conduct a new census excluding non-citizens without congressional authorization, which she declined to answer directly▶ 1:20:41▶ 1:21:57.

• Sen. Bernie Moreno (R-OH)▶ 1:24:09: Asked Klein how AI development can benefit rather than eliminate American workers▶ 1:22:48; raised concerns about AI companies restricting government/law enforcement use of their tools▶ 1:24:38; asked Klein where the real applications of AI are today▶ 1:26:05; had an exchange with Klein on whether "science is fact"▶ 1:26:57; asked Graham to clarify that NTSB is not a regulator▶ 1:27:49; concluded by asking all three nominees to pledge timely responses to the committee▶ 1:31:03.

Key moments

• Cantwell said the NTSB made 34 recommendations after the East Palestine derailment, with most still open more than a year later▶ 0:34:18, and noted near-miss incidents between aircraft and helicopters were dismissed by the FAA before the fatal January DCA collision that killed 67 people▶ 0:34:48.

• Graham confirmed his personal opinion that the flying public would be safer if ADS-B in/out transmission were required for all aircraft, while declining to link this to the DCA crash investigation specifically▶ 0:54:39▶ 0:55:13▶ 1:01:25.

• Sharp exchange between Cantwell and Graham: Cantwell said an FAA official had to be publicly called out at a hearing before implementing the ADS-B recommendation, and pressed for a "more aggressive NTSB" on FAA non-implementation▶ 0:59:52▶ 1:00:50; Graham compared the 20-year delay to the 50-year fight for positive train control▶ 0:59:24.

• Cantwell noted Graham was renominated one month after President Trump fired NTSB Vice Chair Alvin Brown, calling it part of a series of "illegal firings"; Cantwell later said she disagreed with the firing, while Graham said board members "serve at the pleasure of the President" and had little interaction with Brown▶ 0:35:19▶ 1:01:49▶ 1:02:07.

• Sullivan cited a Bureau of Labor Statistics revision of almost one million fewer jobs between April 2024 and March 2025, calling it the largest downward revision in nearly a quarter century; Meyer noted BLS sits at the Department of Labor, outside the role she is nominated for▶ 1:09:25▶ 1:10:03.

• Peters said no law permits the President to unilaterally conduct a new census excluding non-citizens between decennial counts and that any change would require amending the Census Act with congressional approval; Meyer repeatedly declined to answer whether she agreed, citing that she is "not in the role"▶ 1:20:41▶ 1:21:07▶ 1:22:04.

• Peters raised concern that the Census Bureau has not yet begun hiring for the 2026 test run ahead of the 2030 census and has refused to provide status updates to his office▶ 1:17:48.

• Cruz and Cantwell both stated support for requiring ADS-B in/out, with Cantwell noting "Senator Cruz and I disagree... we wanted it implemented... too long" in a rare bipartisan agreement moment▶ 1:00:50.

• Klein said the drone industrial base could be strengthened through federal procurement preferences for secure U.S.-made drones, supply chain investment, and standards-setting▶ 1:15:01.

• Moreno and Klein debated whether "science is fact," with Klein calling science "a process of understanding to the best of our abilities" and Moreno arguing science is an evolving process rather than fixed conclusions▶ 1:26:57▶ 1:27:19.

Metadata

Official titleBusiness meeting to consider the nomination of Neil Jacobs, of North Carolina, to be Under Secretary of Commerce for Oceans and Atmosphere; to be immediately followed by hearings to examine the nominations of Michael Graham, of Virginia, to be a Member of the National Transportation Safety Board, Ethan Klein, of New Jersey, to be an Associate Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy, and Joyce Meyer, of Virginia, to be Under Secretary of Commerce for Economic Affairs.
CommitteeSenate Commerce, Science, and Transportation
Chamber / CongressSenate · 119th Congress
DateSeptember 17, 2025
TypeMeeting
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