An oversight hearing to examine the United States Forest Service

Public Lands and Energy MarkupsSenate Agriculture, Nutrition, and Forestry · June 2, 2026 · 119th Congress
The Senate Agriculture, Nutrition, and Forestry Committee held this oversight hearing to examine the U.S. Begins at ▶ 0:20:32
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Title

Forest Service oversight: wildfire readiness, reorganization, and research closures

Purpose

The Senate Agriculture, Nutrition, and Forestry Committee held this oversight hearing to examine the U.S. Forest Service's operations, budget, and preparations for the 2026 wildfire season. U.S. Forest Service Chief Tom Schultz testified on the agency's move to a state-based organizational structure headquartered in Salt Lake City, proposed research facility consolidations, staffing levels, and the administration's budget proposal to shift wildfire operations to the Department of the Interior. Members raised concerns about workforce reductions, red-card firefighter attrition, and threatened research station closures in their states. Begins at▶ 0:20:32

Who spoke

• Chair John Boozman (R-AR)▶ 0:20:32: Opened the hearing noting the Forest Service manages roughly 193 million acres▶ 0:20:57, cited 5 million acres burned last year and 8.9 million in 2024▶ 0:22:28, and praised the bipartisan Fix Our Forests Act (FOFA)▶ 0:22:48; later questioned Schultz on fire-season preparedness▶ 0:35:26, the Salt Lake City reorganization▶ 0:36:45, and FOFA's benefits▶ 0:38:49.

• Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN), Ranking Member▶ 0:23:50: Raised concern that over 1,400 red-card employees left the agency last year▶ 0:25:51, criticized proposed cuts to state forestry programs and research▶ 0:26:33, and questioned the planned closure of the Grand Rapids, Minnesota research facility▶ 0:27:22; later pressed Schultz on why the fire-operations transfer to DOI shouldn't wait for a congressionally directed study▶ 0:43:40.

• Chief Tom Schultz, U.S. Forest Service▶ 0:29:47: Outlined agency priorities of active management and reduced red tape▶ 0:30:15, reported over 11,000 firefighters hired and 450 more red-carded personnel than prior years▶ 0:34:38, and said no final decisions have been made on facility closures, including Grand Rapids▶ 0:43:31; later detailed the state-based reorganization moving decision-making to local forests▶ 0:37:11 and said the DOI wildfire-consolidation study is expected to complete around November▶ 0:44:32.

• Sen. John Hoeven (R-ND)▶ 0:46:40: Pressed Schultz on implementing 2018 prairie dog management plan language limiting occupied habitat to 1.5% of federal land per grazing allotment▶ 0:47:04, and asked for a joint visit to grazing associations once a plan is set▶ 0:48:46.

• Sen. Tina Smith (D-MN)▶ 0:50:00: Noted the Grand Rapids facility's $1-a-year, 50-year university lease with 45 years remaining▶ 0:50:28, and pressed Schultz on completing a full environmental review and public comment process for the Boundary Waters/Twin Metals mineral leases after their congressional reinstatement▶ 0:52:11▶ 0:54:05.

• Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith (R-MS)▶ 0:55:34: Described tornado and winter storm damage to Mississippi's national forests, including Holly Springs and Delta forests▶ 0:56:55, warned of wildfire risk from dead timber, and pressed for a supplemental disaster package▶ 0:57:50; Schultz responded that six salvage timber sales (~66,000 CCF) had already been prepared and 70 miles of roads reopened▶ 0:59:17.

• Sen. Peter Welch (D-VT)▶ 1:00:50: Advocated for keeping open the George Aiken Forestry Sciences Laboratory tied to the University of Vermont, noting its roughly $40,000 annual cost▶ 1:02:12, and argued relocating researchers undermines the quality of local, decades-long research▶ 1:03:27.

• Sen. Roger Marshall (R-KS)▶ 1:05:50: Discussed wildfire risk on the Cimarron National Grassland, including a 280,000-acre fire▶ 1:06:41, and asked what tools Congress could provide to expand active management▶ 1:10:31.

• Sen. Adam Schiff (D-CA)▶ 1:11:17: Submitted an LA Times article from former agriculture secretaries criticizing the reorganization▶ 1:11:43, noted six of eight California R&D sites are slated for closure▶ 1:12:15, and asked whether any attrition analysis has been done, learning about 6,500 employees took the Deferred Resignation Program (DRP)▶ 1:15:32.

• Sen. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI)▶ 1:17:21: Said Michigan lost roughly 100 Forest Service jobs and faces closure of all four of its research stations▶ 1:18:33, noted Schultz has not yet visited Michigan▶ 1:19:25, and pressed him to commit to a ground-level review before finalizing closures▶ 1:20:04.

• Sen. Ben Ray Luján (D-NM)▶ 1:23:10: Challenged Schultz on reports that Canadian company Gamma Resources plans uranium drilling in the Carson National Forest by Q2 2027▶ 1:23:38, stated the Forest Service has not approved any such mine▶ 1:24:15, and voiced strong local and bipartisan opposition, citing water-compact concerns with Texas and Mexico▶ 1:26:07.

Key moments

• Chief Schultz testified the Forest Service treated 3.3 million acres for hazardous fuels in FY2025 and has already treated 2.2 million acres (61% of target) as of May this fiscal year, with prescribed fire up roughly 40% year over year▶ 0:31:12▶ 0:31:40▶ 1:09:10.

• Klobuchar highlighted that more than 1,400 red-card-holding employees left the agency last year amid broader workforce reductions▶ 0:25:51; Schultz countered that fewer than 500 of those had actually fought a fire in the last five years, and the agency now has 450 more red-carded personnel than in recent years▶ 0:45:21.

• Schultz confirmed no closure decisions have been made on any research facility, including Grand Rapids, MN, George Aiken (VT), or California sites, describing a $3 billion deferred-maintenance backlog and $37 million budget reduction driving facility consolidation reviews▶ 0:42:37▶ 1:02:24.

• Sen. Schiff noted six of eight California R&D facilities are listed for closure — more than any other state — despite California accounting for about 20% of national forest acreage burned in the last five years; Schultz said research staffing itself would not be cut▶ 1:12:15▶ 1:13:46.

• Sen. Slotkin said Michigan is set to lose all four of its research stations and about 100 staff; Schultz acknowledged he has never visited Michigan and it was pointed out he had not yet visited before defending the state's "Good Neighbor" partnership record▶ 1:19:25▶ 1:22:22.

• Sen. Smith pressed on the Boundary Waters/Twin Metals mineral lease reinstatement via Congressional Review Act; Schultz said the agency would need to "dust off" a prior environmental impact statement but had no timeline yet for a new review or public comment period▶ 0:53:35▶ 0:54:33.

• Sen. Luján accused Canadian firm Gamma Resources of misleading investors about a 2027 uranium mining start in Carson National Forest; Schultz confirmed the Forest Service has approved only an exploration application, not a mine▶ 1:24:15▶ 1:24:36.

• Schultz said about 6,500 employees took the Deferred Resignation Program agency-wide, and roughly 5,000 of 30,000 total staff would need to physically relocate under the reorganization, with some choosing not to▶ 1:15:59.

• Hyde-Smith detailed May 6–7 tornado damage across Mississippi national forests; Schultz reported six salvage timber sales prepared (~66,000 CCF) priced at nine cents a ton and 70 miles of roads reopened within a month of the storm▶ 0:59:17▶ 0:59:46.

• Schultz said the DOI wildfire-consolidation study, required by Congress, is expected to be completed around November, ahead of any final decision on moving fire operations out of USDA▶ 0:44:32▶ 0:45:02.

Metadata

CommitteeSenate Agriculture, Nutrition, and Forestry
Chamber / CongressSenate · 119th Congress
DateJune 2, 2026
TypeOpen Hearing
Witnesses
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Videosenate-isvp
Transcript216 caption blocks · 10,206 words · 1:29:31 runtime
EventCongress.gov 338501