AINomination hearing for General Kenneth Wilsbach, Air Force Chief of Staff

Defense Posture and Global ThreatsSenate Armed Services · 2025-10-09 · 119th Congress
The Senate Armed Services Committee convened to consider the nomination of General Kenneth S. Begins at 0:26:48
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Title

Nomination hearing for General Kenneth Wilsbach, Air Force Chief of Staff

Purpose

The Senate Armed Services Committee convened to consider the nomination of General Kenneth S. Wilsbach, USAF, for reappointment to the grade of general and to serve as Chief of Staff of the Air Force. Chair Wicker and Ranking Member Reed opened with concerns about aircraft readiness, nuclear modernization, and pilot retention, after which General Wilsbach answered standard nominee questions and gave an opening statement before extended member questioning. Begins at0:26:48

Who spoke

Chair Roger Wicker (R-MS)0:26:48: Opened by praising the Air Force's performance in Operation Midnight Hammer0:27:16 and pressed concerns about declining aircraft mission-capable rates for the F-22, F-35, and KC-460:41:57, proposed JROTC funding cuts of roughly $75 million0:44:02, and later questioned Wilsbach on ISR gaps affecting Grand Forks' RQ-4 fleet2:08:44.

Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI), Ranking Member0:31:15: Welcomed Wilsbach and asked about agile combat employment and contested logistics concepts0:47:01, F-35 sustainment costs of about $39,000 per flight hour0:49:11, and force-structure reductions affecting the U-20:50:43.

Gen. Kenneth Wilsbach0:35:19: Committed to standard nominee assurances0:35:19 and gave an opening statement describing his career and family0:36:37; testified that weapons-system sustainment accounts are underfunded, causing parts shortages that ground aircraft0:42:42, and that fighter pilots fly only about 2.5 sorties a week versus a needed minimum of three1:04:24.

Sen. Deb Fischer (R-NE)0:52:18: Pressed on B-21 bomber fleet sizing, noting STRATCOM's recommendation of at least 145 aircraft against the current 100-aircraft program of record0:53:45, and secured commitments on Sentinel and Minuteman sustainment0:55:50.

Sen. Mazie Hirono (D-HI)0:58:00: Asked standard nominee conduct questions0:58:00, had Wilsbach affirm China remains the most significant threat0:59:24, and questioned the E-7 Wedgetail's initial funding cancellation before Congress restored it1:01:59.

Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR)1:03:22: Focused on the "readiness crisis," eliciting that roughly half the fleet is available on a given day and today's pilots train less than Wilsbach did as a lieutenant1:03:52; secured a commitment to keep resourcing Fort Smith's F-35 training mission1:07:46.

Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA)1:08:02: Asked about countering drone threats after Ukraine's Operation Spiderweb and the 2023 Langley AFB incident1:08:20, noting inadequate current defensive systems1:09:20 and unresolved interagency authorities1:11:12.

Sen. Mike Rounds (R-SD)1:13:36: Focused on protecting military spectrum bands (3.1–3.45 GHz and 7.4–8.4 GHz), citing a Navy estimate of $250 billion and 20 years to relocate radar systems1:15:25, and pressed Wilsbach to stand up to non-uniformed officials on the issue1:16:59.

Sen. Angus King (I-ME)1:19:15: Urged the Air Force to buy intellectual property rights for 3D-printed parts1:19:44 and cited Ukraine producing 200,000 drones a month at roughly $500 each as a model for drone-warfare investment1:21:18.

Sen. Joni Ernst (R-IA)1:25:05: Pressed for full funding of the Sioux City Air National Guard runway project, noting a recent Record of Decision was completed in August 20251:26:46, and asked about the path to a clean financial audit1:29:16.

Sen. Mark Kelly (D-AZ)1:30:44: Drawing on a recent Ukraine visit, raised the cost mismatch between cheap drones (~$50,000) and expensive AMRAAM intercepts (up to $1 million)1:31:45, and sought expanded F-16 pilot training slots for Ukraine at Tucson1:32:14.

Sen. Rick Scott (R-FL)1:36:02: Discussed Homestead Air Force Base's strategic value1:36:29 and pressed on U.S. dependence on China for computers and generic drugs, citing 80% of drug ingredients coming from China and India1:37:56.

Sen. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI)1:39:28: Sought commitment on the FY28 arrival of F-15s and a KC-46 squadron at Selfridge ANGB1:39:28, pressed on whether the tanker count could shrink from 121:42:41, and asked how Wilsbach would respond to orders to deploy Air Force assets domestically, prompting his answer that he verifies legality with counsel before executing any order1:44:26.

Sen. Dan Sullivan (R-AK)1:45:37: Invoked Billy Mitchell's description of Alaska as the world's most strategic location1:46:31, criticized the allocation of tankers to Michigan over Alaska1:47:14, and pressed for four KC-135s long promised to Alaska1:48:07 and continued infrastructure/rescue-squadron support1:50:12.

Sen. Gary Peters (D-MI) [2:11:54 listed as Sen. Banks below; Peters at 1:52:20]: Defended Michigan's KC-46 and F-15EX basing decisions1:52:12, asked about Selfridge infrastructure and personnel training1:53:10, and questioned plans for fielding Collaborative Combat Aircraft with the Air National Guard1:55:48.

Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-AL)1:57:10: Asked about KC-46 boom-system issues and Indo-Pacific refueling range1:57:39, raised base housing complaints affecting recruiting1:58:35, and asked about addressing "woke" issues at the Air Force Academy2:00:42.

Sen. Ted Budd (R-NC)2:02:07: Asked about the future of the F-15 Strike Eagle community at Seymour Johnson AFB2:02:37 and F-15EX procurement, noting the program is at about 120 aircraft2:04:25, and discussed pilot retention drivers including sortie rates and PCS frequency2:05:38.

Sen. Jim Banks (R-IN)2:11:46: Cited President Trump's Michigan remarks on investing in the Air National Guard2:11:46, raised modernization gaps at the 122nd Fighter Wing in Fort Wayne2:13:17, and asked Wilsbach to affirm support for merit-based promotion over prior DEI-related quotas2:14:11.

Key moments

Wilsbach testified about half of Air Force aircraft are available on a given day, leaving pilots under-trained, and that his last command set a minimum of three sorties a week versus roughly 2.5 today1:03:521:04:24.

Sen. Fischer highlighted a gap between the current B-21 program of record (100 aircraft) and STRATCOM's recommendation of at least 1450:53:45, with Wilsbach committing to advocate for a higher number if confirmed1:18:04.

Sen. Rounds cited a Navy estimate that vacating certain spectrum bands would cost the Navy alone about $250 billion and 20 years, and Wilsbach agreed adversaries would benefit from the U.S. abandoning those bands1:15:251:16:46.

Sen. King noted Ukraine reportedly produces 200,000 drones a month at an average cost of $500, arguing the U.S. lacks comparable capacity; Wilsbach agreed and cited 3D printing as a scalable production method1:21:501:22:30.

Sen. Slotkin pressed Wilsbach on how he would respond if ordered to deploy Air Force assets domestically for immigration raids or protest response; he said he verifies legality with counsel before executing any order and would push back on illegal orders1:44:261:44:53.

Sen. Sullivan and Sen. Peters sparred over tanker/fighter basing between Alaska and Michigan, with Sullivan noting he has sought four KC-135s "for almost my entire time in the U.S. Senate" while Michigan received a large F-15/KC-46 package1:47:371:52:12.

Sen. Scott raised that roughly 80% of U.S. generic drug ingredients come from China and India, warning of a supply risk to the military; Wilsbach called the issue outside his expertise1:37:561:39:17.

Sen. Banks cited a prior administration goal to reduce white male Air Force officer applicants from 52% to 43%; Wilsbach affirmed support for Secretary Hegseth's merit-based selection and promotion policy2:14:432:14:49.

Chair Wicker noted a legal requirement to expand Junior ROTC despite a proposed ~$75 million funding cut in the FY26 budget request, and Wilsbach expressed support for the program0:44:020:45:43.

Wilsbach disclosed that current defensive counter-drone systems are inadequate and that clearer rules of engagement and interagency authorities are still being developed following the December 2023 Langley AFB drone incident1:09:201:10:44.

Metadata

Official titleHearings to examine the nomination of General Kenneth S. Wilsbach, USAF, for reappointment to the grade of general and to be Chief of Staff of the Air Force.
CommitteeSenate Armed Services
Chamber / CongressSenate · 119th Congress
Date2025-10-09
TypeMeeting
Witnesses
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Transcript359 caption blocks · 15,609 words · 2:15:44 runtime
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